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What China doesn't know about Tariffs and the effects of it's actions.


Been reading all kinds of garbage on the internet lately about China and the impending trade war. Take for example, this article -

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-is-on-a-much-bigger-mission-than-winning-the-trade-war-2018-8

Now if you read it you can tell that the author really has no idea what to think and appears to be scarred! Countless authors like the one above all do the same thing - which is to speculate on issues they know very little about. Thru their articles they try and instill a level of fear that undermines our very objective. Yet they will admit almost unanimously the dangerous path China is taking and their long held beliefs that the rules everyone else must follow do not apply to them.

Time and again we hear about American companies complaining about what this means for them, and how they want to tap the market in China. I say we screw all these companies and let them move to China! It ridiculous that they steal everything that gets made there, and any intellectual property that makes its way to China ends up for sale on the black market under-cutting the business who thinks they are saving big money on labor cost. These companies are really quite confused and conflicted, Apple and Tim Cook especially. I'd imagine it's the reason Tim Cook and President Trump keep having lunch - because Cook and Apple are in the crosshairs. This problem is a making of Apple, when they started moving production to China - so really I don't feel any company that elected to pick up and move to China should be getting any sympathy for what amounts to "crapping out" on their speculative and long distance business arrangements that have come home to roost.

But perhaps what China does not know is this, the Trade war is going to heat up exponentially once the tariffs start getting felt by the consumer. Already businesses that buy large amounts of steel and aluminum have noticed the pinch. But there will be a breaking point where American business will have no choice but to withdraw from China as their dealings with China will appear more and more treasonous as they make concessions for China that they never would for the Americans who built and allowed their companies to become giants. China is going to learn, just like Detroit - what a few years of inactivity can do to their manufacturing base... As people are laid off, equipment gets misplaced, machines get rusty and workforces start to feel the pinch so will China... America knows what it means to have a few years of down time and the results are devastating to industrial communities! 

Meanwhile, in America the opportunity to fill China's vacuum for what many would consider to be inexpensive and cheap products will result in more American made goods at prices that are even less than imported and heavily taxed Chinese goods that are historically known to be made as cheaply as possible to encourage the customer to re-purchase the item sometime later. This level of poor quality is expected with cheap dollar store items that are almost always disposable in nature. 

What I can't understand is why Trump is playing around... He has less than two years before the next election and this tit for tat tariff game is not impressing anyone. I think it's time he tells Tim Cook at lunch that this years iPhone may run into some issues and that if next years iPhone isn't 100% made in the USA, that it's possible Apple will find itself with no product to sell in the 2019 September cycle! I am sure Apple already has most if not all of it's phones secured for this years September roll out, but it's quite obvious that no efforts to put the clamps on China have really been cemented - thus he is just playing around and wasting time... At one time Americans refused to support China's one-way attitude and in return they sent us some of the cheapest $hit we have ever seen... Rubber dog $hit, matchbox cars, and fly swatters all of a sudden turned into toxic dog food and high tech electronics. Factories even started boating all of their equipment over there and laying off massive amounts of people who would no longer have a job - for better or worse. Yet these greedy companies can't get their thick heads around the fact that they will only do as well in China as China wants them to... Once competition in America is eliminated the prices rise and the venerable US company gets smacked down by the Chinese Government to make way for a Chinese company that is producing the exact same thing, using the exact same technology the American companies handed over to China for the privilege of access to their army of slave labor. Serves them all right if you ask me!

So it's entirely possible we will see some American businesses that are heavily invested in China that will be showing signs of stress soon, and in my opinion we should let them fail to set an example of what happens when you put all your manufacturing eggs in a communistic basket.



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What I can't understand is why Trump is playing around... He has less than two years before the next election, and this tit for tat tariff game is not impressing anyone.


 

I guess China can wait for the next President.

I suggest their main interest lay with US-of-A military presence in the China sea...



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But that's my point, in waiting they could really suffer losses... That is why I can't figure out what Trump is waiting for.

A lot can happen in 6 years!



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Chinese market (HSI) closed -430 in the drink today...

It's been nothing but a bloodbath on the market with incremental gains here and there as those with deep pockets swoop it all back up.



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China is back on its crack cocaine.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/china-says-trade-talks-u-085227061.html

Equals? LOL!

These silly bastards dont even understand that the people of China want to come live here, and not the other way around! Who wants to live under communist rule? Idiots and Liberals, thats who!



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China is back on its crack cocaine...

Who wants to live under communist rule ?... - Idiots and Liberals, that's who!


