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Is there a specific vote she has cast that makes you hate her more than the other Dems? Or does she just come pre-hated like Obama?

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Is there a specific vote she has cast that makes you hate her more than the other Dems? Or does she just come pre-hated like Obama?


 

 

REALLY?

Why is it HATE?

We simply disagree with her COMPLETELY...She is not a democratic socialist what she calls for is communism...She wants the government to be the caretaker...She has been very CLEAR on what her philosophy is...

As a whole she is CLEARLY in WAY over her head...even the life long democrats are keeping her at a distance...early on they supported her...now they have buyers remorse...

Democrats have two major problems at the moment...

ONE

too many in the party calling for socialism...

TWO

most democrats are playing identity politics and the fringe that attracts rarely actually show up to vote and that same fringe is very vocal if you do not toe their line...

 

Republicans have two major problems as well.

 

ONE 

RELIGION

TWO

Donald Trump and social media

 

Trump policy has been SOUND...

Democrats do not like it because they are working and it exposes the nonsense that only government can solve the problem...

Liberals are usual good with social issues and horrible with economics...

Conservatives are good with the economy and horrible at social issues...

Leftist are EVIL and do not give a fuck they just insist you agree with them as they destroy everything around them.

 

DEMOCRATS are quickly becoming more and more LEFTIST and LESS and LESS LIBERAL.

 

REPUBLICANS will not let go of RELIGION. First amendment got it right...the only way to truly have FREEDOM of religion is to have separation of church and state.

 

REPUBLICANS are by far the lesser of two evils today...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Is there a specific vote she has cast that makes you hate her more than the other Dems? Or does she just come pre-hated like Obama?


 I don't hate her at all. Her own party does though biggrin



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I rather like her actually!

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She spices things up that's for sure.

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This is why I love her (well more reasons too and not what you may think), She's so out there yet so wanting to help? OK, nuts? Manson eyes? Can't spell? So what. While I find her insane on many things like no more airplanes, built trains over the seas she really means well. I actually wish her well, honestly. 



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I rather like her actually!


 Like her as a person? 

 

or think she belongs in the House of Representatives?

 

There is a huge gap there...

 

While she was duly elected under our constitutional process...

 

She is clearly in WAY over her head...

 

Anyone who serious thinks people who are unwilling to work should just be supported by society is way off the deep end...



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I like her as a person, and I think she belongs in the House of Reps.

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I think she is all over the map, just throwing shit at the wall to see what will stick...

She looks and acts dumb, but that is what she wants you to think.

At the end of the day, all the shit that sticks to the wall and appears to have the most support will be the issues that the Democrats will pounce on come 2020.

She is a pack animal, being sent in as a sheep - banished in some ways from her own party so that she can operate in the far left of the isle so that others in the party appear center... They are not, she is not.  



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PowerStroker wrote:

I like her as a person, and I think she belongs in the House of Reps.

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Okay I will play along...

 

Verify...

 

You think should be in the house because she was duly elected? 

or 

You think she should be in the house because you support her philosophy?

 

I have no trouble with her getting elected...unless there is something I am unaware of something, she was duly elected...

 

but if you honestly think she makes a good leader for this country and her ideas are sound...well then, we are done here because there is no excuse for that level of willful delusion...

 






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I guess we're done here, because my answer is both.

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SELLC wrote:

I think she is all over the map, just throwing shit at the wall to see what will stick...

She looks and acts dumb, but that is what she wants you to think.

At the end of the day, all the shit that sticks to the wall and appears to have the most support will be the issues that the Democrats will pounce on come 2020.

She is a pack animal, being sent in as a sheep - banished in some ways from her own party so that she can operate in the far left of the isle so that others in the party appear center... They are not, she is not.  


 

I like this...Though a suspicious, & a little paranoid, SELLC has learned a great deal from Mr.Trump & his activity !



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I guess we're done here, because my answer is both.


 So you think the government (tax payers) should provide a basic income for those unwilling to work?

 



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That's a bit farther than I would personally go...

I believe healthcare is a right and every citizen should have single payer universal healthcare coverage like the rest of the industrialized world.

I believe in policies that incentivize a transition away from fossil fuels.

I believe in equal rights for all, regardless of gender, race, orientation etc.

I believe in demand side trickle up economics.

I believe in regulated capitalism, and strong enforcement of the Sherman Anti Trust Act.

