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This $9000 bad boy right here is what I consider to be the "Cat's ass" when it comes to diagnostic equipment.



The first fully-integrated handheld diagnostic tool with customer/vehicle records, Scanner, Snap-on Troubleshooter, Component Test Meter, 4-channel lab scope, Fast-TrackŪ reference database, and optional J2534 reprogramming capability.

The genuine Windows XP operating system and internet browser put the world of information at your fingertips. Leverage the combined knowledge of the global technician community via Ask-a-Tech and other online forums.  And ShopKey subscribers can use their repair information system on-screen, side-by-side with the diagnostic applications.

Wireless internet access and an 80GB hard drive takes you to a new level of collaboration and information sharing.

Kind of makes your mouth water a little bit.

http://diagnostics.snapon.com/verus



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But does it have power balance like IDS?

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I dont know yet. For $8000 it better!

Of course with its on-board windows and Wi-Fi, it will more than load your YouPorn website at work!

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I just wish they'd add generic OBD2 capability to the IDS.  There is a menu option for it, but it says "under construction" and has said that for years.

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Anymore you can get an OBDII with built in CANN adaptor for under $100!

The IDS is pretty heavy duty. Considering the damn thing can re-flash computers, its more or less what many consider "Dealer" stuff.

I can not deny the reasonable price of the IDS compated to this Verus, however the Verus seems more or less a powerfull toy, while the IDS seems to a Ford work-horse.

Is Ford the only thing you can work on with an IDS? Its made by Rotunda isnt it?



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It will work with Mazda too.  Range Rover and Jaguar use it but have a completely different software package.  I've heard Honda uses the same VCM with different software as well.

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Its going the way of the PC, that is for sure.

Snap-On however is embracing this by making a tablet style Windows computer, packed with all of their powerful diagnostic tools.

Since the unit runs on Windows XP, that would mean that much of the software that is used by the VERUS must in some way be useable on any Windows XP computer. I wonder if the probes for the 4 chanel lab scope are WiFi or Bluetooth as well, if not, then I would be a little disapointed considering who would want to risk this thing falling into the engine compartment when trying to make a test.

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A can recall the first scan tool I ever bought.... the OTC 2000 was advertised as the last scan tool you would ever need... there was nothing better and you would never need anything better.

In the Ford world... there was the STAR and then the SuperSTAR... and later the NGS and then the WDS and now the IDS...

It ain't gonna stop... bring your chequebook and be quiet... stuff is going to change... honest

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For once we agree.

I used to own an MT2500 back in the day (Snap on red brick), and although it has been expandable for quite some time, its really not all that.

Before the Verus, there was the Modis, before the Modis there was the Vantage, before the Vantage there was the MT2500. See a trend here?

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A trend? Yes... some guys think that before they came along there was nothing...

Some guys think that today is unique... before today, there was nothing special...

Some guys think that nothing ever changed in the automotive industry up until it smacked them in the face.

I started my apprenticeship in about 1968. In a very quick succession, I was treated to the introduction of the alternator to replace the DC generator... electronic ignition to replace breaker point ignition, the EGR valve and the myriad of vacuum hoses, valves and amplifiers that came with them... lean mixtures and all the other attempts at reducing tailpipe emissions...

Stuff was crude back then... we didn't have scan tools... we didn't have DTCs... you had to be sharp...

No... we don't agree... you have tools available but prefer to use inadequate tools (from your spoon fed ideology)... We had only our vacuum gauges and our common sense. We had no feedback systems that could monitor their own performance...

You are young (and I believe I have said that before) and you refuse to learn from history....

I cannot change that....

You do not like me... because I represent the truth you refuse to embrace.



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Although after thinking about it for awhile, the MT2500 has always just been a scanner/troubleshooter. Even to this day, (With updated prom and cartriges of course) it can be used to scan even the newest of vehicles.

So really the MT2500 is a cut above the rest, but the $$$ factor almost makes it a better deal to just buy one of them newer hand helds by Actron for under $100.

It just goes with the grain that when you have a NEW car, you need NEW hardware to scan it. Dont think we will ever be able to get away from that fact.

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PogoPossum wrote:


I started my apprenticeship in about 1968.

1968 huh?

Fricking old timers...



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Say that to your Daddy....

Ohhhhhhh what could be added here... and lost on a wiener.

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I do often times call him an old timer. All in good competitive fun.

I dont know how many times I have saved an old time'n Neanderthal from himself.



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SO DID YOU BUY IT OR ARE YOU TOO BROKE TO GET IT??????????? BIZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Scan tool.... If I'm working on a Ford, I wont settle for anything less than the IDS. Isn't it odd that the best tool for the job is..... errrrmmmmm... the best tool for the job.

We can make believe that any pretender to the throne is the bad boy we want.

For years I WAS an independant... I was always a day late and a dollar short on tools and manuals... and it didn't fucking matter how much money you spent.

Today... I can probably fix a late model Chevy... or Chrysler... or Toyota... or mostly whatever.... Probably...

Now... if you can't poop, you probably ain't going to see the ear, nose and throat doctor.... But you do hope that the 'general practioner' will have the smarts to send you to a specialist... this woiuld be the guy with the knowledge, tools and books that will fix you up just right.



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No Stoma I did not buy the Verus Platform. This system runs $10,000+ and is really overkill, however it is really cool how they have intergrated everything. I dont pay retail for nothing. It is rare that I buy anything like cars or tools brand new. Ill let someone else take the hit.

With regards to Pogo and his thoughts on a specialist, I can honestly say that I have seen some pretty ignorant specialist in my day. Sure when it comes to things like transmission rebuilds I send the unit to the trans guy or "specialist" to be rebuilt. But thats about the only thing we send out besides AC work.

No one can help that Pogo is a day late and a dollar short on his tools, or his information, however the online Mitchells and AllData manuals are better than you would think. If you know more about cars than just one area you can find things easy, if you dont know much about cars in general you wont find what your looking for.

No manual is going to make the cost of parts less money, or pay for the customers repairs. No manual is going to save Pogo from himself.

You should know the Snap-On MT2500 is fully expandable, and for the most part has been around FOREVER! I myself am amazed with the ability to expand the MT2500! Of ALL THE SCAN TOOLS the MT2500 holds its claim of being upgradable, while many of the others FAIL. 

The newer style CAN adapter with the updated cartriges scan newer vehicles, and the new OBD regulations with freeze frame when a trouble code arrises is a SWEET feature! There is SOOOO much you could learn Pogo but you have shut yourself off when it comes to anything without a Ford blue oval. That may be fine for you, but I like fixing them all. 

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Right now Snap-On is offering the Verus platform for $36 a week for 260 weeks!

What is unclear is if the Verus will offer Snap-On SHOP KEY access free of charge.

What is Snap-On Shop Key? It's basiclly Mitchells on demand. When I say that I dont mean its like Mitchells.... IT IS MITCHELLS. The SHOP KEY software is identical to that of the Mitchells on demand that we use here.

Given the fact that FULL ACCESS to Mitchells can cost upwards of $140 per month, if the Verus Platform offers an all inclusive access to this system without any additional monthly cost it would almost be like they are giving you the Verus for free!

I am trying to find out if that is the case, but if so, the Verus would almost seem worth the 10K investment.

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