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Returning Iran's $1.3 Billion pursuant to a court order
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Carpet bombing Iraq with $12 Billion taxpayer dollars
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Having a black president
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That's right folks, you heard it here first. If you are someone who gets worked up about a plane hauling 1.3 Billion dollars to Iran... Even if it isn't taxpayer dollars but simply returning Iran's own money with interest, pursuant to a settlement ordered by a court that was set up by the Reagan administration. And, if you happen to be an abnormally dense person who even after repeatedly hearing the truth of the matter still gets upset, then WAIT TILL YOU HEAR ABOUT THIS:

Imagine if you will - 21 military cargo flights packed absolutely FULL of hundred dollar bills being sent to Iraq. 12 BILLION DOLLARS, An amount that took 21 military flights to haul, and a pile of money so large that it could be seen from space. And imagine this was US taxpayer dollars. Well, you don't need to imagine it, because it actually happened.

"Pentagon officials determined that one giant C-130 Hercules cargo plane could carry $2.4 billion in shrink-wrapped bricks of $100 bills. They sent an initial full planeload of cash, followed by 20 other flights to Iraq by May 2004 in a $12-billion haul that U.S. officials believe to be the biggest international cash airlift of all time."

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2011-jun-13-la-fg-missing-billions-20110613-story.html

 



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Respectfully, what is worse, is giving these folks nukes...

No money will ever off-set that mess...

Let's lose the IAEA !!!

Sleepy-Joe can print money out of thin air via the Federal Reserve Corporation, so what's the problem ???

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So does this mean I'm going to stop hearing about Obama's cash shipment to Iran now that it has been dwarfed by the one Bush sent to Iraq?

And who voted having a black president is worse?

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I think it's natural for purest blacks and whites to want to remain "pure"... I don't see any racisim in this whatsoever! 

It's someone who is confused about humanity that will resort to racism. 

As a "car" guy I catagorize this as people who are brand purest, and those who like to "modify"... 

I'm in both camps... and I was not in favor of giving Iran anything but another decade in court!



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C'mon fellas...

I certainly haven't voted, due to there not being a suitable ideal...

It appears that the "click-bait" worked PowerStroker...

Peace !

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Rastus, sometimes when PowerStorker crafts his race baiting threads it's more fun to just rattle his cage! LOL

I'm probably the least racist person in this forum! That is why I can joke about it!

Although, racism isn't just exclusive to white people... many black folk are racist as fuck also! 

All I was saying is that some people feel more comfortable making babies and being with their own race! And there is nothing wrong with that!

It's also a fact most white people will vote white, while most black people would vote black. That's not racist! That's just nature!

 



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PowerStroker wrote:

So does this mean I'm going to stop hearing about Obama's cash shipment to Iran now that it has been dwarfed by the one Bush sent to Iraq?

And who voted having a black president is worse?

 Obama was a POS. Bushes 10z worse



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No Rastus... Obama's entire Presidency can be summed up to this post by PowerStroker...

Whenever Obama would do something incredibly stupid, Democrats would always pull the race card... it was the hallmark of Obama's Presidency!

You didn't like something Obama said or did? You must be a racist!

I had to endure that shit for EIGHT WHOLE YEARS! Worse than COVID really!



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Actually the reason Obama's presidency can be summed up by this post, is because any example you find of his actions being controversial, can be countered by a Republican example of something similar, but 12 times worse.

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I just don't understand how you could even consider Obama giving money to Iran for hostages is anything like the WAR in Iraq... might I add a war where we sucessfully completed our mission! 

Have we had even a peep of trouble from Saddam since? The answer is NO!

We can't say the same for Iran...

 



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It was for the nuclear agreement that we finally agreed to reimburse Iran's own money pursuant to a legitimate court order.

So when Trump blew up that agreement, did he get the money back?

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Iran blew up that agreement by flouting it since DAY ONE! 

Nobody did anything about it because of the stain it would leave... the stain of, "what a stupid idea"...

But again, to disagree with Obama meant you were a racist...

So let's blame it on John Kerry if it makes you feel better, on account of the fact he's white... or is he? 

I'm sure they both have their hands full welcoming in all them illegal immigrants Desantis has blessed them with! 

Imagine that, two guys who both had a big hand in the Iran cash payout living close together on Martha's Vinyard... 

And why would Obama want to live somewhere it's 90% white? Why didn't he go back to his Chicago hometown and fix the mess they got going on over there?

These are all valid questions PowerStroker, if you could clear them up for me that would be marvelous! Maybe not as marvelous as being dumped off in Martha's Vinyard, but pretty nice!



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Iran blew up that agreement by flouting it since DAY ONE! 

 

 

And that is even OVERLOOKING the fact that at the time Iran was holding American service members hostage! Breaking a long-standing precedent that America does not negotiate with terrorist. 

Because you know that is what Iran is, right PowerStroker? 

