Take a look for yourself,

You can go ahead and laugh now. That's because "ignorance is bliss".

The questions they ask such as,

"How much is your mortgage / land contract"

"How much do you pay for electricity / gas "

"How big is your land, how many rooms"

"How much do you make in a year, along with how much everyone else in the house makes"

"How many cars are in the house"

"Where were the people in your house living prior to moving in"

"How much do you speculate your home to be worth"

And it just keeps going and going! In the section for filling in information for "others" it asks you to rate how well the person speaks English, if they go to work, where they work, and how much they make! It even goes on to ask "What time does this person leave for work", "How long do they drive" (Check out page 10 of the ACS). As if someone is going to release this kind of information to just a stranger! And the plain and simple fact that just 48 hours of receiving the packet they send out a post card trying to rush your reply.

Here is the link to the survey in PDF format

http://www.census.gov/acs/www/Downloads/questionnaires/2012/Quest12.pdf 

Read that shit and tell me some of them questions arent a violation of privacy! Of course they didn't send one out to everyone at once! Because if that was the case people would be bitching nation-wide! They know that so long as a minority of people get stuck filling out the forms the majority will just fluff it off, of course it's just a matter of time before this monstrosity will be awaiting in your mail box.

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

At the VERY least the ACS is putting people in the position to speculate about others or risk sending in an incomplete survey. Just click on the link and read! Then tell me "Ill wait until I get mine"!

Need more proof this Census thing was pushed hard by the Obama Administration? Read this,

Census Data Not So Confidential After All
By Mary L. G. Theroux  |  Posted: Mon. March 8, 2010

"The current $350 million ad campaign for the 2010 Census, including the much-maligned $2.5 million Super Bowl spots, urges individuals to Tell your story. The Census Bureau is particularly eager for minorities and illegal immigrants to do so, as they are traditionally believed to be the most undercounted.

Yet widespread non-compliance, especially among those most likely to be discriminated against by a majority, may not be rooted strictly in the ignorance the ads are designed to overcome. Historyincluding very recent historyshows that the information provided to the Census can be used against you.

The most recent examples occurred in 2002 and 2003, when the Census Bureau turned over information it had collected about Arab-Americans to Homeland Security.

Data from the 1940 Census was used to intern Japanese, Italian, and German Americans following the U.S.s entry into the war, and to monitor and persecute others who escaped internment. In addition to providing geographic information to the War Department, the Census Bureau released the name, address, age, sex, citizenship status and occupation of Japanese Americans in the Washington, D.C., area to the Treasury Department in response to an unspecified threat against President Franklin Roosevelt in 1943.

There may well be other instances of such data sharing of which we remain unaware, as the full scope of the personal information released during World War II has only recently been brought to light.

Thus, while the Census Bureau assures us that your confidentiality is protected. Title 13 requires the Census Bureau to keep all information about you and all other respondents strictly confidential, these exceptions negate such assurances. Of course, the release of the strictly confidential data was also perfectly legal: during World War II, under the terms of the Second War Powers Act, and more recently, under the terms of the USA PATRIOT Act, now extended by the Obama administration.

In preparation for this years census, 140,000 workers were hired to collect GPS readings for every front door in the nation. Such pinpoint precision will certainly simplify the process of locating any individual or group that may be identified as a threat to national security in the future. Remember, for example, the 1976 Senate Report in which 26,000 Americans were slated for roundup by the FBI in the event of a national emergency at the height of the Cold War. Now that the U.S. Governments Terrorist Watchlist has exceeded one million, the GPS data acquired could be instrumental in accomplishing such a roundup.

Meanwhile, the data is also shared a little more broadly than advertised. Stanford University recently joined UC Berkeley, Duke, the University of Michigan, UCLA, and others in having its very own census data center. As the director of the new center explained, The Census Bureau is very interested in making the centers more accessible to scholars who can use the data they provide.

As Henry Brady, dean of the Goldman School of Public Policy at UC Berkeley and principal investigator for the California Census Research Data Centers helpfully added: Were trying to make centers where lots of federal agencies will let us use their data.

While reassurances are repeated that the data is held under the strictest security, and will only be used for innocuous projects like government programs and solutions to our problems, do we really want academics to social engineer policy solutions based on sensitive personal data? After all, they may turn out to be no more desirable than the solutions provided by government programs like internment and renditioning. Without the protections afforded by a right to privacy, theres little chance of escaping a political will to enforce discriminatory policies.

This mission creep for the Census thus pushes up against a level of discomfort no amount of advertising dollars can likely assuage. Many will no doubt choose to follow former Senate majority leader Trent Lotts advice to skip any Census questions they feel violates their privacywhich may well include any exceeding the Constitutions mandate for an actual Enumeration. Unfortunately, choosing privacy now costs more: legislation recently passed raises the fine for anyone over 18 years old who refuses or willfully neglects to complete the questionnaire or answer questions posed by census takers from a limit of $100 to $5,000a fact not advertised even in the small print. "

http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=2744

So what gives PowerStroker? Was the 2010 Census not enough information? HEY GERRY! Where is the outrage?

What's next? A Census form asking how often I have sex? How often I take a shit or pass gas? Where does it end? My point being here is that the current survey goes too far, to the point I would have told anyone else to fuck off and mind their own business. Just look at this ACS survey and ask yourself what kind of monster questionnaires the new Obama Care will spawn which will REQUIRE you to answer personal information, or pay a fine.

Some might argue it's less expensive to just ignore the ACS and risk the fine as it could only be a matter of time before lazy people like PowerStroker, Gerry and the MSM to become aware or "care", but by then it's too late because people like me will just say "I told you so".  

