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Should Stephen Miller be deported too? [2 vote(s)]

Yes, the same standard should be applied equally to everyone.
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Stephen Miller is a product of chain migration, his uncle says

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/stephen-miller-is-a-product-of-%e2%80%9cchain-migration%e2%80%9d-his-uncle-says/ar-BBLSpO0?ocid=ientp

 

 

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Stephen Miller, the senior policy adviser to the president and one of the ideologues pushing the administrations hardline immigration policies, is a product of the so-called chain migration he and President Donald Trump often deride. Thats according to his uncle, who penned an essay in Politico outlining Millers familys immigration story on Monday.

David Glosser, a retired neuropsychologist and Millers uncle on his mothers side, detailed the story of how the family came to live in the United States. Millers great-great-grandfather Wolf-Leib Glosser left the village of Antopol in what is now Belarus amid violent anti-Jewish pogroms there and came to the US. He landed on Ellis Island in 1903 and, over time, was able to bring over the rest of his family.

Through that generation and the next, the family built a chain of supermarkets and discount department stores run by Millers great-grandfather and his grandfather Izzy. The family eventually became American citizens. Its the type of chain migration or family-based migration that immigration hardliners, including Miller, say they hate.

I have watched with dismay and increasing horror as my nephew, who is an educated man and well aware of his heritage, has become the architect of immigration policies that repudiate the very foundation of our familys life in this country, Glosser wrote.

The essay is in part a rejection of the immigration policies his nephew supports and at the same time a plea for him to reconsider:

I shudder at the thought of what would have become of the Glossers had the same policies Stephen so coolly espouses the travel ban, the radical decrease in refugees, the separation of children from their parents, and even talk of limiting citizenship for legal immigrants been in effect when Wolf-Leib made his desperate bid for freedom. The Glossers came to the US just a few years before the fear and prejudice of the America First nativists of the day closed U.S. borders to Jewish refugees. Had Wolf-Leib waited, his family would likely have been murdered by the Nazis along with all but seven of the 2,000 Jews who remained in Antopol. I would encourage Stephen to ask himself if the chanting, torch-bearing Nazis of Charlottesville, whose support his boss seems to court so cavalierly, do not envision a similar fate for him.

Miller, 32, is a fierce proponent of restricting both legal and illegal immigration to the United States.

As Voxs Jane Coaston writes, he was passionate about the subject even in high school and bonded with his former boss, then-Sen. Jeff Sessions, over the matter. Miller designed the initial version of Trumps travel ban and agreed with former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon when in a March 2016 radio interview Bannon complained that the number of immigrants in the country is a massive problem.

In his Politico essay, Glosser wrote that perhaps Miller and Trump have become numb to the resultant human tragedy and blind to the hypocrisy of their policy decisions after spending so much time in the theater of right wing politics. But he also noted that Miller isnt the only family with chain immigration in Trumps orbit: Trumps grandfather is reportedly a German migrant, his mother fled Scotland for the US, and, of course, first lady Melania Trumps parents became citizens just last week.

No matter what opinion is held about immigration, any government that specifically enacts law or policy on that basis [of ethnicity, country of origin, or religion] must be recognized as a threat to all of us. Laws bereft of justice are the gateway to tyranny, Glosser wrote. Today others may be the target, but tomorrow it might just as easily be you or me.



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I'm not sure I understand... Let me get this straight before I go answering any "loaded" polls...

1903? Eh, that's an awful long time ago! Not 1700's settler old, but a pretty long time!

Now, in this time from 1903-2018 you mention they applied for citizenship and were granted citizenship... Then they had a kid who was born in the USA, of parents who followed the law and received citizenship and you want to deport him and his whole family?

I'm not sure you're thinking straight, and neither of us has any inclination of what things were like back at the turn of the 1800's but I am pretty sure it wasn't anything like we are used to today!

Then there is the Nazi Jew trap... Whenever someone starts singing that WWII song I can't help but to feel like I wasn't even born yet! Wait... I wasn't! So I know only what people tell me, not what I have seen. What I do see is similar slaughters that occur in Syria, Africa, Asia, Palestine and other places even to this very day, yet these peoples plights are not rooted in Jewish hegemony so they just get overlooked... being gassed to death, stoned to death, having your head cut off - these things are only an atrocity when it happens to Jewish people... Everyone else is just lamb to the slaughter...

Is that what you're telling me PowerStroker? 



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So because his family came in 1903 it's ok and you don't see any hypocricy at all?

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No, I see the hypocrisy when I take off my right shoe and stand lop sided.

Your suggestion to make policy retroactive all the way back to the 1900's does somewhat give me wood... But you're just teasing us!



