China testing HIV drug as treatment for new coronavirus, AbbVie says

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Coronavirus

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

Was Gates and Soros.

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

I was nearly going to vote "man-made", but who knows ?...

It's "very easy" to suspect that we're all being silently exterminated since we're told that the world is over-populated. We have nukes & it's pollution, plastics, 5G radio waves, "climate change (lol)" & all the other stuff from cars & trucks lol that poison the air we breathe, food we eat & water we drink...

But I believe our politicians are doing a fantastic job to fix & clean all this stuff up...

As for the virus, we "hope" that it's a natural occurrence from mother nature, & that a vaccine will be found ASAP. But no doubt history reveals that "us" regular folks have always been the perfect guinea-pigs to see how our new "toys" work.

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

Soro's and Gates are both bigtime on reducing world population. There is info out there they did this.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

The Mayor of Wuhan says that FIVE (5) MILLION people left the City of Wuhan prior to the travel restrictions!

THAT IS FIVE MILLION PEOPLE! 5,000,000!

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/m/1154a490-decc-3aee-a54c-b4e56157133c/mayor-of-wuhan%2C-epicenter-of.html

They are also saying that the virus is transmutable during the incubation period, which is 10-14 days and during that time a person can show no symptoms at all! That pretty much means that all the temperature checks being done at the airport aren't going to do much to ensuring that the people getting off planes - FROM WUHAN, aren't infected! Of course these people are fleeing China because they knew it wouldn't be long before China started locking down the city! So they come over here and infect us, knowing it has to be better than getting sick in communist China!

The way that China censors the press there can be no doubt that it's much worse than they are letting on! You only see photos of clean facilities and high end hospital rooms in the media and I have been hearing that much more realistic and startling photos are being censored and the people passing off the real situation on the ground are being jailed!

I realize we have had these kinds of flu related epidemics in the past, but history shows every so often a real nasty one kills a lot of people. Same could be said of wars, earthquakes, wild fires, tornados, hurricanes and other such natural disasters.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Oh Great, someone in China figured out how to make the AIDS virus into a passable airborne flu!

China testing HIV drug as treatment for new coronavirus, AbbVie says

Jan 26 (Reuters) - China is testing an HIV drug as a treatment for symptoms of the new coronavirus that is rapidly spreading, said drugmaker AbbVie Inc on Sunday.

China health authorities requested the drug to help with the government's efforts to address the crisis, according to Adelle Infante, a spokeswoman for North Chicago, Illinois-based AbbVie.

Aluvia, which is also known as Kaletra, is a combination of lopinavir and ritonavir.

In guidance published on Thursday, the government said there is no effective anti-virus medicine but suggested taking two lopinavir/ritonavir pills and inhaling a dose of nebulized alpha-interferon twice a day.

Health authorities around the world are racing to prevent a pandemic after more than 2,000 people were infected in China and 56 have died after contracting the virus.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-testing-hiv-drug-treatment-191100709.html

You can't even make this $hit up folks! It's just like I voted! The virus come from the dirty snatch of a Wuhan hooker!

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

You might find this interesting...

thebulletin.org/2020/01/outbreaks-of-lethal-diseases-like-ebola-and-the-wuhan-coronavirus-happen-regularly-the-us-government-just-cut-funding-for-the-hospitals-that-deal-with-them/

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

So we have had a chance to laugh about something serious, seems to be the "American" thing to do in most all logic trees... Whenever I start finding myself becoming too serious, or too much of an asshole; I always take a moment to laugh at myself in the mirror. It seems to work.

But now we're on to the serious phase, which from the looks of things is turning out to be a quarantine effort to contain the virus while they figure out what to do.

While most healthy, unaffected people will agree - this is the appropriate action. For the people infected? Well that just depends on where you live.. Right now in China, and pretty much the world over - sick people are being quarantined. Again, totally fine if you're not infected...

Yet it begs the question of "what if" my city or state should have an outbreak? Would the Government here in the USA quarantine cities within the United States just like they are doing in China? The precedent being set seems pretty clear - stop the spread! It's logical, at least from the perspective that I don't perceive to be sick, but what if it can't be controlled and were on the cusp of some global pandemic the likes of TV show "The Walking Dead"? Again with the humor, but what makes it even juicer is the fact that it's playing out that way with the quarantines, we just don't have the zombie element. Let's face it, even without the element of the zombie, if people just start falling over dead and it mutates into something that cannot be contained it would cause civil unrest in just the same ways, granted this is worse case scenario kinda stuff...

But as the numbers grow and the media sensationalizes it, one has to seriously wonder about anyone who may be sick. Even if it's just a cold or something, people don't want to take the risk - and that is perhaps the stigma that is going around right now...