So read the damn survey, be a good American and a friend and tell me.... IS THIS RIGHT? Would you want ME giving details to the government about how much you made at work? What time you went to work? How many hours you spent at work? The location of your work. Or if you were unemployed they ask if you any person in your house was "Able to work" but just didnt. You would literally have to fill out this information for anyone that lived in your home for two months or less.

I honestly feel that gathering this information from some households could result in serious household drama. Imagine you had a brother or parent living with you, what do you think they would say when you start asking personal questions? Or worse yet how would you feel about someone else speculating on your business and then reporting this information to the government? It's seriously fucked up! I insist you mfer's acknowledge this!

PowerStroker wrote:

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ROFLMAO

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SELLC wrote:

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Who's ROTFLMAO now?

 

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 That would still be Gerry and me

I'm not getting screwed Gerry... I moved!

Now I get to watch day after day as the person they send out goes to an empty home and ruins the nice door with sticky letters. Amazing how the Democrat of the house felt the same as you two, arrogant and understanding... But now they sing a diffrent tune, just like both of you will when this over-reach comes to your mail box!

There is a reason they are doing this in small batches, and it's to keep the lid on what most "REAL" Americans would consider to be a violation of privacy and an unfair burden on the citizens of the United States.

Don't worry guys... The U.S. Census wont forget about you! So while you spend the 40 minutes it takes to fill out the form all the while throwing your own family under the bus you can think of me and how I told you so.

What bothers me the MOST about this Survey? The fact the Government wants YOU to speculate about others, or at the very least harass family members for information they might not want to share. I'd be PISSED if someone speculated and answered some of the questions on that form about me. The U.S. Census should be prosecuted for even asking people to speculate about others business! They should also be prosecuted for extorsion, in asking others to do their work under the threat of a fine. As it stands anyone who holds one of these forms is being made into a defacto ACS agent weather they want to be or not! That right there should be enough to make ANYONE sick.

So... Under the current administration we have a Mandatory Fee if we dont buy insurance, a Manditory fee if you dont work as the ACS's slave... Hell pretty soon Americans will have two choices in life, do what the Government feels is right, or pay a fine. America is going down the toilet!

Meanwhile I get to watch Ancestry commercials that brag about how they have access to Census data, which they are more than happy to sell to you for money!

Enjoy guys!

PowerStroker wrote:

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Somalia sounding pretty good these days?

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 By the time you and your team of jack ass's get done making a mess of things I'd imagine Somalia will look good, along with other nations like China, Mexico, Brazil, and a hand full of countries that once were 3rd world nations until the Democrats gave them all of America's money.

Some legacy you guys are working on!

PowerStroker wrote:

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You're welcome!

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 And You're broke.

I wasn't talking about money...

You are morally bankrupt if you feel the ACS is anything but a shake down of the American family! It's an outright invasion of privacy that forces someone to speculate on things they should NEVER be forced to ask someone else.

Let's see how you feel about answering the following questions,

(1) How much do you think your home is worth?

(2) How many miles do you drive to work each week?

(3) Exactly what time do you leave and get back home from work?

(4) What is your anual gross income?

(5) How much is your gas and electric bill?

(6) Has anyone other then YOU lived or stayed at your address? If yes please answer sub section.

Sub Section

(1a) What is the name of this person who stayed or lived at you home

(2a) What race were they?

(3a) Do they work? If so what is the address? What time do they leave for work and get home?

(4a) How much does this person make in a year?

(5a) Where did they live/stay before you?

(6a) Are they collecting any medical bennifits, welfare, or social security?

You should have no problems telling us all this information freely PowerStroker, because in a few years all this stuff will be sold to Ancestory companies for public viewing.

Oh and by the way, the ACS is 28 pages! Not just 12 questions.

If it was JUST questions that pertain to me then fine, I could understand that... But when the Government sends out surveys that require me to shake down friends or family? Fuck that! I am shocked that there hasn't been a bigger outcry about this. Hell privacy rights alone should make this kind of shake down illegal!

Put this in perspective.. Imagine your mom or a family member lived at your home for a month while moving... Would you feel comfortable shaking them down and asking some of these questions? And even if you did, would you feel right shaking down your own mother, brother, sister or even worse yet CHILD!? FUCK THAT! It's wrong and the information they are asking for can be gotten from other sources that do not require the citzen to become a fucking member of the SS.

C'mon PowerStroker, we both know the only pool you can play is "Pocket Pool".

What's this new furnature for? Show? LOL!

Hows the pool table treating you PowerStroker?

And Stoma, how's your Mom's ass? 

You never got the ACS back when I wrote this? You made it seem like you didnt, which bothered me a bit.

I bumped the thread because I been reading that they are going to do another one.

Maybe youll feel differently if you get one this time and I dont?

Your bro has probably been enjoying your table, maybe even had sex on it a few times by now. lol

PowerStroker wrote:

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Those 4 states are the population centers, I say let the popular vote decide.

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You only say that because 

a) You lost

b) You lost

c) You know illegals voting is a ramped problem in these population centers.

Why do you hate your country so much PowerStroker?

Then why didn't you participate in the ACS back when it was out?

Why do you not have any concern about the future of the country? Why do you feel the need to just give it away, along with all your money and everyone else's?

Well then WTF!? 

Maybe you didn't fill out a census form after all! Maybe it was just an absentee ballot you were filling out to hand into your union rep? That sounds more than likley because you would for sure remember if you took the ACS, which obviously you did not.