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If we make it retroactive far back enough we can all be deported and return the land to the Native Americans like Elizabeth Warren ;)

Or we could just make her the next president as reparations!

 



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Her name is Pocahontas!
Dont ever forget that...

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Our immigration laws and policies are not rooted in racism...

coming into the country without letting the country know is not a RACE...

just because enforcement has to target a particular ethnicity because that ethnicity is known for sneaking in is not RACISM...

we are all one race...the human race...

 

we come from a multitude of ethnic backgrounds...that have ZERO to do with skin color...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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I would add that it's not illegal to ask for asylum, and to have your children stripped from you for so doing is un American.

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PowerStroker wrote:

I would add that it's not illegal to ask for asylum, and to have your children stripped from you for so doing is un American.

 

 

You have some evidence that we as a country simply arrested people who showed up asking for asylum...

 

Because that is also another bullshit narrative created by left wing media outlets...

 

The stoppage of people who just danced around becoming citizens for over a decade is not the same as they showed up at the border requesting asylum. so we arrested them...

 

Your news outlets are LYING TO YOU...

 

 



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Your news outlets are LYING TO YOU...

 

 Which ones, they all seem to be saying similar things. Here are but a few such examples for your consideration.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-news-trump-ice-asylum-20180702-story.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/us/asylum-seekers-mexico-border.html

http://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/390743-people-fleeing-persecution-have-the-right-to-seek-asylum

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/5/17428640/border-families-asylum-illegal

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/seeking-asylum-isnt-a-crime-why-do-trump-and-sessions-act-like-it-is/2018/06/29/dc4cf136-7a7c-11e8-93cc-6d3beccdd7a3_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.1105679f821c

 



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lol, every single one a left wing hack news desk...

I shocked he didnt post up a Madcow video for good measure!



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Anyone who thinks the Associated Press is a "hack news desk" is living in a false reality.

Judge halts ICE arrests of asylum seekers

 
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
JUL 02, 2018 | 8:05 PM

WASHINGTON A federal judge on Monday determined the U.S. government is violating its own rules regarding the treatment of people seeking asylum.

Judge James Boasberg issued a preliminary injunction ordering the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency to stop what opponents called the arbitrary detention of legitimate asylum seekers. The case in question continues, but the injunction opens up yet another legal front in the multi-directional battle being waged by the Trump administration over immigration.

This ruling means the Trump administration cannot use indefinite detention as a weapon to punish and deter asylum seekers, said Michael Tan, senior staff attorney with the American Civil Liberties Unions Immigrants Rights Project.

All immigrants seeking asylum must initially pass a credible fear screening to determine if they face a threat of persecution in their home countries. Those who fail that standard are deported immediately. Previously, those who passed were usually given humanitarian parole while awaiting an immigration hearing, provided they were not considered flight risks or dangers to the public.

Under former President Barack Obama's administration, ICE granted humanitarian parole to more than 90% of asylum seekers.

Lawyers for the ACLU and other groups argued in May that since the start of President Trump's administration, the number of people granted such parole has dropped to almost zero in five key ICE field offices: Detroit; El Paso, Tex.; Los Angeles; Newark and Philadelphia.

Those denied parole have instead been detained. In one case, a former ethics teacher from Haiti has spent more than 18 months in prison.

Judge Boasberg, in a 38-page memorandum opinion, concluded that the numbers here are irrefutable, and ordered a case-by-case review of all asylum seekers awaiting parole. Meanwhile, the lawsuit will continue with a status hearing July 10.

The denial letters that they were issuing were just boilerplate deny, deny, deny, said Hardy Vieux, legal director for Human Rights First. This is the court saying, Ive seen enough to tell (the government) to stop what youre doing and we'll talk later.



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Progress.....

What's going-on with that Mexican Wall I wonder ?...

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I would add that it's not illegal to ask for asylum, and to have your children stripped from you for so doing is un American.

 Asylum and not stripping of children is something we should all be concerned about. Problem is, take the caravan for instance, just one case. The supposedly "children" know nothing of their "supposed parents" IE, not their children, just another scam.

Chain migration now is not what it was in 1903. Immigrants then had skills or at least WANTED to work, they assimilated, worked, learned English. Now? Yeah right. We have homeless Americans, Veterans, people on fixed income get less than an immigrant PLUS they get driver licenses, health care, food stamps, housing. Only a liberal would compare chain migration today to 1903, Apples and oranges.



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Anyone who thinks the Associated Press is a "hack news desk" is living in a false reality.

Then you accept this from AP.?

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Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate

Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.

The allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to implode in four short days have given Obama a clear lead as Republicans struggled to fetch an alternative.

