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Would you vote for Herman Cain? [6 vote(s)]

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Pizza man for 2012 President of the United States?


This guy Cain...

Does anyone take this man seriously?

Just what Americans need... Another empty suit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain

I am getting behind Romney 100% from now on. If only because he has a long history of experience in politics, along with vast experence in health care law. Not only that his family has roots here in Michigan.

 



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Looks like Cain is trying to play the race card!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44747781/ns/politics-decision_2012/

Doesnt he know the race card is maxed out? It's been that way every since Americans showed the world anyone could become the President of the United States, white, black or otherwise.

Even people with little to no experience can become President of the United States! Which is why we have people like Cain running their mouth.

I think Cain needs to stick with delivering Pizza's. His 5 minutes is about over.

People of ALL races have more problems going on right now then what someone painted on a rock back in the 80's. Even still if that rock was on private property, then it's no one else's business regardless what it read. PERIOD!



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What about Rick Perry??? Compared to Perry, Romney looks like a Dem.

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Like I said before.. It's a toss up between Perry and Romney.

Some weeks I am impressed with Perry and other weeks Romney shines.

When Cain first won the Florida straw poll I actually thought to myself "We might have ourselves a winner here!"

But then he showed his hand by playing the race card. Too bad...



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Thought some might find interesting the amount of racist named land that still exist. Only with these it's not just scribbled on a rock that was painted over! These names are ON THE BOOKS!

For Example

South Dakotas Squaw Humper Dam, Squaw Humper Table, and Little Squaw-Humper Creek

NegroHead Point - The UP

Jew Point - Florida

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2011/10/rick_perry_s_hunting_camp_how_many_places_have_racial_slurs_in_t.html?GT1=38001

I think the fact that cane made such a big deal out of something like a past name that had been changed just shows he's playing the political race card. Offencive as the word "nigger" is, I hear all kinds of different races calling each other by that name. Hell once some 14 years ago I was in the parts store waiting on a part when a friend called and the first thing out of his mouth was "Whats up nigger!". Well it just happened to be a black dude standing next to me and my volume was turned all the way up. Everyone was cracking up about it including the black dude.

It's a touchy subject I guess, but I have actually had black customers come right out and say to me "I'm a nigger", "I'll get donkey up in here". I know in the back of his mind he was thinking something along the lines of "honkey", "cracker" or "casper". All told I think the guy was just trying to break the ice, as he has been a good paying customer.

Point I am making here is the past is the past. There is no slavery outside of minimum wage, which is an equal oppertunity employer. To try and spark up political points by playing the race card, BY ANY RACE, is just pitting people agenst each other. Hell, Cain even called Obama a racist! LOL!

I am stocking up on popcorn for next years election. It's like the Superbowl, but it only happens once every 4 years!



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Any excuse to not vote for a black guy will do, even if he's a Republican huh?

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Hey, I got behind Steele!

I found it "cute" that Cain called Obama a racist.

I may vote pure party line this election cycle, so if Cain takes the primarys you will have people like me to thank for it.

By the way, thanks for Obama.... Jackass!



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Your photo is missing a few ands,

Lowered the nations credit rating

Spent more money than any other president

Waged a faceless war where as the enemy is still at large

Is that Donut box holding a half trillion dollars in it? Was it taken during his visit to Solyndra?

Why is it union workers and democrats seem to think everyone should feel lucky they showed up for work!? Oh yeah that's right, because we are! Otherwise they would be sitting back collecting on the public dole for nothing. But sometimes it actually cost LESS in the long run to let these people live off the teat, they cost us much more when actually permitted to work.



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Also....to add to the list.....

Getting a Nobel Prize for being the most ineffective President in the history of the United States, though some say it was for the color of his skin

Putting all legislation on the Internet for 5 days before it comes to a vote

Pulling out of Iraq with no clear victory over insurgent forces.

Touting a green energy company as exemplary, which fails a year later (not to mention loaning over half a billion taxpayer dollars to them using Chicago crony politics)

Using the Gulf oil spill to promote green energy, rather than cleaning it up.

Giving a collection of DVDs to the British Prime Minister

Denying the notion of American Exceptionalism

Promising to close Gitmo, and failing to do so

Securing the Olympics for Chicago in 2016

Naming numerous Communists/Socialists/Progressives to the various Czar positions and then watching them scurry for cover when the media begins to call them out, forcing them to resign.