So, until next time - drink your orange juice and be well! biggrin

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

You can never ever "lock-this-stuff-down"...Only count the numbers, & plot them up-on-the-map.

If your business is to still fly into China, you will likely pay the price of quarantine, delays & stress, even if you're not infected...

The biggest wealth you have is your health.

Stan_147 · Veteran User

With 2500 new infections confirmed in Wuhan in the last 24 hours, this nugget has appeared:

The virus spreads very easily from person to person, it can survive for up to five days on surfaces, it has an incubation period of up to 14 days, and people can spread it even if they arent showing any symptoms at all.

Its also been confirmed the the genetics have been modified and contain elements of HIV. This appears to be a weaponized strain. And... its mutating!

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

It's getting pretty spooky out there Stan, and I agree with you that this appears to be a weaponized strain!

The massive hospital China has built is also scary, what are they going to do with a hospital full of sick people but cover up the massive deaths of thousands? To be stuck in such a situation, while sick, just sounds like a recipe for failure!

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

And as if the common flu and coronavirus wasn't enough, now we have this...

Wild monkeys with deadly strain of herpes are spreading across Florida, wildlife group warns

https://www.yahoo.com/news/wild-monkeys-deadly-strain-herpes-192713174.html

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Almost makes one wish we had single payer universal healthcare in this country huh?

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

Latest news down this way is that some of 5-vaccines being used for the disease are a double-edged-sword, where they may offer some relief, but alter your DNA, for ever, just like nukes...

"Manifest Injustice" is where to look if you want the story, but I can't provide a link, as they must be getting heat from the gov't.

World depopulation seems high on the agenda at the moment...

Try this, it may work..

https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fblog.nomorefakenews.com%2F2020%2F02%2F06%2Fnew-vaccines-permanently-alter-your-dna%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHkYR8Uohcl-Lh3_nfW8f_EaI5PtQ

-- Edited by Rastus on Friday 7th of February 2020 03:16:35 AM

-- Edited by Rastus on Friday 7th of February 2020 03:18:09 AM

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

PowerStroker wrote:
Almost makes one wish we had single payer universal healthcare in this country huh?

You wouldn't know but look at the VA, hows that working out.

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

Rastus wrote:
World depopulation seems high on the agenda at the moment...

Do some looking into Soros and Gates, that is their agenda.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Well, the world is vastly overpopulated considering the limited resources of this planet and its sensitivity to carbon emissions.

I'd suggest changing the tax code to cap the number of claimable dependents at 1 or 2 as a solution though.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

PowerStroker wrote:
Well, the world is vastly overpopulated considering the limited resources of this planet and its sensitivity to carbon emissions.

I'd suggest changing the tax code to cap the number of claimable dependents at 1 or 2 as a solution though.

confuse

Sounds like communist China!

Interested in a one way ticket to Wuhan, PowerStroker? I think me and the boys could scrounge up $207 they claim the airfare from the USA to Wuhan cost right now, if layover in some 3rd world country of course. But them's your people, so you don't have a problem with that, Right?

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Adjusting tax policy to incentivise people to make responsible reproductive decisions isn't like China, because people can still choose to be irresponsible, it will just cost them more.

How many kids do you have?

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

I reject your theories that unfairly discriminate against families who have the means to have more than two children! Why should they be punished at tax time for replenishing our nation with new citizens!? I also find your thoughts on this matter to be conflicted and bigoted considering the lengths you went to prevent having any kids! In other words, you're hardly the unbiased observer on this topic!

I have two kids, one of which is already 18... How about you, PowerStroker? How many people besides yourself have you cared for from birth to age 18?

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
1. I reject your theories that unfairly discriminate against families who have the means to have more than two children!
2. Why should they be punished at tax time for replenishing our nation with new citizens!?
3. I also find your thoughts on this matter to be conflicted and bigoted considering the lengths you went to prevent having any kids! In other words, you're hardly the unbiased observer on this topic!
4. I have two kids, one of which is already 18... How about you, PowerStroker?
5. How many people besides yourself have you cared for from birth to age 18?

Whoa !!! What a cruel post...Felt obliged to butt-in...

R1. Well it appears that since Mr.Trumpdt won't tax the multi-billionaires of the country a little more, (who are squandering all money possible from the citizens via debt, & enslavement), the money has to come from somewhere...Why not find the missing trillions that are poached from the Defense Budget to help the citizens here ?...

R2. Sadly, not all people are born into a family that wanted children. There's likely imo more "accidents" that happen than planned births. See R1 for solution.

R3. On the contrary imo. He balances the scales of choice perfectly.

