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They are being paid to do this
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They could have formed a caravan to defend themselves at home
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The timing of the Honduran migrant caravan?


Is it just me, or does it feel like these migrants from Honduras just happen to be trying cross the US boarder in mass at the exact time there is a mid-term election!? And how are all these people able to afford to trek from Honduras all the way thru several countries and into the USA? That would still cost money! Smells like Soros money to me, just like how he probably paid to march all them Syrians into Germany!

It really bothers me to see these mobs of Hondurans marching towards the boarder waving their Honduran flags while singing the Honduran national anthem.. Listening to them say how they do not care what our laws are and that they are going to just enter our country because they feel they have the right! Really kind of pisses me off! I hope Trump does send the military and mow these pushy bastards down! Last thing we need is a few thousand more uppity Hondurans expecting free handouts!

They claim they are all escaping dangerous conditions at home, yet they all unite to form this caravan!? Why could they not unite and form a caravan in their own country to protect themselves? It makes no sense and is a total contradiction to their justification for leaving and seeking asylum. 

And what about the areas that have had to deal with this caravan? I would imagine they all $hit and piss everywhere and overwhelm public bathrooms to the point it becomes a sanitary issue. If they are arrogant and smart enough to form a caravan then they are quite capable of organizing and fixing their own country without illegally entering ours looking for handouts! If they all spent a third the effort to fix things at home as they have with this journey they could all be well on their way to prosperity. It is unfortunate what they claim, but to hear them talk about how they are going to do whatever they want sort of makes you understand why their own people want to kill them. 

Send them home or make them all camp out in Mexico at the boarder! Line our military up and reject these freeloaders! We have our own people to take care of!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hungry-migrants-wail-mexico-guatemala-040047116.html



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They are paid. There are pictures out of them being paid. Demotard plan to grab illegal votes (bout the only ones they can get)Take a look at the T shirts they are wearing too.

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BREAKING: Footage shows Honduras caravan migrants being paid as they march toward US border

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Rep. Matt Gaetz:

BREAKING: Footage in Honduras giving cash 2 women & children 2 join the caravan & storm the US border @ election time. Soros? US-backed NGOs? Time to investigate the source!

 

 


 

 

 

 

 



Fox News reported this morning that a former Honduran lawmaker traveling with the migrants was detained by authorities in Guatemala on Tuesday as President Trump threatened to arrest anyone entering the country illegally. According to latest reports the caravan from Honduras has grown to 4,000.

 

 


 

The Honduras caravan of migrants is now in Guatemala, after police backed down and let them through at the border. ETA America - November mid terms.

 

 



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I seen that President Trump had posted this video to Twitter and at the time I was not sure what it was showing...

Glad to get some clarification! This caravan is getting way out of control and I wonder what is going to happen when they reach the US border?



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Gonna get big and like James Woods said about travel, how are they moving so fast? Demotards is how

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So far they are saying something like 7,500 people already in the caravan! It would also seem they are slowing down and regrouping in an effort to make a big splash at the boarder come election time! It feels and looks very calculated!  I also wonder about the mess that this 7,500 person caravan leaves in their wake!? Does this not bother Mexico? 

It angers me to no end watching Hondurans marching on our nation like an army, all the while waving their flag and singing their national anthem! I do not see how Soros could think this is a good idea! No American in their right mind could be supportive of this! It is not like we can just go barging into other peoples countries without the proper paperwork! What makes these people think they have the right? You can not enter Mexico or Canada without identification and a passport! Yet look at the audacity of these people as they tell us how it is going to be! This is not a migration, it is an invasion! I have no sympathy for these people given their arrogance because I myself have to adhere to the travel laws when it comes to international travel, why should these people be any different? They seem awful home proud, that is where we need to send them! They need to organize in their home country and fix their own problems! We do not want their cheap labor! Often times cheap labor like these people end up costing us more in the end anyway! SEND THEM BACK! 



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Give them a message they WILL FUKING UNDERSTAND. Tear gas, rubber bullets and a compass only points south

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"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door"

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Clearly PowerStroker has never been to California or New Mexico! That fool hasnt a clue! This is not a migration, it is an invasion and takeover of the South West! 



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PowerStroker wrote:

"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door"

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 Yes, and they applied, waited, came in legally, took history, learned English, settled, took the test and became a US citizen. They worked when they got here, no free everything. Big difference.



