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Was Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman's testimony about his family out of line? [3 vote(s)]

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Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman - Proof the impeachment hearings are bullshit!


Here we have a Colonel in the US Army making testimony in the impeachment hearings where he is allowed to bumble off topic and reminisce about his childhood in The Ukraine while under Russian control! Then, if that wasn't enough - he attempts to talk to his dead father while on the stand! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ09yWCPWfo

The way he fumbles about talking about his family, having to read verbatim from a sheet of paper makes you wonder just how truthful this guy is! It also makes you wonder if he is a deep cover spy for Russia as he clearly admits his entire family is wrapped up in the armed services with a great pride for their work! Yet here he is attacking his highest ranking commanding officer trying to overthrow our government much like a communist nation!

https://youtu.be/dLsROO0IOZA

And look how he demands civilians call him by his rank, never mind his going off about his family life! 

WTF! JUST THE FACTS PLEASE!

I understand the guy serves in the military, but just because someone serves in the military does not automatically make them a good person! Some were drafted, others joined because it was that or jail - and yet others may have joined to spy and report our inner workings to other governments. This is the problem with refugees! They get all home proud at some point and are a liability to this great nation! In this case, this guy feels that Trump asking Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden's son is out of line, and I guess he feels that the pay for play under the Democrats, specifically the Biden family, in Ukraine - are somehow OKAY and beyond reproach. It's not like Trump or our government can interview the Ukrainians who may have been getting extorted - so what other option is there!? Are we to assume that our elected officials have immunity in overseas dealings? That to even investigate is an impeachable offense? 

This whole trial may end up touching off a civil war - because I can NEVER in all my years EVER recall a member of the military ever going against their commander and chief! There are no safe spaces in the Military and from what I have seen so far this is a problem for people in the Army to deal with. 

Guy should feel lucky he is not a Marine, because they don't take kindly to such things!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/alexander-vindman-ended-opening-statement-154517033.html



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Read about Vindmans superior officer tearing him apart. He was talking politics with Russians BASHING USA.

This is a fine example of what is "left" after Odumbo cleaned out the good officers. And PS will ask for the list of officers, that I posted it for last time it came up.

www.investors.com/politics/editorials/197-military-officers-purged-by-obama/

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Didn't Crimea fall to Russia on Obama's watch?

And if there was a pay for play with Ukraine and Joe Biden was getting kickbacks, and he got his son involved in that - who's fault is that?

This whole impeachment is predicated on Trump investigating Biden's shady dealings in Ukraine!

I mean this is crazy!



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Exactly what shady Ukraine dealing is Joe Biden involved with?

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That's what dems do, blame YOU for what illegal, corrupt acts they already did.

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Honestly I'm wondering what Trump was trying to investigate in Ukraine about the Bidens, I haven't yet heard what they did wrong.

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Honestly I'm wondering what Trump was trying to investigate in Ukraine about the Bidens, I haven't yet heard what they did wrong.


 

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I guess the esteemed Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman missed this video...



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And I am sure PowerStroker voted that his backstory was important... What I would like to know is WHY is it important PowerStroker?? To you?

We already know this man is throwing his Commander in Chief under the bus so to speak, why? He didn't feel the need to do anything about the Bidens! 



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Well, Congressman Jim Jordan questioned him on his credibility, bringing his character in to question. His back story speaks to his character, and so does that lovely performance review he brought with him which shut Congressman Roid Rage down pretty nicely. So you can thank the Congressman for making it relevant to the discussion.

Furthermore, while in civilian life, I wouldn't necessarily expect civilians to address him as Colonel. However, he was testifying before Congress in his capacity as a member of the military, and therefore should be addressed by his title, just as he addressed the members of Congress who questioned him.

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His backstory gives rise to serious conflicts of interest, thats about it!

Technically this guy aligns with Russia, deep at heart. Explains why he doesnt have issue with the things going on prior to Trump! Things like the Biden pay to play, Crimea falling to Russia and why Obama sent Ukraine blankets and food while Trump is sending them missiles and hardware.

Youre too partisan to see any of it, and I have SERIOUS reservations about a refugee holding such a high title in our military, especially one with such an ego problem.



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We are all refugees from somewhere... Except for the native Americans anyway.

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To be a refugee, by definition - one has to have been born in another country. 

To be a native American one must have NA ancestors. 

I know Democrats have a hard time with these basic words, so you're welcome.



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So you and I are neither refugees, but not native either. Perhaps things might be better if only true native Americans got to vote, or at least had far more weight applied to their votes than half-breeds like you and me. Kind of like super delegates I guess.

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I am native, I don't know about you... but I was born here! This is MY native land.

I would feel better if people running the country and serving in high positions of our military are natural born natives! In fact the founders made sure to stipulate that ONLY natural born citizens can be President of this country. I think they fell short because our Congress should be composed of the same native born citizens! The founders could never have imagined the diversity of this nation as it is today! They could have never imagined the mass transit system we have today, namely Jet Airlines that allow almost anyone to arrive here in less than 12 hours, whereas back then you had to take a near monthlong boat ride that was a 50/50 chance of making it.  

