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How much is this bogus Russian collusion fishing expedition REALLY costing the American Tax Payers!?


I thought we should get into how much money this two year fishing expedition is costing Americans...

1st off, I voted for Trump and no Russian convinced me to do so... That being said this bogus fishing expedition serves only to keep people like Holder, Comey, Lynch, Rice, Clintons and Obamas from getting their day in court. Many people feel that these people crossed the line with their tarmac meetings, illegally unmasking and using intelligence agencies to fix an election, lying, cheating and outright treason in some peoples minds! It blows my mind that these criminals are walking free without being under any form of investigation while our current sitting President who was freely elected is literally being prosecuted while in office for bogus offenses!

How much do you think this circus sideshow that has been allowed to continue under AG Sessions, Rothenstein and Mueller cost the American people? Well we already know its costing well over $100 million dollars because that much they have admitted... But what has this clownery cost us overseas? Dont you think that this absurd fishing expedition is giving other countries the feeling that they dont have to respect Trump? That maybe they will just hold out and Trump will somehow be fired or removed from office? 

Over the course of two years and all of the distractions in that time I think this fishing expedition has cost this nation almost a Trillion dollars by now! Having a sitting President investigated like this is an absolute joke! It makes our President appear to be a paper bull! Unlike other countries we have term limits here, and a 4 year check / balance system so the office of the President should not be impeded during a Presidents Tenure, especially in this way! 

I am willing to bet that had Trump clamped down on this BS from the start, and had people in his office prosecuting the past Administration that China, Russia and many others would have had much more respect for Trump and probably wouldnt have tried him so much. Trump has to walk around like a dog with his tail between his legs during this otherwise unprecedented fishing expedition. And for what? Because Democrats lost the election? 

I just dont understand it... and I damn sure dont want this setting precedent that its just okay to open fishing expeditions on Americans like what has been done to Trump! If they do it to him, they damn sure would do it to you! 

I really think this is costing us more than a trillion dollars, as we wont be getting back the time that has been wasted and that is more precious than the money!



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1.1st off, I voted for Trump and no Russian convinced me to do so...

2. It blows my mind that these criminals are walking free without being under any form of investigation, while our current sitting President, who was freely elected, is literally being prosecuted while in office for bogus offenses!

3. Don't you think that this absurd fishing expedition is giving other countries the feeling that they don't have to respect Trump?

4. That maybe they will just hold out and Trump will somehow be fired or removed from office? 

5. Trump has to walk around like a dog with his tail between his legs during this otherwise unprecedented fishing expedition.

6. And for what? Because Democrats lost the election? 

7. If they do it to him, they damn sure they would do it to you!


 LOL !!!

R1. It's your right & freedom of choice !!! (Were you ever going to cast your vote to Hillary lol ) !!! Sadly, it seems you had no other choice either...

R2. They're only trying to prove how much was bogus, that's all. No doubt, the Democrats have some issues too, which brings us back to "who else did you have to choose from" ? And besides, when I see what GWB got away with, I'd say neither party has anything to worry about.

R3. I can only speak for myself here, & I couldn't give a ***k. A fool is a fool, & if that's how you're seeing your Prez, then other countries may too.

R4. I doubt it. It's just a smoke-screen so you aren't thinking about other poor decisions being made of late, like Yucca Mountain, Hanford, Space Force etc etc...

R5. Really ?...Woof woof  lol ! ( The last I saw, he looked a little like Darth Vader )...

R6. No, because he may have illegally stole the election, just like GWB did in 2004...

R7. No doubt here SELLC, ***k'n-A !!!



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I thought we should get into how much money this two year fishing expedition is costing Americans...

It's a tiny fraction of what the debt financed tax cuts for billionares is costing us.

1st off, I voted for Trump and no Russian convinced me to do so...

You have prejudices in your DNA, and are therefore one of the people who didn't require any Russian disinformation. You had plenty of your own disinformation, so congratulations on that I guess!

