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President Trump's first military action


'Almost Everything Went Wrong': SEAL, U.S. Girl Die in First Trump-Era Military Raid

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Robert Windrem and William M. Arkin and Courtney Kube and Charlene Gubash© Tracy Woodward

In what an official said was the first military raid carried out under President Donald Trump, two Americans were killed in Yemen on Sunday one a member of SEAL Team 6 and the other the 8-year-old daughter of Anwar al-Awlaki, the New Mexico-born al Qaeda leader who himself was killed in a U.S. strike five years ago.

The raid in southern Yemen, conducted by the supersecret Joint Special Operations Command, was intended to capture valuable intelligence, specifically computer equipment, according to a senior U.S. military official. Three al Qaeda leaders were killed, according to U.S. officials.

Contrary to earlier reporting, the senior military official said, the raid was Trump's first clandestine strike not a holdover mission approved by President Barack Obama. The mission involved "boots on the ground" at an al Qaeda camp near al Bayda in south central Yemen, the official said.

"Almost everything went wrong," the official said.

An MV-22 Osprey experienced a hard landing near the site, injuring several SEALs, one severely. The tilt-rotor aircraft had to be destroyed. A SEAL was killed during the firefight on the ground, as were some noncombatants, including females.

© Yemeni media Image: An image of 8-year-old Nora Anwar Al-Awlaki, who was killed by an airstrike in Yemen ordered by President Trump.

Defense Secretary James Mattis had to leave one of Washington's biggest annual social events, the Alfalfa Club Dinner, to deal with the repercussions, according to the official. He did not return.

On Monday, he released a statement identifying the dead SEAL as Chief Petty Officer William "Ryan" Owens and said, "Ryan gave his full measure for our nation, and in performing his duty, he upheld the noblest standard of military service."

The senior military official said the 8-year-old girl, Nawar al-Awlaki, also known as Nora, was among the noncombatants killed in the raid, which also resulted in the death of several Yemeni women. U.S. officials said some of the women who were killed, however, were combatants and had opened fire on the SEALs as they approached the al Qaeda camp.

The girl's grandfather, Nasser al-Awlaki, Yemen's former agriculture minister, told NBC News a different story. He identified his granddaughter as the dead girl from a photo taken at the scene of the raid but based his description on what happened at the camp on conversations with what he characterized as Yemeni sources.

"My granddaughter was staying for a while with her mother, so when the attack came, they were sitting in the house, and a bullet struck her in her neck at 2:30 past midnight. Other children in the same house were killed," al-Awlaki said. He said the girl died two hours after being shot.

"They [the SEALs] entered another house and killed everybody in it, including all the women. They burned the house. There is an assumption there was a woman [in the house] from Saudi Arabia who was with al Qaeda. All we know is that she was a children's teacher."

Al-Awlaki said the girl and her mother had fled the Yemeni capital, Sa'ana, where he lives, to escape the heavy shelling.

The child's mother, Anwar al-Awlaki's widow, survived the raid with a minor wound, according to Nasser al-Awlaki. However, Anwar al-Awlaki's brother-in-law was killed in the raid. The death toll varies according to the sourcing, with the Pentagon saying 14 militants died, along with "numerous" civilians. Nasser al-Awlaki said Yemenis were circulating a body count of combatants and civilians as high as 59.

In explaining the attack, the senior U.S. military official told NBC News: "Al Qaeda is probably stronger in Yemen than in any other country. The U.S. has mounted in intense effort for the past three years from ship, air and drone to go after a reconstituting core al Qaeda organization in Yemen."

The raid, said the official, was directed from a U.S. base in Djibouti, across the Gulf of Aden from the southern tip of the Arabian peninsula and the western edge of Yemen. Officially, the United States was searching for "information that will likely provide insight into the planning of future terror plots."

Karen Greenberg, director of Fordham University's Center on National Security, said the girl's death will be a boon to al Qaeda propagandists.

"The perception will be that it's not enough to kill al-Awlaki that the U.S. had to kill the entire family," she said.

Nawar's father, Anwar al-Awlaki was killed by a drone on Sept. 30, 2011, not far from Sunday's raid. The U.S. Justice Department had approved killing him in a memorandum that was disclosed in 2014. The memo concluded, "We do not believe that al-Awlaki's U.S. citizenship imposes constitutional limitations that would preclude the contemplated lethal action" by the U.S. military or the CIA.

