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Considering I am somewhat new to the "Off-Road", "4X4" segment I was interested to know what sort of upgraded suspensions you guys might have installed. I am also intrested in knowing what sort of kits may be out there and the price ranges of such kits.

Given the fact my front end needs a complete overhaul and it must be repaired for the operation of my 4X4 I am considering just doing it all including a sizable lift. Im not in a real big hurry mind you, late fall maybe next spring. How many inches have people been getting away with?

I have been looking at SkyJacker, Tuff Country, Ready lift and the list goes on and on. I figure if I am lifting the cab, I may as well do it all at once. Once I can decide on an number in terms of inches, I can then hone down the cost. Seems 2-8 inches can be accomplished realatively cheep, but I wonder what others have seen/done.



I am also interested in getting a good sized tire, however I really like the looks of the factory rims and wish to retain them. Right now I am using a 295/75/16 and wonder about stepping up to a 315/75/16.

I been looking at these brands of tires and I am wondering if a 315/75/16 was the biggest size tire they made for a 16 inch rim?

 

Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac
LT315/75R16E2 127Q B
@$230 per tire - ONLY 1 STAR RAITING?
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/findTireDetail.do?c=2&rcz=48187&ar=75&rf=true&rd=16&rc=MIDINT&cs=315&dVeh=dVeh&tc=GDYVL6&yr=2003&pc=31924&cf=false&vid=011354&sw=false

Goodyear Wrangler MT/R Kevlar
LT315/75R16D2 121Q B
@$280 per tire - ONLY 1 STAR RAITING?
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/findTireDetail.do?c=2&rcz=48187&ar=75&rf=true&rd=16&rc=MIDINT&cs=315&dVeh=dVeh&tc=GDYMR1&yr=2003&pc=31889&cf=false&vid=011354&sw=false

BF Goodrich All Terrain T/A KO
LT315/75R-16/D2 121Q
@$231 per tire - GOOD RATING 4.5 STARS?
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/findTireDetail.do?c=2&rcz=48187&ar=75&rf=true&rd=16&rc=MIDINT&cs=315&dVeh=dVeh&tc=MTAVL5&yr=2003&pc=38600&cf=false&vid=011354&sw=false

I do wish to keep it somewhat highway quite so the first two may be out of the question, I have also been looking at the Toyo AT's and possibly them new silent tires that are set up for off road. My over-all goal is to get it higher in the air without the tires looking too small for the truck.

With my discount, and the fact I do my own work, I figure I can hone this out for about 1.5-2.0 grand. Tires alone will be about $600 (I mount and balance my own shit) Suspension parts including ball joints, and a nice lift kit with shocks (Maybe dual) and rear leaf springs seems to be cresing 1200-1400 bucks.

What you say? Or cant the PowerStroke mob think outside of the FoMoCo box?

-- Edited by SELLC on Monday 13th of April 2009 01:59:42 AM

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We are often called upon to "think outside the box".... this applies to lift kits, intakes, chips... you name it....

ALL of this shit comes with "baggage"... unwanted side effects that the aftermarket accessory people will swear up and down that wearranty will be unaffected... PT Barnum once remarked "there's one born every minute...".

Just last week, I had a customer tear a stip off on service advisor because Ford wouldn't warranty a ProComp steering shock.... 'Scuse me?

Lift kits... your truck will be swinging some pretty big rubber, I imagine... When you find it can't stop so quick, it will be those shitty Ford brakes that are bad.... The wheels you will need will have extra negative offset... of course you will soon see that Ford ball joints are "inferior" because they can't handle loads that they WERE NOT designed to handle...

What will be real cute is the newfound driveline vibration - most noticeable on acceleration... that you will experience... once again, we know that it is the truck that is shit.. and not the add on....

I suggest you go with a six inch lift.... this should have you applying for "made man" status with the mafia in short order...

Your view of what we put up with is ummmmmm erroneous.

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I think this is one time that we are in agreement.

I do agree that bigger tires and such aftermarket stuff will cause problems, this is why I was asking what you guys seen out there that was working.

Some aftermarket parts are nothing but crap. I have seen this first hand on MANY diffrent applications. Im not looking for all out huge lift, just something to set the truck apart from the others on the road.

I have pretty much come to terms with the fact that mud tires will require diffrent rims and that will be the best route as one would not want to drive every day with big old mudders. What I do know is that I could use 3 more tires and I would like to go as big as possible while retaining a good ride on the road.

I recently had to engage the 4X4 due to me pulling on soft grass and guess what? It wont come off again. I am now positive that the front hubs are the reason for the lack of dis-engagement. Its likley I will do the front end sometime this month and the tires next month. The lift can wait.

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At one point in time you stated that you had some of the finest documentation available for these trucks....

Section 308-07A in THE finest documentation available has a section marked "Diagnosis And Testing"... subsection "Four Wheel Drive Systems - Electronic Shift".... sub-subsection "Principles And Operation".

You have, in the past, berated me for reading these publications.... I've said it before and I say it again.... this system does not operate the way most people think it does.... If you do not know how it works, you will wind up either fucking yourself over.... fucking your customer over or fucking both of you over...

I've been doing this stuff for nearly 40 years.... used to be all you need to remember was point gap, plug gap and as long as ignition lead was between 4 and 10 degrees BTDC you were good to go...

You can't rely on memory or gut feeling any more... everything is just too complex to try and fix stuff "off the cuff"....

You already have one truck you aren't sure you wanted..... ask your wife if she has any recipes for feeding your family with trucks as payment....

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If yer gonna buy lift kit parts, why not buy BDS?

They're in Mish-Again.

Lifetime warranty.

Just sayin.

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Like I was saying... I havent done much in the ways of 4x4 suspension upgrades or lifts, and I was wondering what all was out there. I will have to do some research on this BDS and check back with you.

-- Edited by SELLC on Sunday 19th of April 2009 03:23:18 AM

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