That being said this bogus fishing expedition serves only to keep people like Holder, Comey, Lynch, Rice, Clintons and Obamas from getting their day in court. Many people feel that these people crossed the line with their tarmac meetings, illegally unmasking and using intelligence agencies to fix an election, lying, cheating and outright treason in some peoples minds! It blows my mind that these criminals are walking free without being under any form of investigation while our current sitting President who was freely elected is literally being prosecuted while in office for bogus offenses!

Republicans were in charge of the FBI at the time, and are still in complete control of the Justice Department. They have made a determination, and you are free to take it up with them, they are your people after all.

How much do you think this circus sideshow that has been allowed to continue under AG Sessions, Rothenstein and Mueller cost the American people? Well we already know its costing well over $100 million dollars because that much they have admitted... But what has this clownery cost us overseas? Dont you think that this absurd fishing expedition is giving other countries the feeling that they dont have to respect Trump? That maybe they will just hold out and Trump will somehow be fired or removed from office? 

Trumps actions are why they don't respect him, not the investigation in to his campaign's ties to Russia.

Over the course of two years and all of the distractions in that time I think this fishing expedition has cost this nation almost a Trillion dollars by now!

This coming from a guy who probably still thinks one of Obama's trips cost enough to double the national debt, sigh.

Having a sitting President investigated like this is an absolute joke! It makes our President appear to be a paper bull! Unlike other countries we have term limits here, and a 4 year check / balance system so the office of the President should not be impeded during a Presidents Tenure, especially in this way! 

You didn't feel the same about Clinton did you? How about Nixon?

I am willing to bet that had Trump clamped down on this BS from the start, and had people in his office prosecuting the past Administration that China, Russia and many others would have had much more respect for Trump and probably wouldnt have tried him so much. Trump has to walk around like a dog with his tail between his legs during this otherwise unprecedented fishing expedition. And for what? Because Democrats lost the election? 

Obama would have been well within his right to prosecute George W. Bush for war crimes, but he took the high road.

I just dont understand it... and I damn sure dont want this setting precedent that its just okay to open fishing expeditions on Americans like what has been done to Trump! If they do it to him, they damn sure would do it to you! 

The U.S. President isn't a king, and is subject to oversight.

I really think this is costing us more than a trillion dollars, as we wont be getting back the time that has been wasted and that is more precious than the money!

I know the same to be true of Trump's presidency.

 



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I just dont understand it... and I damn sure dont want this setting precedent that its just okay to open fishing expeditions on Americans like what has been done to Trump! If they do it to him, they damn sure would do it to you! 

The U.S. President isn't a king, and is subject to oversight.

 

 


 

I agree! Obama and ALL of his supporters and cabinet should be made to pay back the $20 trillion they wasted! Also, all of them should be investigated and brought up on charges of high crime!

If we were to be at war right now, over 80% of the Democrats would be subject to treason charges with the way they are talking and acting... I say we dont wait for war - do it now!

There comes a time when the spoiled brats who cut off their noses to spite their faces are made to carry the weight of their cross. That time is fast coming for you and your Democrat obstructionist friends who are advocating outright treason. Shame on you PowerStroker and shame on you too Rastus! You both better wise up before its too late!



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Obama didn't create our 20 Trillion national debt. He contributed to it, but it began under the Reagan administration. The Bush wars and Trump tax cuts just put it on steroids though.

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Yeah he contributed alright, about tripled it.

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Eh, no Shawnee... IIRC it was proven that Obama spent more than ALL of the other Presidents before him COMBINED!



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Please back up your claims boys.

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SELLC wrote:
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The U.S. President isn't a king, and is subject to oversight.

 

 


 

There comes a time when the spoiled brats who cut off their noses to spite their faces are made to carry the weight of their cross.


 

Yes !



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Eh, no Shawnee... IIRC it was proven that Obama spent more than ALL of the other Presidents before him COMBINED!


 Yes from 6 bil after GW gone up to 20 bil. For what? Iran deal? Arm terrorists? Certainly did enough of that. Terrorists got more and better weapons than our own military.