Al-Awlaki, who was born while his father was a graduate student in the United States, moved to Yemen and became a prodigious propagandist who, the United States said in the memo, had played "operational and leadership roles" with al Qaeda and "continues to plot attacks intended to kill Americans."

U.S. intelligence also believed al-Awlaki was a potential successor to Osama Bin Laden, who had been killed six months earlier.

Nawar al-Awlaki is the second of Anwar al-Awlaki's children to be killed by U.S. forces. Two weeks after Anwar was killed in late 2011, his 16-year-old son, Abdulrahman, was also struck in a drone strike. U.S. officials said the younger al-Awlaki was in the wrong place at the wrong time that he was with their intended target, an al Qaeda leader.

Intentional or not, Greenberg said, the deaths of three al-Awlaki family members will enhance the al Qaeda narrative. She noted that as part of propaganda efforts, terrorist groups have begun to circulate photographs of children reputedly killed by U.S. forces. Photos of Nawar al-Awlaki alive and dead are already circulating widely in Arab media.

Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula released a statement via online jihadi media referring to the raid as a "massacre," said U.S. troops had fired on women and children "in cold blood," and accused the SEALs of having "no human values."

Rima Abdelkader contributed to this report.



-- Edited by PowerStroker on Tuesday 31st of January 2017 05:35:47 PM

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*sigh*

A prime example of how Democrats operate can be seen in this threads poll... The two choices are obviously lacking any real choice... We call that bigoted where I'm from.

It reminds me of the healthcare situation... You'll take it, or you'll pay a fine if you don't. Gee... What should I do here? The choices are so vast I can't decide.

I'll take "What's choice #3" for $500 Alex...



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*sigh*

A prime example of how Democrats operate can be seen in this threads poll... The two choices are obviously lacking any real choice... We call that bigoted where I'm from.

It reminds me of the healthcare situation... You'll take it, or you'll pay a fine if you don't. Gee... What should I do here? The choices are so vast I can't decide.

I'll take "What's choice #3" for $500 Alex...


 Hey SELLC,

It seems that once again you're missing the point...A tragic & horrible event has just taken place, & there's been two-sides of the story printed. Once again there's a search for truth here.

I have a couple of questions however....Can someone answer please...

1. What gives the US-of-A the right to kill people, when they have not even done anything to the US-of-A, to warrant such action ?

2. What the **** is the US-of-A doing over there anyway ?...It's not your country, so why don't you ****-off out of there ?

3. Since Mr.Trump can decide who comes & goes within the borders of the US-of-A, why don't you take the hint from other countries around the world, & ****-off out of their country ?...

4. Is the free-world bound to a "Do as I say, not as I do" attitude by the US-of-A ?. (This is hypocrisy at its best IMO).

5. If the west is so smart, after reading the above, why is it we just don't leave in peace, & take action when the sticks & stones strike our country ?

6. When did paranoia start leading the way to Military executions ?

7. Is burning the evidence necessary ?

This is really bad Karma IMO.

Ciao,

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-- Edited by Rastus on Wednesday 1st of February 2017 07:57:13 AM



-- Edited by Rastus on Wednesday 1st of February 2017 07:59:30 AM

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1.) What kind of liberal BS question is that? You think Americans enjoy having to go all over the world and deal with idiots? Here is one, how about they quit being stupid fu@king a$$holes and we can all rest easier. 

2.) What we do and where we do it is our business. P1ss off..

3.) See answer #2

4.) The world is bound to the law of the jungle. People trying to pervert reality with some civilized PC-BS, only to gain an advantage, should and will be dealt with as such.

5.) We do, America's involvement in interest abroad ebb and flow. Look at South Korea, Vietnam, Germany, and soon - with the right leadership, Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya will heal.

6.) Your statement in of itself is fictional and I do not read into false narratives. 

7.) I am not even sure I understand the question, thus I couldn't tell you one way or the other.

How about you tell us all about the great things Australia is doing for the world? How your leaders are helping to advance the world and protect others beyond it own interest? That would be most interesting Rastus!



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Q1. What kind of liberal BS question is that?

Q2.You think Americans enjoy having to go all over the world and deal with idiots?

Q3. Here is one, how about they quit being stupid fu@king a$$holes and we can all rest easier.

 

Answers to questions from SELLC for previous post...