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Pentagon sends 800 U.S. Troops to US / Mexico boarder!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pentagon-sends-800-troops-us-152135045.html

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PowerStroker wrote:

"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door"

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Eh... Was not the Statue of Liberty given to us by another country?



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Spain gave it to us, and the inscription was consistent with how they viewed the United States at the time. We were a generous people in those days. Now we're just a bunch of grumpy bigots so perhaps the next statue we are gifted will be from the Sons of the Confederacy or something?

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Actually it was a gift of friendship from France. But you're close they are neighbors.

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Breaking: White House Preparing Executive Order To Stop Migrant Caravan

 
OCTOBER 25, 2018 9:29 AM  

(Gateway Pundit) Just as he promised, President Trump is doing everything within his power to stop the thousands of mostly military-aged Honduran migrants from entering the United States.

The White House is preparing an Executive Order to stop the migrant caravan, including asylum seekers, according to Reuters.

It is reported that the caravan of mostly military-aged Honduran males has swelled to over 14,000 people as it marches up Mexico to the US border.

The DHS confirmed this week that gang members and other dangerous criminals are embedded in the caravan.

Migrants from the Middle East, Africa and South Asia have also latched onto the caravan, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

President Trump declared a national emergency Monday morning and announced that he will begin cutting off aid to Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala as the migrant caravan marches through Mexico up to the U.S. border.

The President is also using the military to stop the caravan.

The Associated Press reported earlier Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis is expected to send over 800 troops to the US-Mexico border to help the border patrol deal with the caravan of migrants from Central America.

Promises made, promises kept.

They will be stopped! President Trump promised on Thursday morning.

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Brandon Judd of the National Border Patrol Council is right when he says on @foxandfriends that the Democrat inspired laws make it tough for us to stop people at the Border. MUST BE CHANDED, but I am bringing out the military for this National Emergency. They will be stopped!

 

 

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Stunning: Photo Evidence Shows Caravan Migrants Carrying USAID Bags Paid For By US Taxpayers

 
OCTOBER 25, 2018 9:28 AM  

(Gateway Pundit) Breaking reports overnight ties the migrant caravan in Mexico working its way to the US to billionaire George Soros, the man behind nearly every anti-American group working against the USA over the past decade.

The migrant caravan coming up through Mexico is obviously funded by some far left group.

The migrant caravan of mostly young men from all parts of the world were pictured receiving money from individuals embedded in the caravan. Overnight reporting shows that the funding behind the massive gang of mostly men coming to the US border is being funded in part by a group tied to USAID:

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5) These are professionally taken pictures. Set up, planned and organized. As you can see in the first photo with the guy holding his hands up. Im sure behind him was a professional photographer on a ladder with a high dollar camera. We will address the 3rd picture shortly.

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6) Lets address this photo first as we move forward. Why are these people carrying bags that say US AID?? What is this organization?

United States Agency for International ..well lets see whos had their hands in this organization..https://www.usaid.gov  pic.twitter.com/s1XlNq41JO

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USAID defines itself as the worlds premier international development agency and a catalytic actor driving development results. USAIDs work advances U.S. national security and economic prosperity, demonstrates American generosity, and promotes a path to recipient self-reliance and resilience.

Judicial Watch broke a story in early October that show that the group USAID in Europe has ties to George Soros. This is something that developed during the Obama years.

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6) Lets address this photo first as we move forward. Why are these people carrying bags that say US AID?? What is this organization?

United States Agency for International ..well lets see whos had their hands in this organization..https://www.usaid.gov 

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Why does that yellow bag say USAID? These are migrants
in the Caravan that has not even reached the U.S. yet.

 

 

According to a press release from Judicial Watch in early October:

(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch today released 49 pages of new documents obtained from the U.S. Department of State about U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) funding for George Soross left-wing nonprofit organizations in Albania. The documents deal primarily with the activities of Soros top operative in Albania, Andri Dobrushi, the director of Open Society Foundation-Albania, who was actively engaged in channeling funding to what Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban calls Soros mercenary army. The documents show U.S. grant money flowing through non-governmental organizations (NGOs) that profess to promote civil society, while in fact attacking traditional, pro-American groups, governments and policies.

Just last month, Soros related individuals were pictured paying off protestors in Washington DC at the Kavanaugh hearings. So it certainly would not surprise ANYONE if Soros money was linked to the caravan organizers.