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If we take a look at this chart (and assume it came from a nonpartisan source), we will see that when Obama took office in 2009 we already had a national debt of $12.311 Trillion. Now, we should factor the truth that just as a massive barge cannot stop on a dime, neither can expensive policies like wars that began under a prior administration. The Iraq and Afghanistan wars alone I would ballpark estimate at about $3-4 Trillion when you factor in everything including veterans benefits that must be paid out for life. Since those were started under the Bush administration, I think it would be fair to say that the actual debt load inherited by Obama was more in the range of $16 Trillion even though about 3-4 of it wasn't spent by him, just spent during his watch by preexisting policies. That leaves about $4 Trillion that could actually be attributed to Obama administration policies, and I would argue that much of that was necessary debt financed stimulus spending in order to dig us out of the great recession he also inherited. 


 



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That leaves about $4 Trillion that could actually be attributed to Obama administration policies, and I would argue that much of that was necessary debt financed stimulus spending in order to dig us out of the great recession he also inherited. 


 


 Good & valid points !

War isn't cheap ! And that Oil-Pipeline in Iraq needs constant military presence to keep it flowing smoothly...( No weapons of mass destruction or Osama was found here either BTW )...( But we did use some top-secret weapon on the locals, & managed to keep UN inspectors out for a full 6-weeks whist we cleaned-up our uranium based effluent mess )...

So taxpayers not only pay for a war they don't want, but they pay big $$$ for fuel at the gas station too back at home...

Who owns the oil ?...( GWB & associates maybe ?... Like cough, cough Bechtel & others, cough, cough Haliburton, cough, cough Carlyle group & on & on... )...

 



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The New York Times

White House Counsel Has Cooperated Extensively With Muellers Obstruction Inquiry

 
By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT and MAGGIE HABERMAN

WASHINGTON The White House counsel, Donald F. McGahn II, has cooperated extensively in the special counsel investigation, sharing detailed accounts about the episodes at the heart of the inquiry into whether President Trump obstructed justice, including some that investigators would not have learned of otherwise, according to a dozen current and former White House officials and others briefed on the matter.

In at least three voluntary interviews with investigators that totaled 30 hours over the past nine months, Mr. McGahn described the presidents furor toward the Russia investigation and the ways in which he urged Mr. McGahn to respond to it. He provided the investigators examining whether Mr. Trump obstructed justice a clear view of the presidents most intimate moments with his lawyer.

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Among them were Mr. Trumps comments and actions during the firing of the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, and Mr. Trumps obsession with putting a loyalist in charge of the inquiry, including his repeated urging of Attorney General Jeff Sessions to claim oversight of it. Mr. McGahn was also centrally involved in Mr. Trumps attempts to fire the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, which investigators might not have discovered without him.

For a lawyer to share so much with investigators scrutinizing his client is unusual. Lawyers are rarely so open with investigators, not only because they are advocating on behalf of their clients but also because their conversations with clients are potentially shielded by attorney-client privilege, and in the case of presidents, executive privilege.

A prosecutor would kill for that, said Solomon L. Wisenberg, a deputy independent counsel in the Whitewater investigation, which did not have the same level of cooperation from President Bill Clintons lawyers. Oh my God, it would have been phenomenally helpful to us. It would have been like having the keys to the kingdom.

Mr. McGahns cooperation began in part as a result of a decision by Mr. Trumps first team of criminal lawyers to collaborate fully with Mr. Mueller. The presidents lawyers have explained that they believed their client had nothing to hide and that they could bring the investigation to an end quickly.

Mr. McGahn and his lawyer, William A. Burck, could not understand why Mr. Trump was so willing to allow Mr. McGahn to speak freely to the special counsel and feared Mr. Trump was setting up Mr. McGahn to take the blame for any possible illegal acts of obstruction, according to people close to him. So he and Mr. Burck devised their own strategy to do as much as possible to cooperate with Mr. Mueller to demonstrate that Mr. McGahn did nothing wrong.

It is not clear that Mr. Trump appreciates the extent to which Mr. McGahn has cooperated with the special counsel. The president wrongly believed that Mr. McGahn would act as a personal lawyer would for clients and solely defend his interests to investigators, according to a person with knowledge of his thinking.

