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Is Fords small diesel engine a good idea? [3 vote(s)]

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New 3.0 Diesel Engine for Ford F150 - What are your thoughts?


I am not sure what to think about it except to say that every single time a company has tried to bring a small diesel to market for the masses it has been a complete flop eventually.

Take GM's try at the 350 Diesel

Take VW's try at the diesel and emissions cheating scandals.

Now we have Fords 3.0 liter Diesel!

Hey PowerStroker, have you seen one of these yet? Are they basically a smaller version of the Scorpion 6.7 engine?



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I haven't seen one in person yet. I have taken the web course, and it's like a 6.7 with 2 less cylinders, and TIMING BELTS for the cams and high pressure fuel pump. I don't know how well its going to work... Hopefully well enough to make it out of warranty.

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Belts? On a diesel engine for a truck?

Fords... Completely out of touch with reality and ever working to deprive it's customers of a vehicle that can be passed down thru the generations.

I hope Trump drives Ford into Bankruptcy, much like how Obama drove GM into bankruptcy while giving Daimler Benz a huge windfall before they gave Chrysler to Fiat..

 



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As I recall, GM and Chrysler were heading for complete death BEFORE Obama stepped in. Perhaps you can verify this?

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I don't recall that at all PowerStroker... What I recall was Chrysler flush with cash before Daimler buying them out, running them into the ground - then getting bailed out with mad cash from American Tax Payers before selling it for a handsome profit to Fiat! 

With regards to GM, they should have gotten a bail out, if only to keep GM American! Now word on the street is that Obama letting GM go bankrupt has allowed Fiat to almost acquire enough shares to perform a hostile take over of GM! And if it's not Fiat, you can be sure it will be someone! Obama also let Detroit go bankrupt!

I hope Trump lets Chicago go the way of Detroit also.



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You've got a very selective, and distorted memory Rex...

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https://www.politico.com/story/2008/12/bush-announces-174-billion-auto-bailout-016740

Bush announces $17.4 billion auto bailout

 
 

12/19/2008 08:22 AM EST

 

Updated 12/19/2008 01:31 PM EST

President George W. Bush stepped in Friday to keep America's auto industry afloat, announcing a $17.4 billion bailout for GM and Chrysler, with the terms of the loans requiring that the firms radically restructure and show they can become profitable soon.

"If we were to allow the free market to take its course now, it would almost certainly lead to disorderly bankruptcy," Bush said at the White House, in remarks carried live by the national broadcast networks. "In the midst of a financial crisis and a recession, allowing the U.S. auto industry to collapse is not a responsible course of action. The question is how we can best give it a chance to succeed."

Bush said that "bankruptcy now would lead to a disorderly liquidation of American auto companies."

"My economic advisers believe that such a collapse would deal an unacceptably painful blow to hardworking Americans far beyond the auto industry. It would worsen a weak job market and exacerbate the financial crisis," he said. "It could send our suffering economy into a deeper and longer recession."

The money will come from the Wall Street bailout passed by Congress, a reversal for the White House. President-elect Barack Obama and Democrats had long advocated that course, and Bush had resisted it.

Of the total, $13.4 billion will be paid out in December and January, administration officials told reporters in a briefing. The last $4 billion is contingent on release of the second installment of the Wall Street bailout funds by Congress.

As it happens in a source for some potential confusion this breakdown also corresponds with how the money will be divided between GM and Chrysler, the two major recipients.

Treasury estimates GM will require about $13.4 billion in loans; Chrysler $4 billion. Both companies will share in the first $13.4 billion paid out in December and January. GM will need the last $4 billion as well.

The government gets a stake in each company, and can call in the loans on March 31 if the firms cannot prove "viability" by then. The manufacturers do not have to be profitable immediately but have to be "profitable soon," a senior administration official said.

The structure largely follows the pattern of legislation that failed in Congress last week in the Senate because of Republican opposition. Bush made no mention of this fight, but in stepping in as he is, the president risks angering conservatives in his party but the administration felt it had no choice given the fragile state of the economy. 


In doing so, Treasury decided not to be tied to the initial bill in Congress that provided only $14 billion in loans. That was always viewed as inadequate to get to March 31, and the administration opted to go with more realistic numbers.

In doing so, however, it sets up a ticklish situation for Democrats in the new Congress. With the auto bailout, Treasury will have tapped out all of the first $350 billion from the financial markets rescue fund by late January. That means Democrats must deal with releasing the second $350 billion even as Obama will be trying to rally support for a large economic stimulus bill.

On the Republican side, the real dividing point between the administration and bailout critics in Congress has had more to do with the conditions imposed on the loans not the aid itself.

These differences came to a head in the Senate over the question of how to treat the United Auto Workers, and what pressure should be put on the union to bring down wage levels to match those paid to non-UAW workers at US plants operated by Honda or Toyota for example.

Senate Republican conservatives insisted that the UAW agree to specific wage adjustments by a date certain in 2009. When the union rejected this demand as political, Republicans killed the bill.

The White House agreed that wage concessions would be needed but thought the better test should be the viability of the companies not some fixed formula imposed on management and the union. There was real discomfort in the administration with what many saw as a regional, anti-union slant as Republicans from the South where non-UAW, foreign owned plants are more common demanded concessions that jeopardized aid to an industry so vital to much of the Midwest.

Thus the loan agreements drafted by Treasury take a more flexible approach. There are Restructuring Targets to be met in the companies recovery plans, including moving to a more competitive wage structure by the end of 2009. But there is also some leeway if alternative savings can be found. The restructuring report due March 31 shall identify any deviations from the Restructuring Targets and explain the rationale for these deviations, including an explanation of why such deviations do not jeopardize the Borrowers long-term viability.

In explaining his decision Friday, Bush said holding back "would leave the next president to confront the demise of a major American industry in his first days of office.



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