 

ROTFLMAO !



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HSI - 26,635.01

DOW - 26,828.39

------ As of the time of this writing!

ROTFLMAO!



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China is back on its crack cocaine.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/china-says-trade-talks-u-085227061.html

Equals? LOL!

These silly bastards dont even understand that the people of China want to come live here, and not the other way around! Who wants to live under communist rule? Idiots and Liberals, thats who!


 

How long before the good people of China start taking a page from the book of Hong Kong?



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China is back on its crack cocaine.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/china-says-trade-talks-u-085227061.html

Equals? LOL!

These silly bastards dont even understand that the people of China want to come live here, and not the other way around! Who wants to live under communist rule? Idiots and Liberals, thats who!


 

How long before the good people of China start taking a page from the book of Hong Kong?


 

Well SELLC,

IMO, war is brewing big-time...WW-III could be not-so-far away.

Little Oz has had a visit from some US-of-A officials, reminding us of our 100-year history fighting for our liberties & freedoms...

And now, little Oz is asking for our mandatory ( by international law ) 3-month supply of fuel stocks, of which we have only 28-days worth in reserve.

There'll be some tankers rolling in soon I'd guess...( I wonder if there'll be a job for Rastus maybe ) ?...

I would have loved to have been a fly-on-the-wall at the last Bilderberg meeting !

Here's list of attendees....

https://coercioncode.com/2019/05/29/bilderberg-2019-agenda-and-participants-list/



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You are right that war is coming, at this very moment China is literally forming ARMIES of police and riot police to go in and wipe out the good people of Hong Kong who are thumbing their nose at China's communistic rule!

It's not hard to see the people of Hong Kong prefer their previous British Colony and have become accustom to at least a modicum of the freedoms that the poor people of North Korea and China have never known! In fact this is the very reason that China wants to stomp out Hong Kong so badly and so quickly, because should ever the people of China (billions) ever get the wise idea to do the same - it's curtains for Communist China! 

War may already be here Rastus! 



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This is going on right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzLPSm0m5uw



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If the people of Hong Kong were smart, they would watch these videos and figure out the chinks in their armor/training because I am pretty sure they are coming!

 



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Here y'all go...

This is the come-back from state-side rural folks to Mr.Trumpdt, & the issues that are hitting them because of this trade-war.

Fair "is" fair, so please take a read, & tally the result in fair contemplation of decisions that are made by the wrong people in the job.

www.counterpunch.org/2019/08/15/ominous-signs-from-the-hinterlands/

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Fair IS fair Rastus! 

And if you recall a short while back I took a look around with a clean pair of eyes to see who was the best to lead this country. I watched all the Democrat offerings and even one Republican challenger and ALL OF THEM COME UP SHORT!

While I might not agree with Trump 100%, if you are American you can not deny he is pro American 100%. This probably does not sit well with people in other countries, and it probably doesn't sit well with the many people in America who don't have our best interest at heart... However currently there is not one other person running for POTUS that could compete with Trump. 

And look, China IS starting to feel the pinch!

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/china-august-exports-unexpectedly-shrink-033956881.html

It is working!



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Well, the "West" has always been a collection of countries with similarish life-styles, that combine together at need, to combat the land-grabs of "Communist" nations, like China & what was Russia...

When combined, "the West" has significant numbers to defend its ideals.

When divided, we open the doors to predators...

Mr.Trumpdt seems to forget that with us all, he's part of a combined world-wide effort in leading humanity to a better way of life & living in general.This should be his core belief, & where his decision-making leads us.

At the moment, the "West" stands to fall, because Mr.Trumpdt want's his lolly-pop not made in China.

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How long before the good people of China start taking a page from the book of Hong Kong?


 

It is already starting! 

Hong Kong Democracy Slogans Heard at Mainland Chinese Protest: Report

https://time.com/5742165/maoming-protest-hong-kong/

The people of Hong Kong are starting something that is catching on in China... 

How much longer are the Chinese people to allow themselves to be policed by the most oppressive surveillance in the world!?

How much longer are the Chinese people going to give up their privacy and rights to a free internet!?

Already it's being said that everyone in China who buys a new phone must have an AI facial scan, in addition to a facial scan each and every time they access the internet!



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Let's hope no tanks are involved.

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It's just a matter of time before Communist China falls... How much more it's going to take for the people of China to say enough is enough is yet to be seen.... however I am pretty sure that if/when that does happen they will come at the uprising with a lot more than just tanks!



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