According to Sky News Australia, which broadcast a video Monday that had been kept under wraps for 13 years, Bill Clinton made a satement saying "I'm just saying, you know, if I were Usama Bin Laden -- he's a very smart guy, I've spent a lot of time thinking about him -- and nearly got him once, I nearly got him. And I could have killed him, but I would have to destroy a little town called Kandahar in Afghanistan and kill 300 innocent women and children, and then I would have been no better than him"
The date he made these recoded statements? September 10th 2001!
I think it's clear to see the real truth is coming out. It's clear to see it was the Democrats who failed to vet the threats both then, and soon after Bill Clinton was out of office. I can only imagine how pissed Clinton was after getting caught cheating on his wife, and then the massive impeachement efforts that went viral in the media.
Seems to me, you can't trust the Clintons, or the Democrats for that matter. Odd how the Dow dropped 300 points in less than a half hour today as the market closed.
Yes SELLC, maybe there's more to read in-between the lines than what's actually revealed here too...But sticking with what we "do" know, until that tragic day in NYC, your government would have been only chasing hearsay & rumor...And the problem with terrorists, is that they're potentially everywhere, & like the Vietcong, who knows who the enemy actually is ?...Osama Bin Laden along with the crazy Islamic terrorist group Al Qada apparently did accept the responsibility for a number of attacks against the US, including ( I think ) the sinking of a US vessel off-the-coast of Africa & some other matters also tha I've forgotten about I'm sorry. But who but an idiot wants to take responsibility for this type of thing, apart from an idiot wanting some free-press ? !!! And that's what maybe your government at the time was thinking, or at least wants us to believe...
I did hear that at the time of the 9-11 attacks against the USA & free-world, that Osama Bin Ladens family were flown from Saudi Arabia to safety by US intelligence agencies, so there's a can of worms here that's partially open...But no one wants to follow-up or ask any questions...
Mr Clinton was one of the worlds most powerful men for a time, & a giddy secretary offered him some stress-relief that he begrudgingly accepted on a few occasions...And why not ?...If your marriage-life is over, & opportunity presents itself, life's great again until the press find out about it LOL ! What surprised me though, is that Hillary is / was a VERY attractive woman, & I would have thought far more desirable that Ms Lawinsky....( Spell check sorry )...
Apparently, Mr.Clinton is / was not the only US President that's thought to have cheated on his wife...
You must be a little crazy to trust ANY government official from anywhere around the world my friend...
Anyhow, I've said way-too-much about things I know very little about ! Between yourself & PowerStroker I learn about your politics, so let's hope he replies soon LOL ! - But thanks for letting me throw in my 2-cents !!!
Cheers,
Rastus
-- Edited by Rastus on Friday 1st of August 2014 09:21:46 AM
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Whilst we're waiting for PowerStroker's response, & after giving it some more thought, I do seem to remember that a lot of 9-11 had to do with dealings over in Afghanistan, between both the USA, & Russia trying to divide-up the vast amount of oil-deposits available from there...It gets messy though, since secret-arms-deals from both sides were apparently going-on, with one-side supplying the rebels, & the other the regular folks, & then Al Qada somewhere in-between making things even more confusing...
Apparently it was said that a US official said something to the Afghanistan leaders along the lines of "take our red carpet of money, or we'll lay a carpet of bombs" ....Or words of something to-that-effect...
This all had to do with the discussions of laying-a-pipe-line for the oil to flow, from its source in Afghanistan to the Arabian Sea via ( I think ) Pakistan... This way a war in the Middle-East wouldn't affect the oil-supply as it's not transported through the Gulf...So it potentially stayed safer...But we've found other oil-reserves since...
Ah, the price of oil.....Still, it's far cheaper than the price we're all paying now for Nuclear Power.....
Cheers,
Rastus
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"Only an alert & knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial & military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods & goals, so that security & liberty may prosper together". Dwight D.Eisenhower.
I have no doubt that in a post 911 world, Bill Clinton, or a president of any party would be more than willing to flatten Kandahar and 300 or so "collateral damage"people in order to kill Bin Laden. Luckily Obama was able to be more surgical about it.
Hindsight is always 20-20, just ask Bush about when he was handed an intelligence briefing titled "Bin Laden determined to attack America" or something to that effect.
Or for that matter, Bush Sr. When he was shaking hands with Saddam Hussein.
It's very interesting how you are trying to minimize this, considering all the "black-op's" Clinton had going in his day. You say it's hindsight, but I say it was a seriously bad judgement call on Clinton's part for not taking the shot when he had it. The fact that he bragged about it the day before brings into light an element of arrogance on his part, one that may very well have caused 9/11 to happen! You just don't brag about that kind of thing, unless you are trying to provoke.
Bush may very well been informed about an "attack", but I can guarantee you it was not specific. It also doesn't help when you have an arrogant asshole running his mouth provoking the attack. Bush Sr. on the other hand was working with Saddam early on, but my understanding is that the relationship went south. Shortly after that relationship went south, Saddam tried to have Bush Sr. assasinated, but failed.
It goes without saying that when 9/11 happened, Bush Jr. must have felt the most serious threat was in Iraq, as at the time Osama wasn't even really a major player and lacked the influance that a more powerful Saddam had. In fact, it wasnt until after 9/11 that people would learn of Osama. Yet Clinton sure seemed to know of him well!
It does bring into question a very good point... "What should constitute a kill on sight order"? Well since we the public don't get the details until obviously way after something bad happens, I guess we are forced to trust other peoples decisions. I'd say anyone hell bent on causing harm to Americans would be a definate "shoe-in", yet I still have to wonder if this could be absued to take out non-violent opposition. I feel it's a very slippery slope, one that would require proof that a person is working to cause destruction on a mass level, or has killed without justfication. I'm sure there are two sides to every story, and some of these radicals may have lost loved ones to war, to which they blame the USA and thus feel justfied. As an American I can't say that I'd accept any reason for inflicting harm to Americans. But anyone ignorant or angry enough to take credit for a hostile act against this nation deserves what they get, regardless if they did it or not!
It all boils down to poor leadership, bad decisions and in this case an arrogant braggart who ran his cocky little mouth, which needless to say; caused us serious harm. I'm sure after 8 years of Bush keeping Osama on the run, it would only be a matter of time before the opportunity to take him out would represent itself.
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I'm sure after 8 years of Bush keeping Osama on the run, it would only be a matter of time before the opportunity to take him out would represent itself.
You can tell that Bush really had Bin Laden running for his life... What with the living in a big house in downtown Abbottabad with multiple wives and a huge collection of porn and all.