Losing the 2010 mid-term elections, which he himself called "a shellacking"

Losing near shoe-in races for NJ and VA, and Teddy Kennedy's Senate seat in Massachusetts.

Bowing to just about every foreign leader he meets.

Proposing amnesty for illegal aliens to increase the population of voters for Democrat elections





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SELLC wrote:

Your photo is missing a few ands,

Lowered the nations credit rating

You can thank the Republican House of Reps and S&P for that one.

Spent more money than any other president

Except Reagan... Oh wait, that's right, it's Congress that does all the spending - FAIL

Waged a faceless war where as the enemy is still at large

I know exactly where he is, at the bottom of the ocean in the fish poo cycle.

 



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Also....to add to the list.....

Getting a Nobel Prize for being the most ineffective President in the history of the United States,

If he's so ineffective, then why do you hate him so much?

though some say it was for the color of his skin

Oh, I guess you answered my question for me.

Putting all legislation on the Internet for 5 days before it comes to a vote

You dislike transparency???

Pulling out of Iraq with no clear victory over insurgent forces.

The victory of knowing there aren't any weapons of mass destruction there.  Now that that is well understood, why would you continue to occupy that country at enormous expense, especially when most of the insurgency of which you speak is the result of our occupation?

Touting a green energy company as exemplary, which fails a year later (not to mention loaning over half a billion taxpayer dollars to them using Chicago crony politics)

All the more reason to change our flawed trade policies that put America at a competitive disadvantage... Something the Dems have wanted to do for years, but the Republicans keep filibustering.


Using the Gulf oil spill to promote green energy, rather than cleaning it up.

Nothing worse than holding corporations accountable for their actions and learning from their mistakes eh?

Giving a collection of DVDs to the British Prime Minister

Don't care

Denying the notion of American Exceptionalism

When exactly has he done that?  Obama himself said that only in America is his story even possible.

Promising to close Gitmo, and failing to do so

Yeah that sucks.

Securing the Olympics for Chicago in 2016

I seem to recall Republicans cheering when that effort failed, as if defeating Obama is more important than doing something good for America.

Naming numerous Communists/Socialists/Progressives to the various Czar positions and then watching them scurry for cover when the media begins to call them out, forcing them to resign.

I'm a socialist progressive.  You're a socialist conservative... big deal.

Losing the 2010 mid-term elections, which he himself called "a shellacking"

Obama wasn't on the ballot in 2010

Losing near shoe-in races for NJ and VA, and Teddy Kennedy's Senate seat in Massachusetts.

Yeah that sucks, but I find it hard to blame Obama for it.

Bowing to just about every foreign leader he meets.

Respect is a beautiful thing.

Proposing amnesty for illegal aliens to increase the population of voters for Democrat elections

I have yet to see bill from the House of Representitaves that funds the cost of rounding up and deporting 20 million people.  May as well give them a path to citizenship and make them taxpayers.




 



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Y'all just keep plugging and cheering for that failed president now. He's starting to make Jimmy Carter look like a smashing success.

Just look at the current accolades in the press for our "Hope and Change" president", just over the past 2 days:

Obama the loner
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/obama-the-loner/2011/10/10/gIQAF2u8ZL_blog.html


Obama, the loner president
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obama-the-loner-president/2011/10/03/gIQAHFcSTL_story.html


51% Don't Want Second Term For President Obama
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/587521/201110100805/51-Dont-Want-Second-Term-For-President-Obama.htm


Aimless Obama walks alone
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/aimless_obama_walks_alone_OUgoMTkORRJioLl7B6ZYmN


Democrats wary of their unpopular president
http://news.yahoo.com/democrats-wary-unpopular-president-050803210.html


SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/spin-meter-obama-disconnects-1197664.html



THE WHEELS ARE COMING OFF THE BUS, POWERCHOKER !! Wake up and smell the coffee - you are endorsing a flawed president who is presiding over a FAILED PRESIDENCY.




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Gerry...

PowerStroker is a Teamsters Union member. There is no point in arguing with him. He is as close to a socialist/communist dictatorship than folks like you and I will ever know.

He is brainwashed and incapable of deciding anything outside of his day to day job for himself. He does not have the right to think for himself. The Union tells him to jump and he says how high. He does this so he can get on web forums and brag about his job security. Such job security does he have that PowerStroker claims to be in a position to jump up on his managers desk, whip out his junk and pee in their Cheerios, and that's not all, PowerStroker claims the manager would ask for him to do it again the next day.