In fact, Mr. McGahn laid out how Mr. Trump tried to ensure control of the investigation, giving investigators a mix of information both potentially damaging and favorable to the president. Mr. McGahn cautioned to investigators that he never saw Mr. Trump go beyond his legal authorities, though the limits of executive power are murky.

Mr. McGahns role as a cooperating witness further strains his already complicated relationship with the president. Though Mr. Trump has fought with Mr. McGahn as much as with any of his top aides, White House advisers have said, both men have benefited significantly from their partnership.

Mr. McGahn has overseen two of Mr. Trumps signature accomplishments  stocking the federal courts and cutting government regulations  and become a champion of conservatives in the process.

But the two rarely speak one on one the White House chief of staff, John F. Kelly, and other advisers are usually present for their meetings and Mr. Trump has questioned Mr. McGahns loyalty. In turn, Mr. Trumps behavior has so exasperated Mr. McGahn that he has called the president King Kong behind his back, to connote his volcanic anger, people close to Mr. McGahn said.

This account is based on interviews with current and former White House officials and others who have spoken to both men, all of whom requested anonymity to discuss a sensitive investigation.

Through Mr. Burck, Mr. McGahn declined to comment. A spokesman for the special counsels office also declined to comment for this article.

Asked for comment, the White House sought to quell the sense of tension.

The president and Don have a great relationship, the White House press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, said in a statement. He appreciates all the hard work hes done, particularly his help and expertise with the judges, and the Supreme Court nominees.

The president stressed that the White House had been cooperative with the investigation, tweeting on Saturday evening after this article was published that Mr. McGahn had been allowed to speak to the special counsel.

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I allowed White House Counsel Don McGahn, and all other requested members of the White House Staff, to fully cooperate with the Special Counsel. In addition we readily gave over one million pages of documents. Most transparent in history. No Collusion, No Obstruction. Witch Hunt!

 

Mr. McGahns route from top White House lawyer to a central witness in the obstruction investigation of the president began around the time that Mr. Mueller took over the investigation into whether any Trump associates conspired with Russias interference in the presidential election.

When Mr. Mueller was appointed in May 2017, the lawyers surrounding the president realigned themselves. Mr. McGahn and other White House lawyers stopped dealing on a day-to-day basis with the investigation, as they realized they were potential witnesses in an obstruction case.

In the following weeks, Mr. Trump assembled a personal legal team to defend him. He wanted to take on Mr. Mueller directly, attacking his credibility and impeding investigators. But two of his newly hired lawyers, John M. Dowd and Ty Cobb, have said they took Mr. Trump at his word that he did nothing wrong and sold him on an open-book strategy. As long as Mr. Trump and the White House cooperated with Mr. Mueller, they told him, they could bring an end to the investigation within months.

Mr. McGahn, who had objected to Mr. Cobbs hiring, was dubious, according to people he spoke to around that time. As White House counsel, not a personal lawyer, he viewed his role as protector of the presidency, not of Mr. Trump. Allowing a special counsel to root around the West Wing could set a precedent harmful to future administrations.

But he had little ability to intervene. His relationship with the president had soured as Mr. Trump blamed him for a number of fraught moments in his first months in office, including the chaotic, failed early attempts at a ban on travelers from some majority-Muslim countries and, in particular, the existence of Mr. Muellers investigation.

The son of a Treasury Department investigator, Mr. McGahn, 50, briefly attended the Naval Academy before transferring to Notre Dame, graduating in 1991. He attended Widener Universitys Commonwealth Law School in Pennsylvania, then came to Washington and climbed the ranks of the Republican establishment, alternating between private firms and a stint on the Federal Election Commission.

Mr. McGahn joined the Trump team as an early hire said to like the candidates outsider position. His lack of a degree from a top law school bothered Mr. Trump, but the candidate saw that Mr. McGahn was respected by most of his peers, according to veteran party strategists.

Though he was a senior campaign aide, it is not clear whether Mr. Muellers investigators have questioned Mr. McGahn about whether Trump associates coordinated with Russias effort to influence the election.

Mr. McGahns decision to cooperate with the special counsel grew out of Mr. Dowds and Mr. Cobbs game plan, now seen as misguided by some close to the president.