Native Americans have these things called "reservations" where their native customs have more weight applied to them than us half-breeds. So it already happens.



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Do you have native American ancestors? If not, I sure hope you're not claiming to be native while not allowing the same courtesy for Elizabeth.

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I am native to the United States of America. Im not Indian, nor do I claim to be of Native American Indian heritage! Therefore I would never dream of seeking benefits reserved for these indigenous people.



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If your basis for being a Native of the US is birthright citizenship, does the same theory apply to "anchor babies"?



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If your basis for being a Native of the US is birthright citizenship, does the same theory apply to "anchor babies"?


 Anchor babies have something illegal immigrants, refugees and naturalized citizens dont, a certificate of live birth from a US hospital. Its a gray area, but I feel strongly the parents are to blame. In such situations they should give up all rights to the child or take them home.  



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And I can tell you one thing FOR SURE - and thats the FACT Id never have to read off script when talking about family. How about you?



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Not really sure what you mean by that.

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What I mean is its wrong to come here illegally with the sole purpose of having your baby to skirt immigration laws.

But that dont stop them.



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And you can see the Lt. was not talking from the heart reading off a piece of paper giving his scripted back story that you seem to give so much weight to.  



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We are all refugees from somewhere... Except for the native Americans anyway.


 They aren't. Some came from Canada, some from Mexico and 15000 years ago they came from Asia. Land bridge ring a bell? Beringa?



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If they were here before Columbus "discovered" this land, I consider them native.

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If they were here before Columbus you can be pretty sure they are dead, buried in their native ground.



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If they were here before Columbus "discovered" this land, I consider them native.


 Consider them whatever you want, it's OK with me :) 

BTW, Vikings discovered the land not Columbus.

As for the Native Americans? They got one raw deal one right after another. So sad. "Westward expansion" "lies" "murder" 

Wife is traceable 1/4 Cherokee, her Dad 1/2. Kinda wish she would pursue it more. Not money or bennies but "heritage"

Did you know Columbus was a liberal? He sailed using other peoples money and ships, didn't know where he was going. Didn't know where he was when he got there!!! bwaaahaaaa



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After the circus this week on the hill, one can only conclude that this is a partisan hit-job by the Democrats. Trump asking Ukraine to do the right thing in investigating any possible corruption by the Biden's that may have carried over beyond the Obama Administration and into the Trump Administration are well within his scope of power, and in no way make him guilty of what he is investigating the Biden's for! In fact, if Biden is guilty of such things (as the video above seems to suggest) then the American people need to know about it BEFORE the election! And that is exactly what a FULL Senate hearing will do! It will expose and charge the guilty parties who are attempting to overturn the 2016 elections! It puts teeth on these Kangaroo impeachment hearings should they be proven partisan - which they most certainly are!



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After the circus this week on the hill, one can only conclude that this is a partisan hit-job by the Democrats.


 

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I can think of no other reason but politics where a Lt. Col. in our armed forces would go against their Commander in Chief... He is okay with trash talking his boss yet when someone doesn't show respect for his title he gets all huffy? It kind of rubbed me the wrong way and I don't think I've had issue with a member of our military since Private Manning! 



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As a member of the military, the colonel is sworn to carry out all LAWFUL orders from the president.

He is simply responding to a lawful request from Congress (in their Constitutional obligation of oversight) to see if any orders were unlawful... Like perhaps a quid pro quo for releasing Congressionally appropriated funds to Ukraine or something like that.

If President Trump truly suspects the Bidens of something, the proper course would be to alert the FBI about it. If the FBI believes there is a credible case, they may ask the Ukranian government for information. For President Trump to do so directly for domestic political gain is a crime, and to withhold Congressionally appropriated funding until said dirt on his domestic political opponent is received, is just another crime.

The White House is a powerful place indeed, but for the administration of either party to place their thumb on the scales of justice - ever, is a slap in the face to our great republic. Process matters Rex, as businessmen, one would think both you and the president would understand that.





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As a member of the military, the colonel is sworn to carry out all LAWFUL orders from the president.

He is simply responding to a lawful request from Congress (in their Constitutional obligation of oversight) to see if any orders were unlawful... Like perhaps a quid pro quo for releasing Congressionally appropriated funds to Ukraine or something like that.

If President Trump truly suspects the Bidens of something, the proper course would be to alert the FBI about it. If the FBI believes there is a credible case, they may ask the Ukranian government for information. For President Trump to do so directly for domestic political gain is a crime, and to withhold Congressionally appropriated funding until said dirt on his domestic political opponent is received, is just another crime.

The White House is a powerful place indeed, but for the administration of either party to place their thumb on the scales of justice - ever, is a slap in the face to our great republic. Process matters Rex, as businessmen, one would think both you and the president would understand that.

 


 

I am glad you feel that way PowerStroker, because the "crime" you describe is the very "crime" that President Trump was asking Ukraine to investigate. Trump told them clearly, I don't want no quid-pro-quo, I just want you to do the right thing!