That's Union life for you Gerry. PowerStroker swallows.



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It's funny. I have a high school friend who is a United Airlines engine mechanic in San Francisco. He too is a Teamsters Union member and echoes almost the same identical rhetoric that PowerChoker espouses. And you are correct, the union bosses garnish their paychecks and then tell them what to think and when to think it, who to vote for, and so forth.

And these incompetent union idiots never get fired ! Even for gross incompetence on the job!! It's the same with cascade. All of these people on the public/union teat with guaranteed jobs that are based on seniority, not actual competence. It's a regulated system that mirrors communism. Not to mention that unions are in bed with undesirables like democratic politicians, the Mob, the list goes on.

I have told my friend many times over beers that if I was ever elected president or into a position of governmental authority, the first thing I would do would be to bust every union I could find. I would throw unions on the scrap-heap of history because they hold America back. Why does one need a union when in a "real" job all you have to do is work hard and you can advance just fine? If you screw up, you get fired and move on. It's as simple as that. The only people who join unions are those who know they can't handle the "real" world and/or are too lazy to get a real education so they can get a REAL job that makes REAL money, or they are too scared to start their own business and work for themselves as an entrepreneur.

I'm all for busting unions and look how America has gotten better over the past 30-40 years as union influence has declined.

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What do you do for a living Gerry? Do you think your standard of living would be as good as it currently is without Unions?

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IIRC, Gerry has said he works for Meg Whitman, at her new company of employment. So with that information you should be able to figure it out, if not your not paying close attention to the news. Being a Union Democrat, I am willing to bet the latter.

Of course I could be wrong.



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Didn't she take over HP recently? I thought I had heard that. So does Gerry get her coffee or massage her feet?

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I think you misunderstand... I didn't say he worked for Meg Whitman, I said he worked for a company that she was recently hired to run. But your guess would be correct.

Although I am sure it would pay pretty well to rub her feet and bring her coffee, I think Gerry is a happily married man.

I don't know what he does there, but I think that's what was said, IIRC.

For all we know Gerry could be her husband.

Here is a photo of Bill Cobb

And here is a last known photo of Gerry

Any resemblance? Maybe Gerry is undercover? Maybe he is from planet Mars. One thing is for sure, I fetch coffee and rub feet for a special woman.

To date we don't have much information on the illustrious PowerStroker. Typical Democrat empty suit sealing his files.



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Check this out -- a comparison of Obama's rally in Pittsburgh from October 27, 2008 vs. his latest rally in Pittsburgh October 11, 2011:

 

 

Tells you everything you need to know. Obama is doomed.



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Obama wanted to apologize to Japan for using nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki -- to end a war that Japan started and to save more than 1,000,000 expected US casualties for the US invasion of the Japanese islands.

The Apologizer-in-Chief....

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/587698/201110111829/Apologies-Not-Accepted.htm


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Investors.com eh?

Can't say I've heard it. Is that a respected and un-biased news outlet, or an online resource for white people who sit by the pool and wait for their dividend checks?

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You mean to tell me you've never heard of the national business newspaper called Investor's Business Daily? It's a major daily publication with a circulation of nearly a quarter of a million.

I guess you union fucks don't get out much.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investors_Business_Daily

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Almost a quarter of a million eh? I guess I'm one of the over 300 million in this country who never heard of it. Thanks though.

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Well, you don't really need to actually READ business or news papers like the IBD or the Wall Street Journal, or mags like Business Week. I mean, when you have your corrupt union bosses telling you what to think and how high and far to jump, who needs to read anything anyway?

Check out this story, about the union bosses making a $500K annual pension. And you liberals think all the fat-cats are on Wall Street & Republican, eh?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44872639/ns/us_news-life/#.TpYp73HvkUU

You're getting fleeced and you don't even know it !! Har har har ! You just keep those union blinders on, my friend. Vote for Obummer and see how he helps you. Meanwhile your Teamster bosses are raiding your hard-earned wages to fatten up their own pockets.

I mean, c'mon SELLC ... am I saying anything that's untrue here?



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Investors.com eh?

Can't say I've heard it. Is that a respected and un-biased news outlet, or an online resource for white people who sit by the pool and wait for their dividend checks?


 All this from a guy who thinks MSDNC is a credible news desk.



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SELLC ... notice how PowerChoker didn't have anything to say about Obumbler's Pittsburgh rally when presented with photographic evidence of it....