According to The Independent the US Agency for International Development (USAID) in 2016, the US gave Honduras nearly $128m, Guatemala $297m, and El Salvador $75m in aid across all federal agencies mostly aimed towards counter-narcotics activities, military training, agricultural subsidies, and violence prevention.

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Caught On Video: Mexican Police Stop Buses And Trucks Force Them To Take Caravan Immigrants North To US Border

 
OCTOBER 26, 2018 9:29 AM  

(Gateway Pundit) The illegal immigrant caravan of mostly military-aged Honduran males has swelled to over 14,000 people as it marches up Mexico to the US border.

The DHS confirmed this week that gang members and other dangerous criminals are embedded in the caravan.

Migrants from the Middle East, Africa and South Asia have also latched onto the caravan, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

President Trump declared a national emergency Monday morning and announced that he will begin cutting off aid to Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala as the migrant caravan marches through Mexico up to the U.S. border.

But new video shows Mexican police stopping buses and trucks and forcing them to carry caravan immigrants north to the US border.

William La Jeunesse is traveling with the caravan and broke the news on Lou Dobbs Tonight.

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Maybe they aren't going to do it illegally, maybe they will ask for asylum at the border.

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Some will I am sure. One guy was interviewed and asked what if he does not get asylum? "I'm going in anyway." I feel if they break one law and enter illegally, they will have no problem breaking others.

Getting asylum there are check boxes for "reason" There is no box for want a job, that does not grant asylum.

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We should bear in mind that Prior U.S. Foreign policy decisions are what lead to the bad situations in their home country and caused their desire to leave in the first place.

Yours is the party of "personal responsibility" and I say we take responsibility for our foreign blunders and do right by our victims.

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We should bear in mind that Prior U.S. Foreign policy decisions are what lead to the bad situations in their home country and caused their desire to leave in the first place.

Yours is the party of "personal responsibility" and I say we take responsibility for our foreign blunders and do right by our victims.


 

That is just silly talk PowerStroker! We already send aid to their home counties, but not anymore.

Talk like that is why there is going to be a red wave this election. We are not taking responsibility for these other nations! Who made these blunders you speak of!?

I have to insist you explain exactly why you have the right to claim U.S. policy has lead to their own demise! What you claim is outrageous and a big fat lie.

 



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We should bear in mind that Prior U.S. Foreign policy decisions are what lead to the bad situations in their home country and caused their desire to leave in the first place.

Yours is the party of "personal responsibility" and I say we take responsibility for our foreign blunders and do right by our victims.


 What blunders? These countries are 3rd world shitholes and always have been. Take up arms like we did in 1776 and change it. I'm not paying taxes so some asylum seeker/refugee can get 3 times the money, healthcare, housing etc that a SSI recipient can't get. Nor a veteran who proudly served this country. 

 

Once I heard "we have a large table we need to share it" WTF??? We are 19 tril in debt, that's a well set table we can share from?

 

Apply for citizenship like people from other countries, learn US history, learn ENGLISH, and SPEAK IT. Does these people want to assimilate or just get freebies? I'd say the latter.

 

You mentioned they "may" apply for asylum once at the border. They DID NOT at the Mex/Guata border did they, they just entered illegally. Same as most will here. 



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You should check-out the Zeitgeist series of films Shawnee...

In one-of-them, an ex-government official explains how he was sent-in to corrupt a country & its politicians for US-of-A gain...The problem is that the US-of-A politicians seemed to pocket the profit for themselves...

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The US's actions in Central America are to blame for the migrant caravan leaving Honduras, Trump has to let them in

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https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-migrant-caravan-where-mexico-honduras-guatemala-central-america-a8597741.html

More than 7,000 refugees from Central America are currently travelling towards the southern border of the United States, and President Trump isnt happy about it. He has been talking about a lot over the past few days, claiming everything from it being infiltrated by terrorists (untrue), to it being encouraged by the Democrats (also untrue).

But his real ire has been towards the home countries of these refugees, the Northern Triangle of Central America for not stopping their citizens from leaving. They have not done their job. Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador theyre paid a lot of money, every year we give them foreign aid and they did nothing for us, nothing, Trump said yesterday.

 

The president dances near the truth with this statement. The countries of the Northern Triangle routinely rank among the most corrupt in the world. But government corruption alone doesnt explain the ongoing crisis, nor does it account for the human toll. The United States has some responsibility for what is happening, and we are long overdue a reckoning.