 

A4.) The world is bound to the law of the jungle. People trying to pervert reality with some civilized PC-BS, only to gain an advantage, should and will be dealt with as such.

A5.) We do, America's involvement in interest abroad ebb and flow. Look at South Korea, Vietnam, Germany, and soon - with the right leadership, Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya will heal.

A6.) Your statement in of itself is fictional and I do not read into false narratives. 

A7.) I am not even sure I understand the question, thus I couldn't tell you one way or the other.

 

More questions from SELLC...

 

Q4.How about you tell us all about the great things Australia is doing for the world?

Q5. How your leaders are helping to advance the world and protect others beyond it own interest? That would be most interesting Rastus!


 

 

OK, here it goes again...

A1. I didn't know anyone killed anyone except that the US-of-A has killed approx. 60 civilians ( depending on who's story you believe in PowerStrokers post ).

A2. Americans politicians decide it's in "their" best financial interests to do so. (Just ask Mr.Cheney....). Irrespective of what the good people of the nation want.

A3. Why don't you just leave them alone ?....And mind your own business...Tell them that the US-of-A has enough problems of its own to deal with !!! - But if I can make a dollar...

A4. Australia generally minds its own business, but finds itself "directed" by old alliance agreements / treaties to kiss ass with the US-of-A, & / or the U.K.....The UK since ( thank God ) we're still part of the British Commonwealth, & the US-of-A, pretty much because we're in equal division between you two world powers...We're kind of like your best friend that will follow who-ever without question, or too much bother...Put simply, we have no balls, since we have no nukes...- ( Though this does mean we have some brain power ). However, we do also make natural resources easily available for the whole world to take advantage of, simply because "you" say so, or else...You could easily consider us the 52-59 States of America if you like.

A5. As you can see from the answer in Q4., you do that for us !!! We're just like the lost puppy that follows you everywhere you go...But I think in truth, we have no choice, since the whole world is at your mercy, & shit scared of what the US-of-A has actually become. A Republican Fascist Dictatorship...And the blood that you choose to take, is spilled on our hands too, so we're just as accountable, hence my direct no bullshit questions...- As I'd like to know why...I have no grudge against American people, or any people around the world, but the US-of-A government is evil, period. And that scares me.

Ciao,

Rastus



-- Edited by Rastus on Wednesday 1st of February 2017 09:47:20 AM

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I wonder if the Attorney General will appoint a special prosecutor to charge President Trump for violating the Posse Comitatus Act since an American girl was killed by the American military?

Oh yeah, that's right, he just fired the Attorney General so I guess not.

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But I'm sure Jeff Sessions will make a wonderful Attorney General and will keep President Trump in check - NOT.

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You know... It used to be I'd wake up and every single day I'd read things that only seemed to piss me off...

But the last month I can't help but say the news has been quite pleasant! 

Go figure...

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So the murder of an innocent American girl and death of a Navy Seal is pleasant to you?

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No it's not pleasant, but I am sure it goes without saying that letting an entire embassy get sacked and all the people in it killed isn't pleasant either.

Tell me PowerStoker, what was the name of the little girl and the Navy seal? Did you even bother to take notice of that before getting on here and using their deaths as a political football?



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I did but I don't remember their names now. I suppose I could read it again and pretend, but you asked an honest question and I answer it honestly.



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Well I read the article and it appears the family wants privacy, so probably worked out for the better. Still a shame, but these Navy Seals aren't exactly low risk soldiers. I guess the seal team this guy was in was the same group that got Osama. How the news even get's this information, I don't know... But apparently from what I read the guy was a real bad ass, something like 15 missions under his belt! Just a shame because I think I read he had 3 kids and a wife that he left behind. This kind of thing happens in war, it's a shame... And it happens a lot more often than many people even bother to mention. I guess if you were going to die, might as well go out like a bad ass in a blaze of glory! 



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Well I read the article and it appears the family wants privacy, so probably worked out for the better. Still a shame, but these Navy Seals aren't exactly low risk soldiers. I guess the seal team this guy was in was the same group that got Osama. How the news even get's this information, I don't know... But apparently from what I read the guy was a real bad ass, something like 15 missions under his belt! Just a shame because I think I read he had 3 kids and a wife that he left behind. This kind of thing happens in war, it's a shame... And it happens a lot more often than many people even bother to mention. I guess if you were going to die, might as well go out like a bad ass in a blaze of glory! 


 

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