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gerryvz wrote:

I mean, c'mon SELLC ... am I saying anything that's untrue here?


 I am self employed Gerry... So you are preaching to your choir here.

If a customer don't like my work, or attitude, I get fired. Plain and simple. I cant imagine a force powerful enough to make a customer do business with me outside of a good ole fashioned Government style regulated monopoly. Guess all the monopolies need a way to keep their workers in line.... Sounds like that's where a union comes into play.

I have been told stories by union employees and how they get told how to vote and what to think. They seem content driving their new vehicles, neck high in debt, living paycheck to paycheck. They got to do what they got to do I guess.

I can say that the union has taken good care of Grandma and Grandpa, but I cant say that I see the same thing when I get old. Thus I am trying to build something that can carry me thru the golden years. If I am lucky Ill be able to work till the day I die, much like Apples Steve Jobs. A lot of people see retirement as waiting to die, I hope to keep active enough to not have to dwell on that certainty.



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Remember the good old days when newspapers not only had a business section, but also had a labor section?

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Newspapers never had a labor section because blue-collar workers were generally uneducated Neanderthals and incapable of actually reading said newspaper, except the funny pages.

Once employers started realizing this and figuring out they could make more money by outsourcing jobs overseas and/or to chimpanzees who could do the job for less money and whining than union employees, the unions started crumbling, which they are continuing to do to this day. Meanwhile Obummer is using class warfare and calling out how the middle class is disappearing to keep the union members in his camp.

And the union bosses, with their $500K annual pensions and job perks, are laughing all the way to the bank. They're playing their union members for suckers and also playing Obumbler and the democrats for the suckers that they are.

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The next time your Mercedes breaks down, and you, being overqualified to understand how to figure out the problem - end up bringing it to the dealer, make sure you personally speak to the mechanic and tell him that he is an un-educated Neanderthal incapable of even reading a news paper.

For that matter, make sure you tell that to the police officer who protects your neighborhood.  Tell it to the electrician who wires your house.  Tell it to the nurse who immunizes you (before he or she sticks you with the needle).  Tell it to the soldier who died so that you may live the American dream.  Tell it to the plumber who fixes your leaky pipes.  Tell it to the carpenter who repairs your storm damage.  Tell it to the fireman who rescues your family from a fire.  Tell it to the construction worker repairing the socialized roads and bridges you drive on every day.

I've known many types of people in my travels.  One thing I'm sure of, is nobody who ever actually had to pull himself up by his bootstraps and became successful, looks down with such hostility at blue collar workers.  So I have to ask...  Did you have to pay your parents back for helping finance your college education, or was that just another in a long line of gifts?

Now I actually have a degree, so if I  didn't enjoy my trade as much as I do, and ever desired a management position, it would be a pretty easy thing for me to attain.  But I wonder if Rex knows that you're only nice to him because you view him as a useful idiot who supports your politicians?  Does Rex know, that were it not for that fact, you wouldn't give him the time of day?  Does he know you view him as just a lowly high school educated backyard (blue collar) mechanic?

Last question:

What exactly do you do for HP that makes you so special and hard to replace with cheap foreign labor?

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I thought everything in Chicago was corrupt anyway?

I was never one to say there shouldn't be a union, I only asked the question - "isn't it a conflict of interest to belong to a labor union that has ownership in said company you working for"? PowerStroker said no.

I never said education was a bad thing. My only question was "Isn't school after graduation a little over priced"? More so for people that don't know what they want to do for a living, but even still if you are going to school for a trade it's really training, not school. I see a serious issue with Americans getting into serious debt over school. Some don't come out any wiser than they went in, not to mention many of these college professors are no better than the people they judge each semester. If you go for that sort of thing I don't know what to tell ya.

Is a wearing a white collar monkey suit at Hp better than being a blue collar grease monkey? I couldn't tell you... I am self employed.

Try running your own business... It's an eye opener. A slow week takes on a whole new meaning. It's not for everyone, it's a lot of STRESS and RISK. I myself eat stress and risk in the morning for breakfast. For lunch you can expect a nice serving of REALITY, then for dinner you get served up the "Hard Work aka Meat and Potatoes". If you did everything right you might end up with some desert, which can be called profit.  The buck stops here when your a business owner.

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Rex, does it bother you that Gerry thinks the only reason you'd ever get the newspaper is for the funnies and used car classifieds?