Last fall, Mr. Muellers office asked to interview Mr. McGahn. To the surprise of the White House Counsels Office, Mr. Trump and his lawyers signaled that they had no objection, without knowing the extent of what Mr. McGahn was going to tell investigators.

Mr. McGahn was stunned, as was Mr. Burck, whom he had recently hired out of concern that he needed help to stay out of legal jeopardy, according to people close to Mr. McGahn. Mr. Burck has explained to others that he told White House advisers that they did not appreciate the presidents legal exposure and that it was insane that Mr. Trump did not fight a McGahn interview in court.

Even if the president did nothing wrong, Mr. Burck told White House lawyers, the White House has to understand that a client like Mr. Trump probably made politically damaging statements to Mr. McGahn as he weighed whether to intervene in the Russia investigation.

Inside the counsels office, lawyers feared that on the recommendation of Mr. Dowd and Mr. Cobb, the White House was handing Mr. Mueller detailed instructions to take down the president and setting a troubling precedent for future administrations by giving up executive privilege.

At the same time, Mr. Trump was blaming Mr. McGahn for his legal woes, yet encouraging him to speak to investigators. Mr. McGahn and his lawyer grew suspicious. They began telling associates that they had concluded that the president had decided to let Mr. McGahn take the fall for decisions that could be construed as obstruction of justice, like the Comey firing, by telling the special counsel that he was only following shoddy legal advice from Mr. McGahn.

Worried that Mr. Trump would ultimately blame him in the inquiry, Mr. McGahn told people he was determined to avoid the fate of the White House counsel for President Richard M. Nixon, John W. Dean, who pleaded guilty to conspiracy to obstruct justice in the Watergate scandal.

Mr. McGahn decided to fully cooperate with Mr. Mueller. It was, he believed, the only choice he had to protect himself.

This sure has echoes of Richard Nixons White House counsel, John Dean, who in 1973 feared that Nixon was setting him up as a fall guy for Watergate and secretly gave investigators crucial help while still in his job, said the historian Michael Beschloss.

Mr. Trumps lawyers still had a chance to keep Mr. McGahns insider knowledge from the special counsel. By exerting attorney-client privilege, which allows the president to legally withhold information, they would have gained the right to learn what Mr. McGahn planned to tell investigators and what he might reveal that could damage the president. But the presidents lawyers never went through that process, although they told people that they believed they still had the ability to stop Mr. Mueller from handing over to Congress the accounts of witnesses like Mr. McGahn and others.

Mr. Mueller has told the presidents lawyers that he will follow Justice Department guidance that sitting presidents cannot be indicted. Rather than charge Mr. Trump if he finds evidence of wrongdoing, he is more likely to write a report that can be sent to Congress for lawmakers to consider impeachment proceedings.

Unencumbered, Mr. Burck and Mr. McGahn met the special counsel team in November for the first time and shared all that Mr. McGahn knew.

To investigators, Mr. McGahn was a fruitful witness, people familiar with the investigation said. He had been directly involved in nearly every episode they are scrutinizing to determine whether the president obstructed justice. To make an obstruction case, prosecutors who lack a piece of slam-dunk evidence generally point to a range of actions that prove that the suspect tried to interfere with the inquiry.

Mr. McGahn gave to Mr. Muellers investigators, the people said, a sense of the presidents mind-set in the days leading to the firing of Mr. Comey; how the White House handled the firing of the former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn; and how Mr. Trump repeatedly berated Mr. Sessions, tried to get him to assert control over the investigation and threatened to fire him.

Despite the Trump lawyers insistence that cooperation would help end the inquiry, the investigation only intensified as last year came to a close. Mr. Mueller had charged Mr. Trumps former campaign chairman and his deputy and won guilty pleas and cooperation agreements from his first national security adviser and a campaign adviser.

Mr. Dowd said that cooperation was the right approach but that Mr. Mueller had snookered Mr. Trumps legal team. The White House has handed over more than one million documents and allowed more than two dozen administration officials to meet with Mr. Mueller in the belief that he would be forced to conclude there was no obstruction case.