Last I checked they were still listed as a terrorist supporting state. Both before, during and even now. 



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Stop giving away US dollars to any other country. How about taking care of our own first. We do not have "an overflowing horn of plenty" to share with everyone but US citizens. Money is printed from air, $1 today is worth 5 cents they say, I doubt even that much.

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A simple no would suffice Rex. Trump did not get Iran's money back when he exited the deal.

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Some might say it would have been simpler to just not give Iran the money in the first place.



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We returned Iranian money to Iran. It's not like Obama carpet bombed Iraq with 12 billion in US taxpayer dollars.

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Sorry PowerStroker but as usual, you're wrong!

Iran placed an order for weapons under the guise that it had changed it's ways! The second that order was being processed it placed a radical in charge of their country - thus voiding said order!

Sorry Iran, no refunds on special orders! But then we have idiots like you, Obama and Kerry! Load up planes full of cash so that Iran could sponsor more terror!

If you ask me, that's more of a security risk than Trumps documents!

Then of course Obama spent TRILLIONS during his tenure, was even carpet bombing the middle East and traveling all over the world like some kind of rock star!

I don't see Biden making these kinds of mistakes, and I can FOR SURE understand why Biden keeps Obama far away most of the times.

In fact, I honestly think Biden was carrying Obama his entire term behind the scene as VP... 



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The international court which the Reagan administration helped to set up disagrees with your assessment.

You hated Obama before he even took the oath of office. If it wasn't race, what then? I've been waiting on that answer for years now.

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I think you need to take a swim in the deep area of the pool PowerStroker! We were hashing this out back in 2008 on this forum when Obama won! It was a major upset to McCain and the Republican Party but Obama had the gift of a silver tongue. 

If you look back when Obama won you will see I welcomed him with open arms as I would any incoming President! Can't you ever remember the days you were too young to know Republican or Democrat and just had respect for your POTUS? Back before the internet, back when if you said something to the wrong group chat (playground) you got punched in the nose? I can still remember them days PowerStroker! 

Obama himself had race issues... dispite the nation overwhelmingly electing him to office - NOT ONCE, but TWICE he still had the gull to suggest that America was racist! This did not sit well with me, and it was for the most part the hallmark of his Presidency where if you didn't agree with him, you were a racist! Even if you were black and didn't agree with him, you'd be considered an Uncle Tom... 

But Obama had his moments, and he did do some good things... which is why I never once thought that he would ever be disrespected the way Trump has... because Trump did some stupid shit, but he also did some good things too! This goes back to the whole being a kid and not knowing about the left or the right...

So if you're trying to use race as a wedge issue to draw attention away from current events it's probably just going to reflet more poorly on you... considering our current POTUS is white. 

Why would you even add "Having a black president" to your poll? Did you not cast the first stone with that stunt?



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Also, regadless how upset I was with Obama over his eight year tenure, I ALWAYS defended him whenever it came to Putin or "most" foreign affairs! 

The plane stuffed with cash in the dark of night to Iran was just too over the top for me though.



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Also, regardless how upset I was with Obama over his eight year tenure, I ALWAYS defended him whenever it came to Putin or "most" foreign affairs! 

The plane stuffed with cash in the dark of night to Iran was just too over the top for me though.

 

Oh, & don't forget that he was flying around in AF-1 when we got nuked by Fukushima Daiichi going kerboom...

He in reality should have had declared a mass evacuation for your health & safety...

Instead, we have old & aging nukes, ready to go kerboom, due to license extensions...

As Shawnee suggested, the UK is starting to use Tesla technologies, & the US-of-A is using this too in your submarines ( free energy from the vacuum ), so it's about time to bring this stuff out !



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I'd still be interested in knowing more about this vacuum technology you're talking about...

I'm told water boils at 70F degrees under a vacuum... could this be the new big thing? Putting a vacuum on water and letting it boil away at daytime tempratures?

Help me get my mind around it Rastus! Because wouldn't that be a form of steam energy at it's core too?



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1. I'd still be interested in knowing more about this vacuum technology you're talking about...

2. I'm told water boils at 70F degrees under a vacuum... could this be the new big thing? Putting a vacuum on water and letting it boil away at daytime tempratures?

3. Help me get my mind around it Rastus! Because wouldn't that be a form of steam energy at it's core too?

 

R1. You need to read books on the subject, as written by ret. US-Army Lt.Col. Thomas Beardon...Hint hint !

R2. Ships make fresh water onboard via one of two methods, reverse-osmosis, & flash evaporation...Flash evaporation uses the vacuum principal, where sea-water is turned into fresh drinkable water via boiling-off the brine in a container under vacuum, so that at temperatures as low as 42-deg-C will have the sea-water boil away. The more vacuum created, the lower the boiling point.

R3. See answers 1 & 2, & no, nothing to do with steam "energy" per-se, but conversion of the state of a fluid into a gas.



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