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Not one bit... In fact it's funny you mention it. The past few weeks the Detroit News has been calling wanting me to get a subscription to the Detroit News. The salesman mentioned things like coupons, exclusive online access to their articles and a sports section.

I informed the guy I couldnt see paying for the paper when the only thing I would have time to read is the Sunday morning comics. Go figure.

Classified Ads have gone the way of the dinosaur. Sure there are still "some" listings, but much like how the USPS is losing business because of the Internet, so are the newspaper companies.

I have worked for companies other than my own both in a blue colar mechanic possition, and also in a white collar possition. In either case it was a great life when single, put in my hours, collect my pay, walk out the door at closing and not give the job a second thought until I was done doing whatever it is I wanted. Hook up with the ladies and life on the town being a big shot, thinking about only ME. Boy them were the days.

Now it's different. Now I have to build and train. Now it has to mean something or my kids will get sucked into a mortgage sized student loan payment. College is a lot of different things, but it's not a "guarantee".

The best way for me to explain it is this... Awhile back I seriously considered going to school for Law. I enjoyed reading law, litigating and much of the work that goes along with being an attorney. I was turned off being a lawyer when I realized that the rule of LAW has NOTHING to do with what they teach. The interpretation of law is different from person to person. You could have a rock solid case with the law on your side and still lose. It's all legal like because again it's the "interpretation" that matters. What you might consider dark blue may look more Navy blue to others.

So hey... Why would I be bothered by what Gerry "thinks", if that were the case shouldnt I be worried about what YOU think? As it stands Gerry can think what he wants, you can think whatever you like and you know I have no problems telling people what I think. 



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Well it didn't take long for Cain's "Pizza Man" business model to shine thru!

Recently Cain has suggested a "Pizza" like special for taxes he calls "9-9-9". Yep just like the Pizza joints that offer simmilar kinds of deals in the same wrapper, we now have a man running for President that wants to turn our nation into a Pizzaria.

http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/13/8304334-cains-9-9-9-tax-plan-is-simple-most-will-simply-pay-more

The 3 for $5 deal is a limited-time offer made available nationwide at participating Pizza Hut locations starting Nov. 20. Customers must ask for the 3 for $5 deal when ordering and buy at least three medium one-topping Hand-Tossed Style Pizzas. Prices, participation, delivery charges and areas may vary.
 
The promotion mirrors Domino's Pizza's successful "555" medium-pizza promotion run throughout 2005.
 
 


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Well he's leading in the latest poll, even ahead of Romney.

I'm kind of surprised Gerry hasn't reacted to me calling him out on his anti blue collar bigotry.

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I am starting to understand how Democrats felt when the party made Obama their Primary.

I just have not seen much from Cain that would indicate he is fit to be President. I can only assume he is a diversion. If Cain takes the Republican primary the could for once be a possible chance for an independent. With the black vote split, and the current state of the nation it's a high possibility that an Independent could have a chance.

If faced with a ballot that contains "Cain" or "Obama", I would be tempted to give an independent a shot. Going to be a very interesting election cycle.



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Don't worry about it, there's no way Republicans would actually nominate a black dude, even if he was qualified.

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Your racist baiting aside, are you saying Cain is qualified?

I certianly dont feel Owebama was qualified when he ran for President. I even have a video where he admits he's not qualified himself. I still dont think he is qualified, although I am sure with the past 3 years of "on the job" training he's a bit more seasoned than Cain.

If there were no good independents on the ballot, and it came down to Cain vs. Obama, I hate to say it, but I'd take Obama. Only because he NOW has more experience in the job than Cain. Then again I have not spent much time listening to Cain outside of what I read and that video above. I have to disagree with him in that video where he claims a problem is a problem is a problem. Not all problems are equal. About the ONLY thing Cain has going for him right now is the fact he is running as a Republican.

I feel Bush Jr. had experience when he first ran because of his father being the President. Naturally Bush Jr. would have been exposed to a lot more things than many outsiders. Same goes for Obama's immediate family, Michelle probably has a better understanding of how things work in Washington than Cain, although I think his kids are a little too young to be absorbing what really goes on in the White House, yet I feel even Obamas kids might have more of an idea about how things work in DC than Cain! LOL Hillary Clinton would be another person who has been close enough to the action to have what I consider Presidential experience, and probably she has more than all of the people I have mentioned above put together.

