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Trump defends "a great general" who fought against the U.S.: Robert E. Lee

Dylan Stableford Fri, Apr 26 10:33 AM CDT 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-defends-his-both-sides-response-to-charlottesville-153321031.html

President Trump on Friday defended his comment that there were very fine people on both sides of the deadly clashes in Charlottesville, Va., between white nationalists and counterprotesters in 2017.

The president spoke outside the White House a day after former Vice President Joe Biden launched his presidential bid with a video condemning Trump for the controversial remarks.

I was talking about people that felt very strongly about the monument to Robert E. Lee, a great general whether you like it or not, Trump told reporters on the South Lawn before departing for the National Rifle Associations annual convention.

The president claimed he had spoken to active-duty generals who told him that Lee, a U.S. Army officer who defected to the Confederate side and led the Army of Northern Virginia, was their favorite general.

People were there protesting the taking down of the monument of Robert E. Lee, Trump added. Everybody knows that.

The weekend of Unite The Right protests in Charlottesville in August 2017 were organized by a group of white supremacists.

White supremacists march through the University of Virginia campus with torches in Charlottesville, Va., Aug. 11, 2017. (Photo: Samuel Corum/Anadolu Agency/Getty Images)

White supremacists march through the University of Virginia campus with torches in Charlottesville, Va., Aug. 11, 2017. (Photo: Samuel Corum/Anadolu Agency/Getty Images)

 

Though nominally about the preservation of a statue honoring Lee, the underlying objective of Unite the Right was to bring various factions of the largely internet-based alt-right movement together in real life. The rallies began with neo-Nazis marching through the University of Virginia campus carrying tiki torches and chanting Jews will not replace us!

Heather Heyer, 23, was killed when a car driven by a neo-Nazi plowed into a group of counterprotesters. Two state police officers were also killed when their helicopter crashed while monitoring the clashes.

Trumps response that blamed both sides for the violence, which was widely criticized, was the centerpiece of Bidens campaign launch video.

He said there were some very fine people on both sides. Very fine people on both sides, Biden said in the video posted to YouTube Thursday. With those words, the president of the United States assigned a moral equivalence between those spreading hate and those with the courage to stand against it. And in that moment, I knew the threat to this nation was unlike any I had ever seen in my lifetime.

At the time, Biden said, the events in Charlottesville convinced him we were in a battle for the soul of this nation. He predicted history will look back on four years of this president and all he embraces as an aberrant moment in time.

But if we give Donald Trump eight years in the White House, he will forever and fundamentally alter the character of this nation, who we are, the former vice president added. And I cannot stand by and watch that happen.

 


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Here we go again..the problem is the LEFTIST narrative...

 

Anyone who disagrees with the LEFTIST is a RACIST...

 

Anyone who does not DENOUNCE General Robert E Lee is a RACIST...a white supremacist...it is a false narrative that they keep trying to conflate anyone who disagrees with them is a racist white nationalist...

 

Trump is right in all counts...

 

When it comes to the civil war...there were good people on both sides...

 

When it comes to Charlottesville same thing there were good people on both sides...

 

not everyone there defending Robert E Lee were white nationalist...but that is the narrative of the LEFT...

 

This is how they conflate Trump into a racist....when there are just way too many things ACTIONS in his life that prove Trump is far from anything remotely racist...

 

being in favor of a strong border is not RACIST...it is not about race or skin color, it is about coming here legally or trying to sneak in and assume an identity...

 

Robert E Lee is a US Army General...The fact the left has tried to demonize a very good man shows there is no depth the left will not stoop to...

 

The only slaves Robert E Lee ever owned he inherited and he freed them long before the civil war ever started...He did not want to leave the Union but could not in good conscience fight his actual neighbors...

 

Trump is RIGHT to defend Robert E Lee....and anyone who does not understand that should be fucking ashamed...

 

 

 



-- Edited by Nuffan on Saturday 27th of April 2019 06:22:37 PM

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Why is everything "racist" or "nazi" with you? Black and white period. General Lee was a democrat.

I'm sure there were fine people on both sides. While I disagree with you on practically everything I don't condemn you or call you racist. A bad person. I am sure we would get along fine in person. STOP THE BLACK AND WHITE distinction (not as in racism). There shades of gray, many. Ever take a college level art class, pencil and charcoal? 

Turn the fuking funnel around, look in the small end, not the big end as you always do.

Here, educate yourself on Gen Lee. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Lee

Besides, he can't be all that bad, they named a car after him.



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Nuffan wrote:

Here we go again..the problem is the LEFTIST narrative...

 

Anyone who disagrees with the LEFTIST is a RACIST...