Part of the reason we hired Trump was to drain the swamp of the dirty administration that always had their thumbs on the scales... It does not shock me one single bit that Democrats are trying to spin this around to save their own asses. 

But I think you will get your wish PowerStroker, if your partisan impeachment makes it to the Senate - there will be a REAL trial! And when that happens I think you will see the FBI involved. They are already asking to speak with the whistleblower last I read.

Democrats will never get impeachment past the Senate, and even putting it before the Senate would be political suicide for Democrats - the whistleblower will be unmasked and the Biden's would be required to testify along with a lot of other people being unfairly protected during this partisan Kangaroo court witch-hunt / fishing expedition going on in the House.



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Trump told them clearly, I don't want no quid-pro-quo, I just want you to do the right thing!

 


 

One of the reasons I advise people to tell the truth, is because it's the easiest thing to remember.

 



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Not a Colonel but a LT Colonel, big difference. Especially being a lying demo fuk with crainalrectumitis.

YES, absolutely. The truth is easiest to remember. And all I ever tell, bet you do, Sell does. Pretty good moral bunch here. (cept your dem leanings :)

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As I understand, LT colonel is a low grade colonel - a step below full colonel but considered to be a very high rank indeed as being only 2 steps away from Brigadier General.

Are you saying that during your time in the service, you never addressed a LT col as "Colonel"?

 

Correct me if I'm wrong...

 

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Leutenant colonel is a rank of commissioned officer in the armies, most marine forces and some air forces of the world, above a major and below a colonel. The rank of lieutenant colonel is often shortened to simply "colonel" in conversation and in unofficial correspondenceWikipedia
 


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PowerStroker wrote:

As I understand, LT colonel is a low grade colonel - a step below full colonel but considered to be a very high rank indeed as being only 2 steps away from Brigadier General.

Are you saying that during your time in the service, you never addressed a LT col as "Colonel"?

 

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, most marine forces and some air forces of the world, above a major and below a colonel. The rank of lieutenant colonel is often shortened to simply "colonel" in conversation and in unofficial correspondenceWikipedia
 



-- Edited by PowerStroker on Saturday 23rd of November 2019 06:46:54 PM


Actually we usually just called them SIR, it worked, hey liked that.

 

 It's "light colonel" for those in the know and NO they were not addressed as Colonel but as LT Colonel. My immediate commander was one, the other (squadron commander)was a "FULL BIRD COLONEL" as we called it.

BTW your beloved wiki even spelled it wrong leu is wrong like about everything else about them. Including calling one a colonel when they are not.  There are 2nd and 1st Lieutenants also but being pissant peons they just called them lewies. Above ranks stood different and were recognized/respected. Cept food hog lt colonels heeeheheheheheh hahahahah bwahahhaah



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So if a brigadier general came up and said hi, you wouldn't just say "Good afternoon general" but "Good afternoon brigadier general"?

I'm just curious.

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No we just call them SIR, much less complicated!

I thought on this some more. I don't believe we directly called any officer by their rank. Maybe some did but SIR was easier and they liked it. Now we indirectly called them by ranks such as "the Captains fighter is red X'd..." 

 



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That's what dems do, blame YOU for what illegal, corrupt acts they already did.


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That's what dems do, blame YOU for what illegal, corrupt acts they already did.


 Straight from Alinskys Rulez.


 Of course, it's how they tick. Or tock, or whatever they do. If they even have a clue



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You got a picture of her pussy?



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pussy, haha fukin good one!!! Just pissed myself and crapped at the same time!

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pussy, haha fukin good one!!! Just pissed myself and crapped at the same time!


 

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Na-na-na-na --- Hey-hey-hey GOODBYE!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gordon-sondland-recalled-as-ambassador-to-eu-after-impeachment-testimony

Guess his backstory was only important to partisan Democrats interested in trying to usurp the will of the American voter!

Now he can go back to Russia and tell his backstory to his comrades. 



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The majority of the American voters care about truth, Ambassador Sondland only provided such truth under oath to Congress as he was required to.

The same is true of Lt Col Vindman btw, who has been reassigned for telling the truth to Congress.

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Few things are more dangerous than people with power who only surround themselves with yes men.


 

I agree PowerStroker, which is exactly the reason I think the Democrat party is falling apart! Obama was the very pinnacle of surrounding himself with yes men! Now he has paddle boarded off into the sunset with his golden parachute helping him ride the tide while all his yes men and women fall on the sword like good little yes men and women. 

I think it's great that Trump is pulling back the curtain on the crooked Democrats! 

I can only imagine if Obama were President today, he would be letting China ship infected people in from Wuhan by the plane-loads, as fast as they could ship them here! Then he would stuff them all in cities like Minnesota or any number of China towns across the country.

I think Trump is justified in circling the wagons after that partisan sham of an impeachment! I suggested he do it a long time ago but he waited and had his day in court, or should I say the Senate. Acquitted!

 



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