It was an extraordinary cooperation more cooperation than in any major case no president has ever been more cooperative than this, Mr. Dowd said, adding that Mr. Mueller knew as far back as October, when he received many White House documents, that the president did not break the law.

As the months passed on, it became apparent that Mr. McGahn and Mr. Burck had overestimated the amount of thought that they believed the president put into his legal strategy. Rather than placing the blame on Mr. McGahn for possible acts of obstruction, Mr. Trump has yet to even meet with the special counsel, his lawyers resisting an invitation for an interview. Mr. McGahn is still the White House counsel, shepherding the presidents second Supreme Court nominee, Brett M. Kavanaugh, through the confirmation process.

Mr. Mueller, armed with Mr. McGahns account, is still trying to interview witnesses close to the president. But the White House has a new lawyer for the investigation, Emmet T. Flood, who has strong views on privilege issues. When the special counsel asked to interview Mr. Kelly, Mr. Flood contested the request, rather than fully cooperate.



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Whoa, what a mess...

So many twists & turns, you need a road-map so as not to get lost lol !

When things get messy like this, it often reveals the limitations & flaws of a legal system, where the original complaint takes a back-seat for unforeseen technicalities...

How long now to go until the next election ?....

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Reads to me like this investigation itself will be meddling in the upcoming November 2018 elections if this fishing expedition is allowed to roll past September.

Thats the bottom line...

And I am willing to bet these kinds of tactics were exactly what got Comey fired in the first place! 

Its getting ridiculous and I am willing to bet if this thing isnt wrapped up by September some more people are going to get fired. Enough is enough...



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I've been checking the user list of late, & it seems we have some Russian friends visiting !

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I've been checking the user list of late, & it seems we have some Russian friends visiting !


 I'm pretty sure Rex is actually a Russian bot.



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NEW YORK The Latest on a financial fraud probe involving Donald Trump's former personal lawyer Michael Cohen (all times local):

 

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Donald Trump's former personal lawyer and "fixer," Michael Cohen, has pleaded guilty to charges including campaign finance fraud stemming from hush money payments to porn actress Stormy Daniels and ex-Playboy model Karen McDougal.

The 51-year-old Cohen said in federal court in New York on Tuesday that he made the payments in coordination with Trump, who wasn't named, to influence the election. Both women claimed Trump had affairs with them, which he denies.

The other charges Cohen pleaded guilty to involve bank fraud and income tax evasion.

As part of his plea agreement, Cohen agreed not to challenge any sentence from 46 to 63 months.

Cohen's plea follows months of federal scrutiny and a falling out with the president, whom he previously said he'd "take a bullet" for.



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Influence the election!? LOL!

Thats one hell of a stretch, even for a liberal like you!



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You don't think the reason for paying hush money to these women was to prevent the electorate from finding about them?

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Often times people take a deal so they dont have to go thru the aggravation of trial...

Regardless, these people took the money... so it really doesnt matter much what they say now. 

But they think its important, until of course the reality of their contractual obligation comes to light when they are sued and have to return the money.



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You seem more concerned about the enforcement of private nondisclosure agreements than the fact that such agreements may have had the intended purpose of defrauding the American electorate.

Interesting priorities you have there.

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PowerStroker wrote:

You seem more concerned about the enforcement of private nondisclosure agreements than the fact that such agreements may have had the intended purpose of defrauding the American electorate.


 Agreed !

Don't forget about the vast number of folks that have contracted TDS lol !

What aid may come forward here on this issue is unclear...

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PowerStroker wrote:

You don't think the reason for paying hush money to these women was to prevent the electorate from finding about them?


 Who cares who he screwed, allegedly, years ago. Oh yeah the left!

Who did the left screw? How much hush money they spent? Worry about that, hammer is going to come down big time.



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Flashback: Remember When Obama Campaign Was Fined $375,000 For Campaign Reporting Violations And No Jail Time?
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(Gateway Pundit) On Tuesday, Trumps former personal attorney Michael Cohen surrendered himself to the FBI after it was reported he reached a plea deal with federal prosecutors.