 

Anyone who does not DENOUNCE General Robert E Lee is a RACIST...a white supremacist...it is a false narrative that they keep trying to conflate anyone who disagrees with them is a racist white nationalist...

 

Trump is right in all counts...

 

When it comes to the civil war...there were good people on both sides...

 

When it comes to Charlottesville same thing there were good people on both sides...

 

not everyone there defending Robert E Lee were white nationalist...but that is the narrative of the LEFT...

 

This is how they conflate Trump into a racist....when there are just way too many things ACTIONS in his life that prove Trump is far from anything remotely racist...

 

being in favor of a strong border is not RACIST...it is not about race or skin color, it is about coming here legally or trying to sneak in and assume an identity...

 

Robert E Lee is a US Army General...The fact the left has tried to demonize a very good man shows there is no depth the left will not stoop to...

 

The only slaves Robert E Lee ever owned he inherited and he freed them long before the civil war ever started...He did not want to leave the Union but could not in good conscience fight his actual neighbors...

 

Trump is RIGHT to defend Robert E Lee....and anyone who does not understand that should be fucking ashamed...

 

 

 



-- Edited by Nuffan on Saturday 27th of April 2019 06:22:37 PM


Yes, it's about illegal not race or color. Hard slap in the face to anyone ever immigrated legally or still trying to do so.

General was a very educated man, West Point, Engineer,,,, Long military career.

I doubt PS will read the history and his life on the link. 

The border. Shut it the fuk down. Line it with tanks and armed troops. Soros can pay to incinerate them. Not that I don't have compassion I cannot stand ILLEGAL. If you will cross illegally, stay here illegally, you will do anything illegal including kill US citizens, as we have seen OVER AND OVER



-- Edited by Shawnee_B on Saturday 27th of April 2019 07:13:39 PM

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It's not illegal to come to a port of entry and ask for asylum.

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PowerStroker wrote:

It's not illegal to come to a port of entry and ask for asylum.


 

 

There is another false narrative....

 

Most of the people detained do not walk up and request asylum...

 

We get you want to believe these 500K people all asked to enter the country under a guise of asylum at a port of entry...but it is simply not the case...

 

 

 

 

 



-- Edited by Nuffan on Sunday 28th of April 2019 04:52:23 AM

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But some did, and they were separated from their families and detained just like those who crossed illegally.

Where is the outrage about this?



-- Edited by PowerStroker on Sunday 28th of April 2019 08:54:21 AM

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PowerStroker wrote:

But some did, and they were separated from their families and detained just like those who crossed illegally.

Where is the outrage about this?



-- Edited by PowerStroker on Sunday 28th of April 2019 08:54:21 AM


 

Where was the outrage when THE SAME THINGS WERE DONE UNDER OBAMA AND BUSH AND CLINTON....

 

We have never just told asylum seekers sure welcome walk right in...they have always been detained...

 

 

WE do not deport asylum seekers we simply do not let them enter...Obama did not let many enter as well

 

WE deport people who enter illegally...

 

More BROWN people were deported under Obama than any president before him....

 

Why is Obama not called a racists...

 

 

Again you spread a false narrative...

 

 

 



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But some did, and they were separated from their families and detained just like those who crossed illegally.

Where is the outrage about this?

 


 Fuck those illegals and their kids! If their parents werent so fucking ignorant and greedy they wouldnt be in that mess!

Why dont you grow some balls and have some kids instead of trying to import them at our expense?

In life you have two choices, fight or flight! Me and mine arent going no where so they better be ready for a fight! 



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It was not Obama administration policy to separate families being detained. That was the brainchild of Stephen Miller.

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Doesn't matter who's brainchild it was... If a child is an enemy combatant in a war, that kid gets the same treatment as his parents!

The parents who subject their kids to this are the problem! They do not care about their kids! They are using their kids as shields much like terrorist do! 

I think it is pretty simple, don't illegally enter the country! That is pretty universal and standard fair in ANY country PowerStroker! 

There are people all over the world who are trying to become American citizens legally! Some of them currently in the country now properly and legally! Who do these illegals trying to enter illegally think they are? They think they are just going to posse up and do whatever the fuck they want and demand that we take care of them!? Fuck that! Feed em' lead if they try hurting any of our boarder patrol or citizens! We don't need that shit here! They can take that mob / gang mentality back to the shit-holes they are running from, only they probably aren't running! They are probably being paid to make this journey much like the invasion of Germany back when Obama was President! Difference here is that Americans seen Merkel fail, and thus did not elect Hillary because we all know she and the Democrats would do! They would give away the farm! But not their farms - YOUR FARMS!