To understand the current crisis in the Northern Triangle, one must go back to the 1960s. Guatemala and El Salvador both experienced civil wars which spanned decades and killed hundreds of thousands of people collectively. In Guatemala, the US helped stage a coup against the democratically-elected government in favour of a military junta, which it then spent decades supporting despite well-documented human rights abuses. Its a similar story in El Salvador. Honduras did not have a civil war, but it was used as a staging ground for the  Contras, a far-right guerrilla group backed by the Reagan administration in neighbouring Nicaraguas civil war. These wars backed by the American intelligence agencies destabilised the region and subjected generations to a cycle of extreme poverty and violence.

This power vacuum has allowed organised crime to thrive in the Northern Triangle, but even here, the United States is partly responsible. The presidents favourite bogeyman is an American export. MS-13 got its start in Los Angeles in the 1980s. Through American deportations, it was repatriated to the region, where the carnage and corruption made it rife for an organised crime syndicate to thrive and terrorise the local population.

 

And terrorise they have. El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala have the highest female homicide rates in the world. Of the four most dangerous countries for women, three are in the Northern Triangle. (The other is South Africa, which narrowly edges out Guatemala for third place.) Rape is used as a weapon of war and punishment. Children are ripped from their parents arms and trafficked to profit the gangs. Innocent people routinely face extortion and threats of death if they dont acquiesce to the demands of some of the most brutal groups found anywhere on earth.

But if America has helped cause this tragedy, it can also help solve it. Following the 2014 arrival of 68,000 unaccompanied minors from the Northern Triangle on the Texas border, the Obama administration worked with the governments of these countries to tie aid to concrete, measurable improvements on human rights in the region. The US Congress provided $750m in aid to the Northern Triangle countries to specifically address this crisis. By the end of the Obama Administration, as former vice president Joe Biden wrote earlier this year, the murder rate in Honduras had dropped by a third, and massive improvements were being made in Guatemala and El Salvador.

 

This was only a start, and not nearly enough, considering how grave the circumstances were. But Trumps threat to cut aid would only make the situation worse, and as history shows, it is incumbent on America to make the situation better. We must be the solution to a problem we helped cause.

Long term, though, America must acknowledge the role we played in creating this crisis over the past half-century and find a way to solve it. It isnt only our raison d'ętre, its our moral responsibility. There is a humanitarian crisis in our own backyard, one we helped cause, and we must be willing to do our bit and help these desperate people any way we can.

 

But more urgently, we must be willing to take Central American refugees. The current migrant caravan making its way towards the Rio Grande isnt the first, and it wont be the last. America should receive these 7,000 or more refugees with open arms, in keeping with our national creed of taking the worlds tired, poor, and huddled masses yearning to be free.

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You should check-out the Zeitgeist series of films Shawnee...

In one-of-them, an ex-government official explains how he was sent-in to corrupt a country & its politicians for US-of-A gain...The problem is that the US-of-A politicians seemed to pocket the profit for themselves...

www.youtube.com/user/ZeitgeistMovie

 

Sounds par pocketing the $$$! I'll check it out


 



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Sounds familiar Powerstroker. I've had mixed feelings about the refugees, not all of them though!

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Migrant Mob Members Admit They Dont Want Asylum, Just Benefits

 
 
 

A massive human wave is headed for the U.S. border and the president is sending a significant military presence to meet it, but what do the migrants want?

The people headed through Mexico towards the U.S. are seeking work and taxpayer-funded benefits, not asylum.

No work, no medicare, migrant mob member Gustavo Dominguez told Fox News William Longeness was his reason for heading back to the United States. Dominguez had been previously deported by ICE so when he re-enters the country illegally, hell have committed a felony. To get the Medicare he wants, hell have to steal an Americans identity also a felony.

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Mexico offered the mob jobs, healthcare, and asylum, which they refused which will make them ineligible for asylum in the United States. It also indicates that they arent running away from danger. They are not refugees.



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Trump is using your fears to manipulate you...

 

Fox News Shepard Smith debunks Trumps migrant caravan rhetoric: There is no invasion

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Fox News anchor Shepard Smith on Monday repudiated claims by President Donald Trump and his own network of the risks posed by a so-called caravan of migrants making its way toward the U.S. border.

Tomorrow the migrants, according to Fox News reporting, are more than two months away, if any of them actually come here, Smith said on the air Monday. But tomorrow is one week before the midterm election, which is what all of this is about.

Trump on Monday tweeted to the Central American migrants to go back, adding This is an invasion of our Country and our Military is waiting for you!

