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Target and its corporate retail cousin Best Buy are continuing to suffer fallout from donations to a Minnesota group that backed a gay-marriage opponent for governor. On top of organized consumer boycotts and public pressure campaigns, some of the retail giant's investors are up in arms, according to the Associated Press.

The anti-Target effort among consumer activists, meanwhile, continues to draw a strong online following, with petitions and viral videos even though one cable network has rejected a national ad buy from liberal group MoveOn.org urging a Target boycott. MoveOn's political action committee has, however, placed a video of an impromptu musical protest at one Target store on YouTube, where it has already garnered more than half a million views.

These high-profile pushbacks have caught the attention of a trio of institutional shareholders in Target and Best Buy Walden Asset Management, Trillium Asset Management Corp., and Calvert Asset Management Co. who each filed resolutions voicing concern.

"A good corporate political contribution policy should prevent the kind of debacle Target and Best Buy walked into," Trillium vice president Shelley Alpern told the AP. "We expect companies to evaluate candidates based upon the range of their positions not simply one area and assess whether they are in alignment with their core values. But these companies' policies are clearly lacking that."

The three shareholders together control less than 1 percent of outstanding shares for Target and Best Buy. But as the controversy continues to build, their recommendations will probably keep the pressure on Target executives to renounce the donations. Target is the principal focus of the protests because the store is a better-known retail brand and because it has long adopted an image of social concern, with programs supporting local schools and environmental initiatives, and domestic-partner benefits for store employees. By developing a more hip and urban following, the Minnesota-based chain has ironically left itself more open to campaigns like the present one, which accuses Target of corporate hypocrisy.

MoveOn also produced a national ad promoting the Target boycott but officials with the cable network MSNBC turned the spot down, claiming that it violated a network policy banning ads that target individual businesses. As the AP reports, MSNBC would likely face its own backlash from advertisers if it appeared to side with MoveOn in this fight even though the network has a stable of prime-time liberal commentators who support gay-marriage rights.



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I often wonder how many GAY people have kids going back to school?

The 500,000 views are most likely from homo's around the globe who communicate to each other in a giant chain e-mail. It also serves as a stark reminder that the current trend of having everyone "pro-cause" watch a video 10-100 times in an effort to boost it's view/hit count makes for a poor determination of what is actually "Hot", and my friends homosexuality is NOT!

1% of the shareholders? PA-LEESE! School starts in just a few short weeks up here in Michigan, Ill be sure to be spending my money at Target, much like I do every year at Christmas time. Wonder how many Gay people have kids to buy for at Christmas? Wonder how many homo's even celebrate Christmas?

If anything it's just more advertisement for Target. These companies are WELL AWARE that people have been and will contenue to cut back the more and more this poor administration runs the country into the ground. 

Homo's do not run this country. They will die often times with no off-spring to carry on their cause. To this I say GOOD! They can all go fuck themselves... eh... Wait a minute, they already do! BWAHAHAHAHA!

POWERSTROKER! THIS IS THREAD IS SOOOOOO GAY

Homo's are too busy shopping at the Bannana to visit Target anyway. It's no loss of business to them. Best Buy? Well we all know homo's buy Apple or Dell. No skin off their hide. This information only makes me want to start shopping more at Target.

 



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Might I add how UGLY them people are in that Target Video? NOW WONDER THEY ARE GAY!

Only ONE WORD comes to mind when watching that movie "GAY"!

-- Edited by SELLC on Sunday 22nd of August 2010 01:17:29 AM

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If homosexuals don't reproduce, how come they have been thriving since the beginning of mankind?

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You can't be serious with this ignorance.

Are you suggesting that two people of the same sex can reproduce?

Now I know your nuts!

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I'm not saying they reproduce... with each other anyway. I'm just saying they haven't exactly died off now have they?

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Yes because we have folks like you to thank for that.

Keep encouraging this kind of behavior.



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I had a chance to view the video on the big screen now the kiddies are asleep.

Rather funny that these homo's think Target is trying to buy an election when really people have been doing it since the dawn of time.

What I also found VERY FUNNY was the fact that NO-ONE dropped what they were buying. NO ONE EXITED THE BUILDING except a fat woman with a video camera, who turned around and walked back into the store.

These homo's really did nothing but make themselves look like idiots. Homo's are very good at that anyway, however I am sure most of mainstream America want's the current administration out of there.. Last poll says that 70% says congress needs to go.

So what do we have here other than some homo's that do not realize that "Ain't" is not a word?  Target IS people, and that is why IS. The "PEOPLE" who own Target, their board members and the folks who allowed this money to be donated have spoken. Tuff luck if the homo's don't like it.



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So if a major car companies want to pay millions of dollars to politicians so they can have legislation passed that prevents little hack shops like you from being able to compete, you'll defend their right to do so right?  After all, corporations are people, and big money equals free speech according to Republicans.

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A rift over repairs

Mechanics, carmakers battle over diagnostics

By Megan Woolhouse
Globe Staff / January 9, 2010
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Allston auto mechanic Jerome Brasseur hates turning away business, but he doesnt always have a choice.

Brasseur cannot make simple fixes on some cars because he doesnt have the diagnostic codes he needs. He has to send owners of certain BMW and Mercedes models to manufacturers dealerships for something as basic as a transmission fluid change because automakers consider such information proprietary and are reluctant to divulge it to independent repair companies.

They make it [so] that only the dealership can change the transmission fluid, said Brasseur, whose JCB Auto shop is not affiliated with an automaker. You kind of know after a while what jobs to walk away from, where you say to the customer, Yeah, sorry, Im not going to be able to help you.

