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Rachel Mad-Cow going to jail for illegally publishing tax returns?


Oh that would be soooooooooo nice!

And the best part is, she did nothing but prove President Trump is a true patriot by paying some $35 million in taxes in 2005 for a rate a little above 24%! Higher than what Obama, Clinton and Sanders ever paid!

 



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Sorry to burst your bubble, but it is only illegal for the IRS to disclose peoples tax returns despite what Shawn Spicer was bloveating about.

It was nice to see that he paid about 25 percent that year, which is about 10 percent higher than Romney, and 26 percent higher than Exxon, but still less than us.

I wonder why you never seem to be upset about corporate wellfare, which absolutely dwarfs the kind that does get you riled?

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Well, according to my "peeps" - whom you refer to as "far-right wing Neo-Nazi's",


26 U.S. Code § 7213 - Unauthorized disclosure of information 

(a) Returns and return information 

(3) Other persons 

It shall be unlawful for any person to whom any return or return information (as defined in section 6103(b)) is disclosed in a manner unauthorized by this title thereafter willfully to print or publish in any manner not provided by law any such return or return information. Any violation of this paragraph shall be a felony punishable by a fine in any amount not exceeding $5,000, or imprisonment of not more than 5 years, or both, together with the costs of prosecution. 

And also, 26 U.S. Code § 6103 - Confidentiality and disclosure of returns and return information 

Sounds like a $5000 / 5 year Felony to me... But obviously I am no legal scholar when it comes to courts run by liberal-Democrat Jews. To these types the law is whatever best suits them at the moment.

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Corporate welfare PowerStroker?

It never ceases to amaze me that most people don't understand how business deductions work... Any business that would rather pay taxes, rather than re-invest their profits into the company - be it via equipment purchases or incentives and or rebates for it's customers (you and I), isn't going to be a very viable business for long. I am actually shocked that Trump wasn't able to write off more deductions to run in the red, however he could have carried them losses over to 2006- current... It may well be that this tax return was leaked as bait, if only to make the left wing media look like idiots for saying all this time that Trump didn't pay taxes, when in fact he has. Obviously 2008-2016 would have been very bad years for Trump, if only because Obama BS policy all but devastated the economy despite being given $10 Trillion dollars over his 8 year term... Never mind the fact that ALL the Presidents before Obama didn't even spend that much going all the way back to 1776! 

Pretty sad if you ask me!



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Hey it looks like you're right, there is a law against it. Good on you for posting the actual statute. Realistically if there is anything done about it, it would likely be the fine and not prison time.
I'm glad to see your neo-nazi buddies are on their toes though :)

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Well how would you feel if someone published your tax returns on national TV for the whole world to see? Even if they were as good as Trumps? Wouldn't you feel differently?

Trump is an American citizen too... Just because other Presidents have done it voluntarily doesn't mean that Trump has to.



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Donald said he would release his tax returns before the election once a "routine audit" was completed.

Rachel was simply helping him keep a very public promise. Clearly he intended for his tax returns to be released, otherwise he wouldn't have made such a promise during the campaign. 

He is a man of his word isn't he?



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Why do you insist on posting videos from news organizations that rely on excerpts? Why not just post the entire "real" interviews from more reputable news sources? Is it because you want to skew President Trumps narrative? Project him in a light that is less than flattering? This is why President Trump maintains his Twitter and Facebook accounts, because regardless what he says to most liberal news desks, they will always report it differently. 

Now I seen the "real" interviews for all of the clips you have posted and I can tell you that they are pathetic.

Sure, Trump may release his tax returns... But considering Obama had his college records sealed, I don't think President Trump should release a single tax return until we get the full scoop on Obama!

How about that!? Fair?



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Not really, since Trump promised to release them prior to the election. Did Obama make such a promise about his college records?

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He never said exactly "when" after the election.

We are ALL still waiting on Obama college records and he has been out of office over a month now!



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All he said was before the election, so he was late and Rachel Maddow helped him rectify that error on his part.

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What are you talking about!?

Trump filed a "financial disclosure", as was required for someone seeking to become President!

This is a non-issue and an invasion of privacy! Obama NEVER produced his ORIGINAL long form birth certificate and you can't even produce a copy of a news paper that was photo copied. So if you think I am losing any sleep over Democrats crying about a non-issue, you'd be wrong!



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I wasn't born in 1961 and never lived in Hawaii. Please excuse me for not having every Hawaiian newspaper since 1960 on file.

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PowerStroker, you know damn well I'm not blaming YOU for the lack of a credible "original" newspaper. I'm trying to make you realize there is absolutely no way you would accept this newspaper farce if it come from or supported a Republican.

The person who made this farce of a copy would have the original to back it up. It's not out there because it doesn't exist!



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I try to keep an open mind, and if such a thing did come from or support a Republican, I would potentially change my thinking on that specific matter.

I'm never stuck in liberal hack mode. When people show me information that is contrary to what I believe to be true, I am open to it. Just as I congratulated you for showing me the statute saying it is illegal for anyone to publish someone elses tax returns, and I had previously believed it was only illegal for the government to do so. I adjusted my thinking because you presented me with some truth I had previously been unaware of.

I only wish some of the truths I have shown you over the years could have a similar impact on you.

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Well you have figure anyone giving you a loan outside credit cards is going to want to see your taxes... That being the case, I am sure a lot of companies and their employees have had their hands on Trumps returns, or any of us for that matter. Of course it would be illegal for ANYONE to publish them, that just seems like common sense anyway, No?



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Yeah, you make a good point there. I always figured the reason banks etc didn't publish such things is because of privacy regulations imposed on them by the government, which is why I thought it was ok for Rachel to post the returns, but not a bank. The media not being regulated for good reason, and the banks not being regulated enough-for no good reason, but I digress.

There is speculation that Trump himself mailed it to David K Johnson because one of the forms said "client copy" and Trump has apparently had a history of leaking certain things. I wouldn't be surprised if he picked the year that he paid the highest effective tax rate and strategically leaked that one, but I have no way to be sure.

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Yeah but you got to think about it like this PowerStroker, the people who work at the bank aren't the bank... They are just people! Should they copy someones taxes then anonymously send said returns to a reporter who then publishes them against the wishes of the owner, that's wrong! And at that point the responsibility to do the right thing falls on the shoulders of the news desk, reporter, or even the person who went out to the mail box and found them.

Once upon a time I went to a small lending organization in a strip mall for a loan under $5,000 to buy an older car that a bank would not loan on due to the age. When I applied online and was approved I went in to get my check but they wanted my tax returns, copies of my land contract and other information. By the looks of the people who were in there, and another applicants forms just laying on the table for me to see I didn't feel comfortable entrusting them with this information so I told them I was not invested in the loan because they did not appear reputable and no mention was made that I would have to give them such information online. I then filed a complaint on them.

I think it should also be illegal for banks or lenders to share your tax information or ANY information for that matter. I feel they should be required to keep it private and secure!

Don't you agree?



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I agree with that, and with most every consumer protection from financial service providers.

Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders agree with you too btw, but Trump wants to de-regulate the banks.

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Elizabeth Warren? You mean Pocahontas? How is what she did any different than what Obama has done? She claimed to be native American to take advantage of concessions offered to native Americans on account of the sole reason she has high cheekbones.. LOL

I think if Trump de-regulated banks it would not be to allow them to share customers information... I think it would have more to do with their lending, borrowing and investing practices.



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I don't think there is a de-regulation that Trump would object to, even if it would allow banks to sell your information for a profit.

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