Bottom line, the fact that Cain was in charge of a Pizza joint named "Godfathers Pizza" of all things does not necessarily make me think he is fit for the job. His past employment with the Federal Reserve is not what many Americans see as a "feather in his hat", more like a sign he could be corrupt.



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I've made myself clear -- all unions ought to be busted and abolished, and union members should either be put into forced labor camps or given the opportunity to better their education so they can get jobs that actually add value to the economy (intellectual capital) rather than doing repetitive factory jobs that I could train a chimpanzee to do. It's not blue collar workers per se (after all I'd own my own Mercedes repair shop if I could ... and I came very very close to doing so about 5 years ago) it's about union members who get paid huge money for doing jobs that should be outsourced overseas or given to monkeys.

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Your racist baiting aside, are you saying Cain is qualified?

Damn, you usually can't resist the bait.

I certianly dont feel Owebama was qualified when he ran for President. I even have a video where he admits he's not qualified himself. I still dont think he is qualified, although I am sure with the past 3 years of "on the job" training he's a bit more seasoned than Cain.

There are people who are qualified to take the job, but rare is the person who can actually do it well.  That said, I think a professor of Constitutional law and US Senator is better prepared for it than the CEO of a mafia themed pizza chain.

If there were no good independents on the ballot, and it came down to Cain vs. Obama, I hate to say it, but I'd take Obama. Only because he NOW has more experience in the job than Cain.

That's actually very big of you Rex :)  Normally I would leave it there, but you bring up a point that strikes an odd chord with me...  The idea that experience on the job has such great value, that one would vote for someone with experience, even if that person would use that experience to impose policies that run counter to what said persion believes is right for America.  I prefer to vote for the vision... the person who embraces the policies that embody my vision for an ideal America, even if that person has less "experience" in the job.  As I see it, experience can be acquired, but a person's belief system is almost impossible to change.  Therein lies the danger with using one's level of experience in deciding who to vote for.

Then again I have not spent much time listening to Cain outside of what I read and that video above. I have to disagree with him in that video where he claims a problem is a problem is a problem. Not all problems are equal. About the ONLY thing Cain has going for him right now is the fact he is running as a Republican.

Well he's got his "9-9-9" tax plan.  It's great if you're a millionare.  If you work for a living however, it's a huge tax increase.  Which is probably why it's such a popular idea among Republican politicians.

I feel Bush Jr. had experience when he first ran because of his father being the President. Naturally Bush Jr. would have been exposed to a lot more things than many outsiders. Same goes for Obama's immediate family, Michelle probably has a better understanding of how things work in Washington than Cain, although I think his kids are a little too young to be absorbing what really goes on in the White House, yet I feel even Obamas kids might have more of an idea about how things work in DC than Cain! LOL Hillary Clinton would be another person who has been close enough to the action to have what I consider Presidential experience, and probably she has more than all of the people I have mentioned above put together.

You are correct about Hillary being one of the most qualified people to be president right now.  The reason she isn't though, is because the Democratic party chose vision over experience in the primary.

Bottom line, the fact that Cain was in charge of a Pizza joint named "Godfathers Pizza" of all things does not necessarily make me think he is fit for the job. His past employment with the Federal Reserve is not what many Americans see as a "feather in his hat", more like a sign he could be corrupt.

I love Godfather's Pizza.  I've been blissfully unaware for years that it had been run by a Republican.  I think the pizza tastes even better now that he's gone though ;)


 



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Bush Jr. also owned his own company (marginally successful oil company) so he had actual business experience as well as political experience working for his dad.

Cain is a business turnaround expert and this is in part what qualifies him -- he has taken over multiple companies that were headed into the ground and turned them around by analyzing their problems and making the tough decisions to turn them around. And he was successful multiple times. He also has a much better story than Obama does -- Cain worked himself up from absolutely nothing to get where he is. Obama was a product of the CIA and was groomed from birth as a CIA stooge (if you don't believe me, read this): http://www.infowars.com/bombshell-barack-obama-conclusively-outed-as-cia-creation/

That's not Obama's fault that he is what he is. It's just a fact. The Bush family also has decades long ties to the CIA -- in fact the father President was CIA director at one time. It's just the environment we're dealing with these days. But when you really look at Obama, and his lack of qualifications, and what he's all about, and delve into his background (and both his parents) you see the pieces fall into place.

Cain is infinitely more qualified to be President than Obama ever was, simply because he is not afraid to tell it like it is, and look for solutions to the problems. Cain has REAL life experience both in the trenches and managing large organizations, and turning them around successfully. Cain will never get elected though, because he's not a politician.