Ryans campaign began to crumble on Monday following the release of embarrassing records from his divorce. In the records, his ex-wife, Boston Public actress Jeri Ryan, said her former husband took her to kinky sex clubs in Paris, New York and New Orleans.

 
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"Its clear to me that a vigorous debate on the issues most likely could not take place if I remain in the race," Ryan, 44, said in a statement. "What would take place, rather, is a brutal, scorched-earth campaign the kind of campaign that has turned off so many voters, the kind of politics I refuse to play."

Although Ryan disputed the allegations, saying he and his wife went to one avant-garde club in Paris and left because they felt uncomfortable, lashed out at the media and said it was "truly outrageous" that the Chicago Tribune got a judge to unseal the records.

The Republican choice will become an instant underdog in the campaign for the seat of retiring Republican Senator Peter Fitzgerald, since Obama held a wide lead even before the scandal broke.

"I feel for him actually," Obama told a Chicago TV station. "What hes gone through over the last three days I think is something you wouldnt wish on anybody."

The Republican state committee must now choose a replacement for Ryan, who had won in the primaries against seven contenders. Its task is complicated by the fact that Obama holds a comfortable lead in the polls and is widely regarded as a rising Democratic star.

The chairwoman of the Illinois Republican Party, Judy Topinka, said at a news conference, after Ryan withdrew, that Republicans would probably take several weeks to settle on a new candidate.

"Obviously, this is a bad week for our party and our state," she said.

As recently as Thursday, spokesmen for the Ryan campaign still insisted that Ryan would remain in the race. Ryan had defended himself saying, "Theres no breaking of any laws. Theres no breaking of any marriage laws. Theres no breaking of the Ten Commandments anywhere."

 

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Fmr Clinton Aide: Hillary Broke Campaign Finance Laws
08/22/2018 Source: AAN

Read more at americanactionnews.com//fmr-clinton-aide-hillary-br

When they couldn't make the Russia allegations stick, anti-Trump prosecutors pivoted to campaign finance laws and in the process revealed their glaring hypocrisy.

Mark Penn, a longtime pollster for Bill and Hillary Clinton, explains:

Why was Michael Cohen investigated? Because the Steele dossier had him making secret trips to meet with Russians that never happened, so his business dealings got a thorough scrubbing and, in the process, he fell into the special counsels Manafort bin the bin reserved for squeezing until the juice comes out. And now we are back to 1998 all over again, with presidents and presidential candidates covering up their alleged marital misdeeds and prosecutors trying to turn legal acts into illegal ones by inventing new crimes.

The plot to get President Trump out of office thickens, as Cohen obviously was his own mini-crime syndicate and decided that his betrayals of Trump meant he would be better served turning on his old boss to cut the best deal with prosecutors he could rather than holding out and getting the full Manafort treatment. That was clear the minute he hired attorney Lanny Davis, who doesnt try cases and did past work for Hillary Clinton. Cohen had recorded his client, trying to entrap him, sold information about Trump (while acting as his lawyer) to corporations for millions of dollars, and didnt pay taxes on millions.

The sweetener for the prosecutors, of course, was getting Cohen to plead guilty to campaign finance violations that were not campaign finance violations. Money paid to people who come out of the woodwork and shake down people under threat of revealing bad sexual stories are not legitimate campaign expenditures. They are personal expenditures. That is true for both candidates we like and candidates we dont. Just imagine if candidates used campaign funds instead of their own money to pay folks like Stormy Daniels to keep quiet about affairs; they would get indicted for misuse of campaign funds for personal purposes and for tax evasion.

There appear to be two payments involved in this unusual plea Cohen pleaded guilty to a campaign finance violation for having coordinated the American Media Inc. payment to Karen McDougal for her story, not for actually making the payment. So he is pleading guilty over a corporate contribution he did not make.

Penn continues, dismantling the liberal narrative by explaining that Cohen's plea deal is an exchange for leniency on tax evasion and other charges all unrelated to the president.

Cohen has apparently cut his losses in an attempt to placate prosecutors desperate for a Trump connection.

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Gee the left can do it all they want, seems about par. But only the right answers to the law.

 

 On Tuesday, Trumps former personal attorney Michael Cohen surrendered himself to the FBI after it was reported he reached a plea deal with prosecutors.

FOX News is reporting Michael Cohens plea deal is to include between 3-5 years jail time.

Michael Cohen appeared in a Manhattan Federal court at 4 PM ET Tuesday according to spokesman for the federal prosecutor in Manhattan, Bloomberg reported.

Cohen is facing bank and tax fraud charges from a taxi cab business he owned with another business partner after the FBI raided his home and office in April and seized personal property including computers and phones.

Michael Cohen admitted he violated campaign finance laws in relation in relation to the Stormy Daniels payment at direction of Trump.



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