I believe nobody should ever inherit enough wealth to influence the natural course of democracy.

I believe in public funding of elections to keep special interest money away from our representatives.

I believe that in the event of an economic collapse, the government can and should become the employer of last resort - at least temporarily.

I believe that non citizens should be able to earn citizenship through military service.

I believe the Constitution and Bill of Rights provide protections for natural persons only - not business entities.

I believe money is not the same thing as speech with regard to the 1st Amendment.

I believe climate change is real, and human activity is responsible for much of it.

I believe in a strong separation between church and state.

I believe elections should be national holidays, and all citizens should be pre-registered to vote.

I believe in keeping ideologues of any stripe out of the court system.

I believe people have individual control of their bodies.

I believe Congressional districts should be drawn by non partisan commissions.

I believe families caught crossing the border illegally should be detained together.

I believe nobody should ever become a cabinet secretary for an agency they had previously sued.

I believe in net neutrality.

I believe in a free press.

I believe Russia is presently the adversary doing us the most harm.

I believe with the sometimes troubled history of this country, sometimes affirmative action policies are not only warranted, but necessary.

I believe that if you actually met me, you would find me quite charming and even delightful.




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That's unfortunate, because you are actually much more powerful as part of a collective.

It took more than a collection of self serving individuals to defeat fascism in WW2. It took more than a collection of self serving individuals to put a man on the moon.

The greatest accomplishments humanity has ever and will ever achieve are team efforts.

When JFK toured the NASA headquarters and stopped to talk to a janitor, he asked the janitor what he was doing. The janitor did not say mopping the floor, he said he was helping to put a man on the moon.



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JFK also got his head blown off in a convertible Lincoln... 

Dare I say by ONE man?

Oh yeah, there were them sketchy dudes on the grassy knoll. 

I can work as a team player, just not for a team of losers..



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JFK also got his head blown off in a convertible Lincoln... 

Dare I say by ONE man?

Oh yeah, there were them sketchy dudes on the grassy knoll. 

I can work as a team player, just not for a team of losers..


 Hmmm...

That my friend, was a classic "coup d'etat"...

Let's hope that never happens again...We'll see I suppose...

 

Rumors down this way are suggesting Mr.Trump may resign the Presidency before 2020...



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I believe healthcare is a right and every citizen should have single payer universal healthcare coverage like the rest of the industrialized world.



 

 

Here is the problem with your statement....

 

single payer is an alternative to universal healthcare...

 

claiming the rest of the world (industrialized) has it is very misleading as well...

 

the only places that have a decent healthcare system have tax rates double what we pay in the United States...and their system has many issues...

single payer is about using a national tax to pool revenue to cover cost in a private for profit healthcare system...the doctors the facilities all remain in the free market...single payer only replaces the INSURANCE side of our current system...

Universal Healthcare is where the tax is used to build and maintain facilities and pay doctors and nurses to work there...this is essentially the VA for all...and NO THANKS...

The side of Universal that the left glosses over is they have shortages in doctors and nurses...because they are not paid well to keep cost down...and they are overly micro managed...this causes longer wait to get appointments...

The part they need to understand is leaving the doctors and nurses and hospitals and clinics in a free market where competition will self regulate the cost...while a tax guarantees payment so no stop loss to recover...is the only viable solution...

 

The issue that then has to be figured out is where the line gets drawn on who has final say over your medical decisions...you and your doctor...or CMS...

 

 

 



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Rumors down this way are suggesting Mr.Trump may resign the Presidency before 2020...


 

LOL, do you entertain yourself with this sort of nonsense? 



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Rumors down this way are suggesting Mr.Trump may resign the Presidency before 2020...


 

LOL, do you entertain yourself with this sort of nonsense? 


 Yo,

Yes, I thought it funny too, but I haven't read the full article ( from either CounterPunch or Bulletin of the Atomic Scientist ), but it "seems" that Mr.Trump was born into a major crime syndicate family, with associates that are / were known criminals, & that tax fraud from generations of criminal activity may prove his undoing...

You see, if he resigns, the newly appointed President can pardon him from "crimes he may, or may not have committed against the US-of-A, & its people", as has been successfully done before by (Michigan) President, Gerald Ford, when he pardoned the late, great, & sorely missed Mr.Nixon.



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www.counterpunch.org/2019/02/12/will-trump-resign-before-the-2020-election/


Here's the link to the article, I hope it works LOL !

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