I wish the Republicans would just get over it and admit that Romney is their man, and get behind him. I'm not a particular Romney fan but you can bet that he has both government and private sector executive experience, he certainly knows the ins and outs of health care (and says he will work to repeal Obamacare, and I believe him), and he's pretty smart and articulate. He also has a certain grace and finesse that many of the other candidates lack - he tends to try to stay above the fray, and I think this makes him more Presidential. Not saying I would vote for him in the primaries, but he is moderate enough that if he goes up against Obama he will certainly win. He's the most electable candidate that the Republicans have.

He'll get tarred and feathered for his flip flopping, and Romneycare, and so forth, but the desire of the American people to get the failure Obama out of office will outweigh his negatives. Obama would have been in a MUCH better position if he hadn't have set the expectations and bar so high with his "Hope and Change" rhetoric during the 2008 campaign. If he had just acted as a normal, realistic politician who set reasonable expectations from the get-go, he'd be getting re-elected. Instead he (with the help of the media) tried to pass himself off as some sort of "Messiah" figure and thus set the bar of expectations SO high that it was unreachable. It was so obvious. And I was SERIOUSLY ROTFLMFAO when he got the Nobel Price -- evidence that he did a great job suckering the rest of the world with his rhetoric too.

He's toast, gone, and will go down in the history books as even more of a failure than Jimmy Carter was. That's a hard one to beat but Obummer has done it !!!

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I've made myself clear -- all unions ought to be busted and abolished, and union members should either be put into forced labor camps or given the opportunity to better their education so they can get jobs that actually add value to the economy (intellectual capital) rather than doing repetitive factory jobs that I could train a chimpanzee to do. It's not blue collar workers per se (after all I'd own my own Mercedes repair shop if I could ... and I came very very close to doing so about 5 years ago) it's about union members who get paid huge money for doing jobs that should be outsourced overseas or given to monkeys.


 You didn't exactly answer all of my Questions Gerry.  Do you think I could be replaced by a monkey?  What do you do for HP that couldn't be replaced by a monkey?  Did you have to pay back your parents when they financed your college education?  Do you not think that repetitive factory jobs add any value to the economy? 

All unions do is provide some democracy in the workplace and level the playing field during contract negotiations. 

One of the reasons our economy is in the dumps, is because policy makers have forgotten that one of the most efficient ways to build wealth, is to take a raw material, turn it into a finished product, and sell it for a profit.  This involves assembly lines with many people doing repetitive things, but it's honest work, and it creates real value.  Now our manufacturing base has been outsourced because manual labor is no longer valued by half of our politicians...  Now Wall Street, which used to be a place where people could invest in companies, has become a casino where people can bet against a company without actually investing in anything.  Now tell me which way to create wealth is more noble please Gerry.  And then tell me how much I, as a senior master technician and Diesel specialist for a Ford dealership should actually earn in your ideal society without unions to help me negotiate with the owner, who by the way, is just as hostile to labor as you are?

 



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Maybe ole' Cain is right about Obama being a Racist!

I am also starting to come around to this new 9-9-9 tax idea, because basically it would eliminate all payroll tax and ultimately do away with the IRS. It would also make hiring people much easier for us small businesses.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/15/cains-impossible-dream-resonates-with-voters/

Cain might not have experience, but it sounds like he is trying to solve a problem that would in solve many others in the process. After hearing that the Obama administration is sending 100 troops to Central Africa I am starting to think an experienced Obama could be dangerous. Not only that I worry what kind of trouble Obama would get us into if given a final term where he didn't really have to give a shit about the people, not that he does now.



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Cain's plan would end up raising taxes for people in our brackets by about 5 grand per year, since we work for a living and spend much of our income. This is why consumption taxes adversely affect middle class people as opposed to billionares who spend a tiny sliver of thir income to live, and hide the rest in offshore accounts.

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Oh.. So you want me to get behind this administrations lame brained ideas but you wont entertain my man Cain's?

Your a racist PowerStroker! And if Cain were here he would concur!

 



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You're calling ME a racist!!! It's not Cain's race I have a problem with, it's his math.

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Yeah... You must be a racist PowerStroker! You disagree with Cain.

How does that feel PowerStroker? You guys on the left do that kind of shit all the time when someone does not agree with Obama.



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Rare form? What am I slab of beef now?

Guess I am just a cut above the rest.



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