That presents consumers with a dilemma: They can take their car to a shop that might not be able to make a fix, or bring it to a dealership and risk spending more money.

Repairing autos is an increasingly complex and computerized job, requiring specialized diagnostic tools that help a mechanic obtain repair information and codes from a vehicles on-board computer system. Shutting off the check engine light on some cars, for example, requires a mechanic to punch in a special six-digit code created by the manufacturer.

A coalition of Massachusetts businesses is lobbying for a bill called the Right to Repair Act that would guarantee independent mechanics and shop owners access to the diagnostic data dealerships get. The bill is under review by the Legislatures Joint Committee on Consumer Protection and Professional Licensure, and more than 40 legislators have expressed support for it.

Auto manufacturers are lobbying against the measure, saying it could force them to reveal trade secrets, such as a vehicles electronic control module. The module is essentially a cars brain, controlling everything from air bags to the diagnostic system.

Plummeting car sales have heightened dealership opposition to the bill. Ami Gadhia, policy analyst for Consumers Union, publisher of Consumer Reports magazine, said thats because dealerships now rely on revenue from repairs, not sales, to turn a profit. Gadhia said Consumers Union supports the bill in principle because it promotes competition between dealerships and independent shops.

The more competition, the better the choice for consumers and, obviously, the better the pricing, Gadhia said.

Charles Territo, spokesman for the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, a national group of 11 companies, said after-market parts manufacturers, such as AutoZone or Napa, want information about electronic control modules and other parts so they can reverse-engineer them and, ultimately, manufacture and sell the same gear at a discount.

That is highly guarded trade proprietary information and manufacturers spend billions and billions of dollars researching and developing it to make their products unique, Territo said. They want to get all that for free.



-- Edited by PowerStroker on Sunday 22nd of August 2010 01:57:59 PM

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PowerStroker, this has been a fact of life since the mid 1980's!

Every year new designs come out, and until someone with a pair breaks the code, it's pretty much as what is said above. The fact that many cars have 4-5 year warranties will no doubt be going to the dealer because of the fact most repairs will be "Free" to the customer. At the dealer you have your educated techs who have been instructed how to make repairs, however many times when it comes to internal repairs, the faulty part will be "Replaced" by the dealer tech, rather than re-built. 

It is the after warranty mechanics who have the real smarts, digging deeper than a classroom lesson. These people are the ones who really have some smarts, after all they must break the code of "Billions and Billions" of dollars worth of research that were spent keeping it secret. 

As I mentioned, these issues have been a fact of life for the aftermarket since the 80's. Hell they may have been an issue since the 60's and 70's but I wouldnt know because I wasnt working as a mechanic back then. Pogo may be better to tell us what life repairing cars back then was like, however I am sure he will admit that even back then new ideas were being introduced, thus the need for new tools and such, just like today.

Ever tried to tune 3 Stromburg side draft carbs? Back then the meter needed to do so was considered pretty high tech. Some of the mechanical systems that are now replaced with electronics would make you new generation of mechanics cry.

No, the real reason you are upset PowerStroker is because the masses are fed up with your parties actions. Corporations are pissed also. It is no diffrent than a major recording label pushing an artist, or advertising a product on TV. No one is FORCING you to buy the product, or listen to the song. That determination is left up to the end user, much like the choice of who to vote for is left up to the voter. No one is BUYING the election, if the people were happy with Obama and the Democrats performance NO AMOUNT OF MONEY WOULD BE ABLE TO STOP THEM. As it stands, the last time around Obama had a good campaign and said all the right things, people bought his bullshit. Now that people are starting to realize he is full of shit they want him and his Democratic party OUT. While I think Obama has done some good for the country, his arrogance and lack of follow thru on several other issues is killing his chances for re-election. Had he acted this way when he was on the campaign trail, he may not have been elected.

My 2 cents.  


-- Edited by SELLC on Sunday 22nd of August 2010 07:15:47 PM

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PowerStroker wrote:

Repairing autos is an increasingly complex and computerized job, requiring specialized diagnostic tools that help a mechanic obtain repair information and codes from a vehicles on-board computer system. Shutting off the check engine light on some cars, for example, requires a mechanic to punch in a special six-digit code created by the manufacturer.

A coalition of Massachusetts businesses is lobbying for a bill called the Right to Repair Act that would guarantee independent mechanics and shop owners access to the diagnostic data dealerships get. The bill is under review by the Legislatures Joint Committee on Consumer Protection and Professional Licensure, and more than 40 legislators have expressed support for it.

Auto manufacturers are lobbying against the measure, saying it could force them to reveal trade secrets, such as a vehicles electronic control module. The module is essentially a cars brain, controlling everything from air bags to the diagnostic system.


I am pretty sure the objective of passing the OBD-II laws were to deal with this problem, however as I have said before in the PowerStroke forum a lot of manufatures are finding ways to circumvent these regulations. I'd be willing to bet that some stiff fines would straighten that problem right out.

Perhaps this is my calling? Last time I was a labor ops director for GM I would get all kinds of threats. As I walked up and down the service bays mechanics would give me dirty looks and flick their knifes as if to imply "Come over here and ill stab ya!". It was funny as hell, but I was just too young to have fun with it.

 



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Anyone notice the catchy new "Blue Grass" commercials that Target has?

I thought you Democrat's liked the color blue!?

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Check out who else shops at Target!

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20113611-503544.html

Maybe she's getting tired of them Democrats holding her back!?



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I've been going back to Target too since Daton ended up winning his election.

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