Critics have blasted Trump for stoking anti-immigrant rhetoric and drumming up fear ahead of the upcoming midterm elections, and that message had been amplified by Fox News commentators, who on multiple occasions have portrayed the caravan as an immediate threat to the U.S.

In fact, the migrants are still about 1,000 miles from the U.S. border, and they are largely fleeing violence and poverty in their home countries and seeking asylum in the U.S.

On Monday, the U.S. military said it was sending about 5,000 troops to the border.

Smith accused Trump and other politicians of using the caravan to gin up fear in a cynical pre-election ploy. He noted that similar rhetoric about another migrant caravan dissipated earlier this year.

When they did this to us, got us all riled up in April, remember? Smith said. The result was 14 arrests. Were America, we can handle it. But like I said, a week to the election.

 



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I have no fears, therefore he can't.

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OOPS. I do fear snakes!!!! Oh my, I just described the democratic party.

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Really, you have no fear of hoards of brown people coming over and living on food stamps?

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Fear it? No

What's going to happen we don't know and have no control over it anyway. It will be whatever it will be.

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What makes these people think they can just cut in line in front of everyone else lawfully waiting to become citizens? We see this everyday when people try and take cuts in line and these Hondurans are no different! They come with their kids and drag them thru a dangerous and in hospitable journey so they can be used as pawns to gain entry into the United States? If these people cared about their kids they sure as heck would not be subjecting them to a fruitless journey. 

It is not like their country was stricken by a natural deserter... their circumstances are the direct result of their OWN PEOPLE! They should caravan and take over their government! By their own actions it is completely understandable why they face prosecution in their own country! They will not follow the law! It is no different than a fugitive fleeing our country and trying to take up residence in another country! 



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Having the benefit of living our entire lives in this great country, I can see how one might come to such conclusions. The trick is to think of yourself as human first, and American second.

Furthermore, we should not assume they are going to be guilty of any crime upon arrival. They are still approximately a 50 day walk from arriving. If history is any indication of what will happen this time, their numbers will diminish significantly before they reach our border. If and when some of them get here, they have a RIGHT to ask for asylum and have their request considered by a magistrate judge who will evaluate their claim and supporting evidence before making case by case decisions.

You recently said Kavanaugh should be considered innocent until proven guilty, I suggest you apply the same standard to these people. They may be brown and poor, but so too were your ancestors. If you believe that you are a productive and worthy citizen of this country, what makes you believe future generations of these migrants, or even some of these actual migrants would turn out any differently?

Not everyone who joins this country is immediately productive, nor do they necessarily "give" more than they "take" right off the bat. But they come here because they share the same dream as you and I, and the vast majority, once they get on their feet, end up being a net benefit to our nation and make us stronger as a people. Albert Einstein was a Jew who sought asylum here, and his contribution of the atomic bomb ended WW2 in our favor and ushered in a time of American economic and military superiority that still exists to this day.

It's a damn good thing Trump wasn't president when Albert Einstein asked for asylum here, or you may well be speaking German or Japanese right now.

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As a human living in the jungle I can tell you it does not matter if you are American or any other nationality. We as a society of humans know that the infrastructure here in the USA cannot support ALL who wish to come! We also know that our social net can not support ALL who wish to come. For this reason PowerStroker we have these things called immigration laws, laws that for too long have not been enforced. The result of these lax immigration laws is my having to order breakfast at a McDonalds in Santa Monica from a machine because the person at the counter could not speak or understand english. I mean, she understands her paycheck that is written in english, but for whatever reason she can not understand it when someone like me is hungry for breakfast. These lax immigration laws also lead to an insane amount of traffic in LA that otherwise might be manageable. Then there was all them uprisings under Obama where people from South America decided that the American flag was no longer welcome in their towns, replaced with that of a Mexican flag. 

Your thinking is not showing the end results you are claiming PowerStroker, this has been going on a VERY long time, long enough for all Americans to see what is really happening. I think you will find that when all these illegal voters and squatters are lawfully removed that a majority of America dose not think as foolishly as you. The fact you refer to illegal immigrants as BROWN people shows that YOU are the racist, because there is a great deal of white people from all over Europe and Russia that also should follow the laws as it pertains to immigration. I do not want them illegals here anymore than I want the ones from South America!