R4. Life is just as tough with-out children, if not more so. Understandably, people & communities will always find concessions for families in need before anyone else.

R5. From what I can tell, PowerStroker's concerns involve every "slice-of-the-pie" that make-up our society, regardless of political standing. Lots of way to help-out & care about people.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Thank you Rastus!

Rex, with 2 children my proposal wouldn't tax you a cent more because you and your wife responsibly chose to replace yourselves only, without adding to the population beyond that. I commend you on that decision. Your notion however that people with means should "replenish" the planet with more and more people than the planet can sustain is, I feel, very unwise. A lizard in an aquarium will not grow beyond the size its environment can sustain, yet in the wild can grow quite large. If such logic exists in nature, why not then in your brain?

The planet was much better off with fewer humans.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

So you feel my post is cruel, eh Rastus? Well I don't know where you come up with that shyte!

PowerStrokers suggestion that people be penalized for having more than two kids is just further proof that liberals just want to impose their will on people without any regard for the rights of others! If you subscribe to that notion Rastus, then perhaps you need only look in the mirror to see what cruel really looks like!

As for PowerStroker, I only had two kids because that is all I got... not because of any other reason! I guess some people don't get any, so I should be thankful in that regard, but it takes a real man and a real woman to make babies.

Lots of liberals like to have a litter of kids for the benefits - from the child tax credits, to the free housing on down to the free healthcare and food! It really is a package deal and by far it's the liberals who will have kids by multiple different men to get even more money in the form of child support! This is typical liberal behavior that is encouraged by your party... Gay sex, sex with multiple partners - abortions... You name it!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

I'm not suggesting people be penalized for having more than two kids, only that tax BENEFITS be capped at 2 kids.

What does gay sex and abortion have to do with tax policy? Last I checked there were no tax deductions for having gay sex or abortions.

Are you suggesting there should be? Honestly I don't know how we could afford to have taxpayers subsidize gay sex or abortions after the massive debt financed subsidy we are now giving to the billionaire class since the recent tax code change.

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Sunday 9th of February 2020 11:43:33 PM

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
1.So you feel my post is cruel, eh Rastus? Well I don't know where you come up with that shyte!
2.PowerStrokers suggestion that people be penalized for having more than two kids is just further proof that liberals just want to impose their will on people without any regard for the rights of others! If you subscribe to that notion Rastus, then perhaps you need only look in the mirror to see what cruel really looks like!
3.As for PowerStroker, I only had two kids because that is all I got... not because of any other reason! I guess some people don't get any, so I should be thankful in that regard, but it takes a real man and a real woman to make babies.
4.Lots of liberals like to have a litter of kids for the benefits - from the child tax credits, to the free housing on down to the free healthcare and food! It really is a package deal and by far it's the liberals who will have kids by multiple different men to get even more money in the form of child support! This is typical liberal behavior that is encouraged by your party... Gay sex, sex with multiple partners - abortions... You name it!

LOL !

R1. I replied to this thread first, only to then read in the following one, that you'd likely put a serious dent in that bottle-of-Booker's you've been saving lol ! I'd say it worked fine, & no doubt you enjoyed it !

R2. The gov't's around the world need to "inform" the population on a regular basis, about over-population, & its possible burden on our little planet to feed us all yadda, yadda, yadda...But sadly, "our world" & the decisions based on our lives remains dictated by military means. This means a countries population is measured in military strength, at least in the sense of man-to-man combat, & the real biggie being available weaponry/arms...And how do you instruct folks around the world that we're going to deny your birth-right to have children ?...

R3. Sounds like a "3rd-child" might be on-the-cards...

R4. How else are you going top feed Mr.Trumpdt's army ?

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

PowerStroker wrote:
I'm not suggesting people be penalized for having more than two kids, only that tax BENEFITS be capped at 2 kids.

What does gay sex and abortion have to do with tax policy? Last I checked there were no tax deductions for having gay sex or abortions.
Are you suggesting there should be? Honestly I don't know how we could afford to have taxpayers subsidize gay sex or abortions after the massive debt financed subsidy we are now giving to the billionaire class since the recent tax code change.

That is exactly what you are suggesting PowerStroker! If benefits are capped after two kids it sure is a penalty! ANY WAY YOU SLICE IT! Typical liberal deceptive behavior, I'd expect nothing less from you and I'll call you out on it EVERY TIME!

And yet another deceptive lie from PowerStroker! Two gay people having sex do get a tax deduction if they marry! It's called filing "jointly" and there are tremendous benefits for doing so! You might not know because you're not married, but again you are talking about things you know absolutely nothing about.

