Do ya'all take people's cars home and drive them around while their cars are in the shop for repair and service ?
Reason I ask is that did happen to me once years ago. The mechanic's wife needed a car and drove mine for about a week!
My neighbor owns an auto repair and service shop, also restores old cars. Well, his wife drives around in those cars all the time. That big fat bitch is driving somebody else's car every day.!.
Only on very rare occasions will I drive a customer's car home, and it's only for a legitimate purpose like trying to verify an intermittent concern.
Now back at a previous dealership we had the program where we fixed all of Ford's lemon law buybacks in a 5 state area before they went to auction... Those things I drove all the time, but they were owned by Ford at that point.
You may need to find a new mechanic if that's going on with your vehicle.
My BIL owns a used car dealership in Tulsa. Those used cars he sells all come from car auctions. That SOB is filthy Rich!
Hes making so much money he gives vans away to needy people quite a bit. The guy hasnt worked in years...hes too busy raking in all his $$$$ traveling the world.
When PowerStroker takes a car on a test drive it's only around the lake and only to look at boobies... After that he will start to diagnose your cars problem..
I once had a dealership send me home with 3 Cadillacs on a regular basis to verify intermittent problems... I'd have to find people to drive brand new Cadillacs!
It was a pain in the ass, worrying all the time.
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I get a kick out of the Chevy dealer when I take the Corvette C5 anniversary model in. Once the window actuator, once for a new key fob. They always have to drive it. Others drive their own car in right next to the parts counter, pretty cool. Someone wants to drive mine in! Body shop foe the window activator. I'm in a waiting room a few hundred feet away. Boss man shows up with my keys, "I have a bad back, had to drive your car up here" Then smiles. They crap that it's a 6 speed manual trans, "we never see manuals, always autos" Showroom called me once trying to buy it.
Yes but I might add, Hasle, that I have been specialty certified since 1994 (half way thru 1993) to work on ALL vehicles, including Fords...
I began at an aftermarket shop in 1996, but my hisotry prior to the dealership seems irrelevant to me since the capabilities of aftermarket shops are infantile.
Exactly who certified you to work on Fords? Are you saying you are certified by the manufacturer to do warranty work? Or just certified by ASE or the like?
I used to be an ASE master, and I recertified with them a few times until I realized that all they do is sell tests that anyone can pass in order to become "certified" and give the illusion of competence. I let all of my ASE's expire.
Yes but I might add, Hasle, that I have been specialty certified since 1994 (half way thru 1993) to work on ALL vehicles, including Fords...
I began at an aftermarket shop in 1996, but my hisotry prior to the dealership seems irrelevant to me since the capabilities of aftermarket shops are infantile.
Exactly who certified you to work on Fords? Are you saying you are certified by the manufacturer to do warranty work? Or just certified by ASE or the like?
I used to be an ASE master, and I recertified with them a few times until I realized that all they do is sell tests that anyone can pass in order to become "certified" and give the illusion of competence. I let all of my ASE's expire.
I'm sorry PowerStroker but Fords aren't no technical marvel... In fact they are designed to ensure their customers will spend more to repair them than just purchasing another vehicle, which is the way Fords want's it. It's called engineered obsoleteion and Fords is very well known for it. From their throw away cars to their luxury cars and even their heavy duty trucks - if you drive a Ford you know it's time for a new car shortly after the warranty ends - unless you have a good mechanic like me!
With regards to warranty work, if I do warranty repairs on a Ford vehicle under warranty because the customer does not like the attitude or wait time at the dealership, then YES, Ford has to re-imburse my customer for the warranty repairs that were performed by me, the certified mechanic. In fact PowerStroker, with all your Ford and ASE certifications - if you were to come here to Michigan, NONE OF THEM WOULD ALLOW YOU TO PERFORM REPAIRS FOR COMPENSATION until you took the test that I have passed. So stick that in your dealership pipe and smoke it buddy! I will agree with you that for the first 5 years (usually the duration of the warranty) Ford's keeps a lot of it's information and computer access limited, but we still crack that $hit! Companies like Fords and the likes have all been required to adhere to the OBD-II standards and I think in time you will see expansions on this regulation as companies like Fords work to circumvent it in this modern age.
I don't blame you for letting your ASE certifications expire because most states don't accept ASE as a certification to become a registered mechanic performing repairs for compensation in their state.
And lastly, I am certified by the State of Michigan to perform repairs on Fords and any other motor vehicle currently registered for use on Michigan roads and highways. My certification has embossed the great seal of the state of Michigan, which also happens to be the state that Fords is headquartered. If that wasn't enough, PowerStroker, everyone who works at Fords here in Michigan (as a mechanic) must also pass the state test.
So there you have it.