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If a child is an enemy combatant in a war


 Are you really that dense to think these children are enemy combatitants?

At the moment, I'm talking about families who LEGALLY come to a port of entry and request asylum. Let's not group all people into the same category please. And yes, it does matter who came up with the family separation policy.


Compassionate Christian conservatism my ass. More like cruel white nationalism.



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Nothing but compassion and love in these guys hearts I'm sure.



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If a child is an enemy combatant in a war


 Are you really that dense to think these children are enemy combatitants?

At the moment, I'm talking about families who LEGALLY come to a port of entry and request asylum. Let's not group all people into the same category please. And yes, it does matter who came up with the family separation policy.


Compassionate Christian conservatism my ass. More like cruel white nationalism.

 


 

Last I checked there is a high threshold to meet the requirements for asylum, it is a very high burden to prove! I think perhaps they are lying since they have no problems forming large caravans to break the laws in our country. Why this mass migration? Was it socialism that failed them? They run out of other peoples money to spend? Now they think they can come here in droves and overwhelm the system? That sounds more like a calculated invasion to me! Talk about collusion!

The requirements are VERY high to request Asylum,

First, an asylum applicant must establish that he or she fears persecution in their home country. Second, the applicant must prove that he or she would be persecuted on account of one of five protected grounds: race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or particular social group.

 



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PowerStroker wrote:

White supremacists march through the University of Virginia campus with torches in Charlottesville, Va., Aug. 11, 2017. (Photo: Samuel Corum/Anadolu Agency/Getty Images)

Nothing but compassion and love in these guys hearts I'm sure.


 i see and hear much more hate and incivility in this character  than in those indoctrinated characters!

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PowerStroker wrote:
SELLC wrote:

If a child is an enemy combatant in a war


 Are you really that dense to think these children are enemy combatitants?

At the moment, I'm talking about families who LEGALLY come to a port of entry and request asylum. Let's not group all people into the same category please. And yes, it does matter who came up with the family separation policy.


Compassionate Christian conservatism my ass. More like cruel white nationalism.



-- Edited by PowerStroker on Sunday 28th of April 2019 12:43:00 PM


 

YOU are the one DRAWING racial conclusions...

 

You think it is because of skin color...it is not...

 

We welcome over 1 million immigrants a year...

 

WE DO NOT OWE ANYONE ENTRY....

 

No one is WALKING to our border requesting asylum.

 

These caravans had many chances to stop and apply for asylum long before they reached the US border...

 

But you do not want to address that as it goes against your narrative...

 

 

 

 

 



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It was not Obama administration policy to separate families being detained. That was the brainchild of Stephen Miller.


 

 

Yes it was...

 

The difference the LEFT wants to try and cling to, is Obama only did it when there was no proof the child was really with their parents...

 

The problem with that narrative is there is no way to know for certain...there was not under Obama and there is not under Trump...

 

But this claim that children have ONLY been separated since Trump took office is just another bullshit FALSE narrative the LEFT tries to spread...

 

 

 

 

 

 



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I never said that no family was EVER separated under the Obama administration, I just stated it was not the official policy. Certainly there were probably times if border patrol agents saw a child was abused they would probably separate a child for its protection. Under the Trump administration though, the Stephen Miller plan to do this was made official policy for the purpose of inflicting as much emotional trauma as possible as a deterrent for people, even legitimate asylum seekers.

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I never said that no family was EVER separated under the Obama administration, I just stated it was not the official policy. Certainly there were probably times if border patrol agents saw a child was abused they would probably separate a child for its protection. Under the Trump administration though, the Stephen Miller plan to do this was made official policy for the purpose of inflicting as much emotional trauma as possible as a deterrent for people, even legitimate asylum seekers.


 

 

The bolded part is a leftist lie...

 

Nothing is being done to deliberately cause trauma...

 

You want that to be the case so you can make Trump out to be some type of monster...it just is not true...

 

Obama does it to protect children, but Trump does it because he s a monster...lol

 

It is the narrative being pushed by the extreme left...and you buy it because you're a moron...

 

 

 

 



-- Edited by Nuffan on Sunday 28th of April 2019 05:51:53 PM

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It's not illegal to come to a port of entry and ask for asylum.


 No it isn't but what percent actually stops and asks, .oooo1 %??? They just cross, get detained then released in the US to never show up for a court date or be seen again until some horrific crime.

Want in this country? Apply legally, customs and immigration and WAIT like everyone else.



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 i see and hear much more hate and incivility in this character  than in those indoctrinated characters!

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Having glanced at your vast collection of memes, you are clearly our resident expert on tolerance and decency, so I'll have to take your word for it.



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