I myself could not vote for a homo for President, it just goes against my values! Is it right? In my mind it is! With regards to the tax code change, that may be something you and I agree on because each time I hear about people like Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk cashing out on billions of dollars worth of stock at a time it really does bother me. All the while companies like Amazon pay zero federal tax and Tesla and SpaceX get all kinds of concessions and tax incentives for their customers to buy their products. If you ask me, it is my opinion that both Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are the biggest con-men in modern history! Bezos real last name isn't even Bezos! And Elon Musk is just the dork the company keeps around to keep everyones mind off the fact they are cheating their way to the top.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Rastus wrote:
SELLC wrote:
1.So you feel my post is cruel, eh Rastus? Well I don't know where you come up with that shyte!
2.PowerStrokers suggestion that people be penalized for having more than two kids is just further proof that liberals just want to impose their will on people without any regard for the rights of others! If you subscribe to that notion Rastus, then perhaps you need only look in the mirror to see what cruel really looks like!
3.As for PowerStroker, I only had two kids because that is all I got... not because of any other reason! I guess some people don't get any, so I should be thankful in that regard, but it takes a real man and a real woman to make babies.
4.Lots of liberals like to have a litter of kids for the benefits - from the child tax credits, to the free housing on down to the free healthcare and food! It really is a package deal and by far it's the liberals who will have kids by multiple different men to get even more money in the form of child support! This is typical liberal behavior that is encouraged by your party... Gay sex, sex with multiple partners - abortions... You name it!

LOL !
R1. I replied to this thread first, only to then read in the following one, that you'd likely put a serious dent in that bottle-of-Booker's you've been saving lol ! I'd say it worked fine, & no doubt you enjoyed it !
R2. The gov't's around the world need to "inform" the population on a regular basis, about over-population, & its possible burden on our little planet to feed us all yadda, yadda, yadda...But sadly, "our world" & the decisions based on our lives remains dictated by military means. This means a countries population is measured in military strength, at least in the sense of man-to-man combat, & the real biggie being available weaponry/arms...And how do you instruct folks around the world that we're going to deny your birth-right to have children ?...
R3. Sounds like a "3rd-child" might be on-the-cards...
R4. How else are you going top feed Mr.Trumpdt's army ?

R1. I been drinking Red Label Scotch lately. Been having a hard time finding Bakers at my local spirits store, plus it's very dear $$ and the price went up to a little north of $60! Special occasions only I am afraid.

R2. Over-population!? WTF you talking about? There is lots of room all over the planet for more people! Maybe not stupid people, but they are naturally weeded out anyway.

R3. I doubt that, kids are VERY expensive - even with the tax breaks! Kids require more than just money, they require time and love which can be hard to offer as they grow up. I will admit that having kids is an odd experience, you raise the kid for 18 years and he/she leaves the nest.. Then you see them every now and again and think back to when they were really young and wonder how the time has passed so quickly and if you had done the absolute best you could. It's hard work, and it never ends. It's for sure a commitment for most and the ones who don't see it that way are the ones who should maybe not be having kids.

R4. Prior to being the Trump Army is was the Obama Army... Why don't you just accurately describe it as the AMERICAN Armed Forces?

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Having space for people doesn't mean the planet can support that many people in other regards. Farm land is diminishing, fresh water is diminishing, oil is finite. There are a lot more considerations than just space my friend.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Yeah well I hear they are going to be shipping a lot off to Mars and other places in outer space soon! What with "space-force" and other such global space programs I think it's clear we could probably dump a billion or so on Mars! Talk about finite resources, there you go!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Ok tell you what, once we ship a billion people to Mars, then we can up the number of deductible children to 3, deal?

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Nah... This is America, Jack!

If a woman wants to squirt a dozen kids out her vagina it's her God given American right to do so! And she will have every advantage afforded to her at tax time as has been tradition!

What is wrong with you PowerStroker!? Someone has to work after you retire to keep the Social Security coffers paying out into retirement!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

I agree it is her right to have as many kids as she wants, but to get a tax break on every single one only incentivizes irresponsible reproductive decisions. Which is why I suggest capping the deductible children at 2.

This obsession you have with babies is something I don't understand. The world is already grossly overpopulated for the resources it has.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

You mean places like China and India are grossly overpopulated?

We only have about 350 million people here in the USA, PowerStroker... China and India have close to two billion EACH!

So where does the overpopulation issue come from? Not the USA!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Maybe so, but I look at the word as a whole since we only have one. Rather than place blame on which countries are the worst offenders, we should do everything we can to reduce the problem, even if we aren't the cause of most of it. China presently has a 1 child policy which is far more harsh than my suggestion of capping deductible children at 2, so it's not like they're not doing anything about it.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Oh that's real nice that you look at the world as a whole, even if it's detached from reality!