-- Edited by SELLC on Saturday 19th of May 2018 08:18:02 PM
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I began at an aftermarket shop in 1996, but my history prior to the dealership seems irrelevant to me since, the capabilities of aftermarket shops are infantile.
Yo,
Too bad about you not liking the regular "Gas-station" work-shops as opposed to the dealerships. I found that the dealerships were fine, except that you only dealt with new-car issues & warranties, but never got to explore the problems like failed rear wheel bearings, & / suspension components / bushes etc etc...
In fact, here in Oz, dealerships would limit the amount you learned so that you wouldn't go out, & open your own business with "their" secret knowledge lol, ( at least where I spent my time )...
This said, I did learn more about my trade in the "Gas-station" workshops, as you repaired "everything" that came through the door, meaning all makes & models. And it was rewarding to gain "some" competence of diagnosis on all makes & models. And once you revealed some of your acquired knowledge with your co-workers, they shared some back too. ( A little like this place here ).
It's all relative however IMO, as now-days, everything is throw-away, where parts & labor costs to repair a perfectly fine vehicle are out-weighed by the markets devaluation of the said vehicle...
I agree with SELLC that companies spend millions designing a car, & then spending millions more incorporating faults that will ultimately cause you to pass-it-on to the trade, whilst you up-grade to the next de-designed modern piece-of-crap lol !
The bottom line IMO is to find a happy workplace, do the jobs that are asked, get paid, & enjoy your time away from the place.
The UK has stated that only Electric Cars will be available for purchase from 2040, so it would be a wise move to study-up on current hybrids & some electrotechnology. The US-of-A will surely follow this trend too IMO, unless we have another Bush elected, or run out of oil LOL !
Cheers,
Rastus
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Rex, are you telling me that Ford Motor Company has been reimbursing YOU for warranty repairs just like one of their dealerships???
I've never heard of such a thing except in the case of huge fleets like rental car companies that are under specific contract with Ford, have been issued a dealer code, have had their technicians complete several hundred hours of Ford training, and have spent a few hundred grand on the special tooling.
What's your P&A code bro?
Mind posting a pic of one of your reimbursement checks?
-- Edited by PowerStroker on Sunday 20th of May 2018 12:15:16 AM
The checks are not issued to me, the customer has to pay me and then seek re-imbursement by Fords.
I have been re-imbursed by Fords once as part of a class action lawsuit pertaining to a faulty ICM on my 1991 Ford Mustang 5.0 but these are different circumstances.
In most cases I highly advise customers go to Fords to have their warranty work done, however it is well known that in the case that Fords is unable to service a customers vehicle under warranty that they will re-imburse for the repairs a customer has done elsewhere. It's not guaranteed that Fords will re-imbuse the customer however the customer does have the option to sue to recover and depending on the circumstances, could force Fords to re-imburse if they failed to meet their warranty obligations.
I do not work for Ford Motor Company, Ford Motor Company works for me, Braw...
I think PowerStroker is a good mechanic, and I love to rattle his FoMoCo cage...
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I'd also like to say that Ford Motor Company makes a fine vehicle with a unique and rewarding ride feel.
All cars break, but it would seem in Ford's case they really could make a car last much longer if they wanted to. See many Fords peel way past the 200,000 mark, some with the original spark plugs!
But I also love to complain about Fords as it's a love / hate relationship. Many of older Fords kick my ass on a daily basis but their owners love em' and are some of the most loyal customers that are usually trying to keep an old Ford on the road for their kids. I get reports that many Ford dealers are several weeks turn around and maybe more during peek seasons, at least that is what I am told when the come to see me.
I've owned Fords... I'm a Mustang guy, even if the Mustang I own can fit in the attic. Yes I have a 1991 Ford Mustang LX Notchback chunk, in emerald green, the most important chunk - the one with the vin tag and a legitimate title that I use to keep my Mustang cravings at bay... One day I may rebuild that car, or maybe I won't.. Doesn't matter, it's a place holder for a vehicle I once had a lot of fun driving... Even if the rear end did pull itself away from the frame! Fords should have anticipated that I would install a dual stage 500 HP nitrous kit and 10.5 wrinkle wall slicks with south side machine lift bars and made battle boxes factory issue on the 5.0 Mustang! Especially back in 1991 when their engines came from the factory with forged pistons. What did they think the customer was going to do with forged pistons? Stay NA?
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So, Ford has made a lot of changes. Does this mean if my tire pressure is low it wont tell me anymore?
Sync my ride was kind of nice, didnt last long. One of the main reasons I was attracted to the car was the paint. Its Shiney black with a tinge of colorful sparkles.
I guess its ok by me...where Im going you only need a boat and golf cart. Yaall will have to visit me if you ever get to
Panama City Beach on vaca