Michael Cohen admitted he violated campaign finance laws in relation to the Stormy Daniels payment at direction of a candidate. He paid off the porn star over $100,000 in a hush money agreement which she later violated.

Democrats and their liberal media cheered that this was the end of the Trump regime.

But it wasnt that long ago that a presidential campaign was charged with much worse.

In 2013 Maggie Haberman at Politico reported on the criminal campaign reporting violations against the Obama campaign.



According to the Politico the Obama campaign was fined $375,000.

President Barack Obamas 2008 campaign was fined $375,000 by the Federal Election Commission for campaign reporting violations one of the largest fees ever levied against a presidential campaign, POLITICO has learned.

The fine laid out in detail in FEC documents that have yet to be made public arose from an audit of the campaign, which was published in April.

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How The Clintons Directed Michael Cohen To Plead Guilty & Implicate President Trump

 

Weeks earlier D.C. Whispers warned readers of Lanny Daviss sudden appearance at the side of former Trump personal attorney Michael Cohen. Mr. Davis is a longtime Clinton operative and as recently as 2016 was helping to manage Hillary Clintons presidential run. His longstanding ties to the Clintons affords him strong ties with both the Democrat and Republican establishments, vast D.C. lobbying powers, and media moguls. In short, he is as Deep State as Deep State gets. 

Now hes using Michael Cohen to add manufactured fuel to the get President Trump fire as the Clintons sit back and watch and wait

 

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Remember Hillary Clintons illegal private server troubles that had her staff destroying evidence and lying to the FBI? 99.9% of the population would have faced some very serious charges for those violations. Not Hillary. Then there are the even more serious money laundering allegations tied to the Clinton Foundation and again no formal charges from the government.

And guess who was acting as the mediator between the Clintons interests and the FBI and DOJ back in 2015 and 2016?

Thats right Lanny Davis.

 

Robert Mueller and Rod Rosenstein, both longtime Deep State operatives, push for an investigation into Michael Cohen. Raids on Cohens homes and offices follow. Charges are manufactured. Cohen is isolated, afraid, and eventually, all too willing to do whatever necessary to save himself.

Once again, enter Lanny Davis who takes Cohen by the hand and leads him to a say anything plea deal with wording scripted by Clinton and Obama-appointed prosecutors in the United States Attorneys Office for the Southern District of New York. The prosecutor leading the case against Cohen is Robert S. Khuzami whose ties with the Clintons date back to the 1990s. During the Obama years, he was charged with protecting the Obama-approved financial interests from legal trouble following the financial collapse in 2008. Remember how some used to complain that no Wall Street big names were called to account for the financial shenanigans that led to the Great Recession? That was allegedly partly Khusamis doing at the direction of the then-Obama White House.

Now the Mueller investigation is said to be working furiously to use the plea deal script that was manufactured by Clinton operative Lanny Davis to further implicate President Trump. An indictment will follow one that may or may not actually be enforceable given the powers of the president but that wont matter. The indictment will be used to further motivate/influence the 2018 Midterms. Enemies of Trump, and they are legion, are said to be hoping for impeachment proceedings by March of 2019.

Far-fetched you say? Consider this Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to non-crimes as they relate to Donald Trump. He has tax issues, fraud issues, but what Davis was most concerned with is the alleged hush money payments that Cohen now says were directed by then-candidate Trump in 2016. That is the only legal item that involves the president directly regarding the Cohen plea  and it isnt a crime. Its a fake charge but Cohen is playing ball with the prosecution because of the other charges he is facing. This is how the U.S. government works. It can manufacture anything to go after anyone at any time and no entity has done this more often and more aggressively than the Clinton Crime Syndicate.


Read more at http://dcwhispers.com/how-the-clintons-directed-michael-cohen-to-plead-guilty-implicate-president-trump/#w2qr6Py9yqcBQBMG.99



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This is how the U.S. government works....

 

It can manufacture anything, to go after anyone, at any time, and no entity has done this more often and more aggressively, than the Clinton Crime Syndicate.....




 Or this fellow perhaps....

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Yup ^^^ that's about it.

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