These people who will cross over the US boarder illegally are not American Citizens and they are guilty the moment they step foot over that boarder. You can say what you want about people like Einstein but this is America! Had it not been him, it would have been someone else. We could all be better off if Einstein had not even invented the bomb and introduced it at such a pivotal moment. No doubt the reason Einstein came to America is because he would not have been able to do these things without American support. 

But again, from what I have seen from FIRST HAND experience in California is that unchecked immigration will result in over crowding! Not only that, pocket communities of immigrants who are not friendly to Americans passing thru their towns. Perhaps you need to visit California for a few days PowerStroker! Rent a car and drive up and down the coast, you might be shocked... Look at the state of California and how liberal it is, why do you think that is? Could it be because the overwhelming majority of illegal voters there outnumbers the actual American citizens? It is very clear that I am not the racist, I am the American Citizen who knows what a gypsy freeloader is all about. We do not need people to fill our jobs because the more open jobs there are the more people will get paid to do them nasty jobs that no one wants to do. It is as simple as supply and demand.

It is a damn good thing Trump IS the President today, because had Obama and the Democrats still held on to power we would be speaking Spanish right now! Already my kids school requires a foreign language! So in way our kids ARE being forced to speak at least one foreign language! 



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You seem to be painting the specific Honduran migrant caravan with the same broad brush as the Mexicans who cross without asking for asylum, 2 totally different things. The Honduran caravan hasn't broken any of our laws yet, and until they do they should be treated as innocent like Kavanaugh.

You also seem to assume that they will all be mooching off our social safety net. With the job market as good as it is right now, it's quite possible that if granted asylum, they could easily find gainful employment and actually pay more in to the safety net than they take out, at least in the long run. If they have enough gravitas to leave an impossible situation and traverse that kind of distance on foot to find a better life, it stands to reason that they are probably willing to work for a living once their journey is over.

Presenting yourself at the border to request asylum is NOT illegal immigration, and should not be lumped in to the same discussion as things that are.

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Maybe they aren't going to do it illegally, maybe they will ask for asylum at the border.


 Like the first 2 caravans did at the Guat/Mex border. Crash fences, rocks, sticks, molotovs, enter Mex illegally... Yeah, dream on.



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I wonder if the native North American Indians had conversations like this when white-man first arrived ?...

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I wonder if the native North American Indians had conversations like this when white-man first arrived ?...


 

You know Rastus, every time someone goes spouting off about the "native" Americans in this country I remind them,

If we learned anything from the Indians, it was what an invasion looks like! Remember the Alamo!



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Your little flip book ^^^ is very relevant Rex. It is a reminder that we are all one species, one family if you will. And we all had a common ancestor that evolved somewhere in the region now called Africa.

It really puts in to perspective how silly it is to turn away our fellow man in a time of need.

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Your little flip book ^^^ is very relevant Rex. It is a reminder that we are all one species, one family if you will. And we all had a common ancestor that evolved somewhere in the region now called Africa.

It really puts in to perspective how silly it is to turn away our fellow man in a time of need.


 

It is a reminder PowerStroker!

1st - it is a reminder that we are all from the same planet, and if you go far enough back we are all really from the same land mass known as Pangea, NOT Africa as you and 2008 Democrats would suggest. This theory was dispelled and even ancestry.com has removed everyones .001 percent African heritage. 

2nd - it is a reminder that Democrats and their global warming efforts are futile! Nothing anyone can do about the plates shifting under us regardless how much you want to blame it on man! There is no amount of money in the world that will stop continental drift and the weather patterns that allow such a phenomena to occur.

3rd - while we all may be from this same family known as "human", it does not mean that everyone is good and worthy of trust! If these migrants want to migrate to the United States they had better go thru the proper channels to prove they are worthy of trust. The only thing you trust about them is the fact that they have no problems lying, cheating and breaking laws! These are qualities that Democrats look for in illegal voters, because if they would break the law crossing the boarder you can bet they would break the law and illegally vote.

Even Dorothy and her friends were required to prove themselves to the Great Wizard of Oz by bringing him the broomstick of the wicked witch! These migrants need to bring us the heads of their worthless government and maybe we can grant them their wish! Otherwise, they can just get in line with the rest of the munchkins and wait in line!

The migrant caravan started out as less than 3,500 people, it has now swelled to over 7,500! Much like how a snowball grows as it rolls downhill, this caravan is getting bigger by the day and the people who are joining at this point are not in any danger, they just want the free benefits as they tear at the soft belly of our safety net and infrastructure. 