Fact is, the world is not a whole and China and other places with population problems are not interested in your tom-foolery. In fact, they want to have 4 to every 1 of you to ensure they can kill you off in a land invasion. But you keep the blinders on, keep blaming the USA for the worlds problems... Obama was a big fan of that too.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

All I'm suggesting is leadership by example.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

What? Like communist China?

We can unleash a deadly virus to shrink our numbers? Abort babies at near term? Allow Homosexuality to spread disease?

Hey, you liberals really are communist!

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Well they are blaming the virus on the 1000 point hit to the DOW today!

But I am sure Democrats like PowerStroker are not only happy, but hoping for even more carnage in the market - despite the fact that such an event would only hurt them too!

Who really knows why people are selling off, or if it's a combined effort.. all I know is I'm glad that I am not holding any stocks or 401k's today!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

I don't believe I have stated a hope for carnage in the market or anywhere else thank you very much.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

PowerStroker wrote:
I don't believe I have stated a hope for carnage in the market or anywhere else thank you very much.

Just that dead guy on the side of the road who wouldn't keep his mouth shut, huh?

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

Yo,

I "did" read an article where it suggested that although the virus exists, China is actually using the incident to hide behind the fact that their air-pollution is so bad, (when counting-the-numbers of people infected), since the symptoms are identical...

I'll chase-it-up if anyone's interested...

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Chase it up! I heard China created the virus to thwart all the protest..

And you know what? The streets are clear and the mass protest have stopped!

Coincidence?

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
Chase it up! I heard China created the virus to thwart all the protest..
And you know what? The streets are clear and the mass protest have stopped!
Coincidence?

Here you go SELLC...

Regretfully, a link can't be made, but google "No more fake news John Rappoport", & you can read-up on it all...

It "looks" like another "history-repeating-itself" type-of-event, with the way gov'ts are managing/engineering things...

https://nomorefakenews.com/

-- Edited by Rastus on Wednesday 26th of February 2020 01:52:29 AM

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

Now I want a Corona and all I gots is Natural Ice and a bottle Rye.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Good to see you Shawnee!

Just opened a bottle of Bakers Bourbon as it's been awhile... man is that stuff strong! Been drinking mostly 80 proof Scotch and almost forgot how the 107 bites! For example, the other night I was finishing off the tail end of some 12 y.o. black label and decided to crack open that bottle of Bakers, anyway - I hadn't chilled it and just poured a warm shot and took it straight just like the Scotch before it... for whatever reason Johnny Walker and Baker Beam weren't getting along that night and I choked on it because I just wasn't acclimated to the bite! LOL, half of it came up thru my mouth the other half thru my noise where it started to almost vaporize my entire face! It was like alcohol fumes were inescapable and it was quite the ordeal! Immediately cleaned myself up and put that bottle of Bakers in the freezer and treated it with the respect it deserved last night and let me tell you... twas a good night!

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Now it would seem the CDC is suggesting that people stock up for what they call "serious disruptions to everyday life"!

So I can only imagine the run on the grocery stores as many people will be now panic buying.

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

I'm mostly here Sell, just don't always post. Bakers or Makers? I like the Makers but $$. Been into JD Rye lately. Of course can get all the shine I want too :)

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

It is Bakers, but I am starting to think maybe I got a bad bottle or something! confuse

Had a few shots again last night and noticed my blood pressure spiked to 179/105 P85! Right after about three shots! The night before I had a fluttering feeling in the beat after switching off the Scotch and and onto the Bakers...

I don't even know if I want to test my theory on it tonight! LOL, might just send for some more Scotch as apparently I either got a bad bottle of Bourbon or I have turned into a pussy the past few months? It has to be a bad batch or something because this stuff used to make me feel like a Champion - albeit I haven't had any since last year. Don't know what to think about that, you ever got a bad batch of Bourbon or Shine?

Stan_147 · Veteran User

Shawnee_B wrote:
I'm mostly here Sell, just don't always post. Bakers or Makers? I like the Makers but $$. Been into JD Rye lately. Of course can get all the shine I want too :)

Apple pie?

its been a long time since I had some!

Stan_147 · Veteran User

As far as the global pandemic goes. Start building your pantry NOW. The next few weeks are going to get crazier than weve seen.

They have lost trajectory, which means they cannot trace new local pockets of the outbreak. The reinfection rate is staggering. Im getting my information from several sources, not all of them public. The HIV components are causing a more viral type mutation. Easier to transmit and catch.

Still not convinced this is a weapon?