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Is this why your party has spent decades trying to destroy the social safety net... Because immigrants might benefit from it too?

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.



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Is this why your party has spent decades trying to destroy the social safety net... Because immigrants might benefit from it too?

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Do you by chance believe in a "master race"?

 



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Rastus wrote:

I wonder if the native North American Indians had conversations like this when white-man first arrived ?...


 We'll have to ask Elizabeth Warrencry



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The Department of Homeland Security Has Just issued another warning on the migrant caravans and confirmed that at least 270 of the individuals traveling with them are known gang members or have criminal backgrounds.

Thursday, the Department of Homeland Security issued another warning regarding the caravans that are heading towards the U.S. southern border.

 

 

 


Daily Mail reports that there are now three caravans making their way to the U.S. from different regions within Central America.

First caravan, which has shrunk from 7,000 to 4,000 participants, reached Juchitan, Mexico, Tuesday, more than 700 miles southeast of Mexico City 
A smaller second caravan of Central Americans entered Tapachula, Mexico, and camped out in the towns main plaza 
 
A third group from El Salvador crossed the bridge connecting Guatemala and Mexico and legally entered Ciudad Hidalgo 

On Thursday, DHS revised their warning, this time including the second caravan, stating that nearly 20 countries make up the caravans and at least 270 people are either known gang members or have criminal backgrounds.

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The Department of Homeland Security claimed Thursday people from at least 20 countries make up the two caravan groups, not just citizens of Guatemala and Honduras.

In a release called Myth vs. Fact: Caravan, the department also states more than 270 people in the caravans are either known gang members or have criminal backgrounds.

DHS did not cite its sources for the information and a department spokesperson said that information is law enforcement sensitive.


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Daily Mail and Washington Examine eh? Never heard of them, but I can only imagine what I will find when I check them out.

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Yup, both are conservative tabloids, just like I thought.



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Yup, conservative. Problem with that? Racist against conservatives huh? Open your eyes, read something other than CNN and MSNBC get the whole picture. I don't SMASH the messenger like you do, I read the message. Your news sucks, 99% bias to conservatives and Trump but then that's what you want to hear so good for you. Tell me how well it worked when you lose both the senate and the house because your party is so fuked up.

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Proof The Peaceful Migrant Caravan Is ViolentAnd Armed

 
NOVEMBER 2, 2018 9:58 AM  

(TeaParty.org) A second migrant caravan is following in the footsteps of the highly-publicized group of Honduran migrants headed for the American border, and they seem to be just as peaceful as the first.

The group of hundreds of illegal migrants just trekked across Guatemala into Mexico, violently clashing with Mexican authorities as they attempted to prevent the small invasion.

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#BREAKING Hundreds of Honduran migrants cross river into Mexico

 

 

The Associated Press reports that the migrants, many of whom are military-aged males, used rocks, sticks, and glass bottles in their clash with Mexican authorities.

There are even reports that some of the migrants were armed with fireworks, and some even had guns and firebombs.

A statement from Mexicos Interior Department revealed that only two Hondurans, aged 17 and 22, were arrested in the altercation.

President Donald Trump, who has used incredibly strong language to express his administrations unwillingness to tolerate this migrant invasion, has been mocked for characterizing them as violent.

 
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Reporter: "What evidence do you have that these are hardened criminals that are coming to the United States?"

President Trump: "Oh, please. Please. Don't be a baby. Okay? Take a look...I didn't say in all cases. But in many cases, these are hardened criminals."

 

 

Trump has not referenced any evidence for his claims of criminality. We do know that many migrants have said they are fleeing terrible gang violence, with some fearing for their lives, The Guardian wrote this month.

This latest incident certainly doesnt help their narrative.

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Mexico's interior minister said federal police and immigration agents were attacked with rocks, glass bottles and explosives by the migrant caravan

 

 

Just one day before the violent clash, Raul A. Reyes expressed the same views as The Guardian in an op-ed for CNN.

In fact, the people who join such caravans often band together to protect themselves from hardened criminals, like drug cartels and human traffickers, he wrote. Many people in the last big caravan, in April, were women and children fleeing violence in their countries of origin.

There is no denying the fact that there are women and children among the caravan. In fact, Mexican Interior Secretary Alfonso Navarrete Prida said that the elderly, pregnant women, and children were placed at the front of the caravan as they pushed into Mexico.

So much for peacefultheyre storming sovereign borders with crude weapons using their weaker members as shields and publicity props.



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