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EARLY 2003 INTERNATIONAL 6.0 TURBO DIESEL INFORMATION


Here are some interesting facts about the early 6.0 liter Turbo Diesel found in 2003/2004 Models.

The 6.0 liter engine is an International motor that was shoe horned into an F-Series pickup truck. They are rated at 340 horsepower with 560 foot pounds of torque.

The early turbo chargers are a 10 blade Garret units that are known to pull harder and wistle louder than that of the later turbos.

The early 6.0 has been noted as having problems with the injectors.

There is also a known cold start issuse with them that the dealer has offered up a computer reprogram/flash to fix. I myself have found that this flash just takes away from the performance and is likley a de-tune with provisions to cycle the injectors on cold mornings. If anything this new program places even more load on an already loaded electrical system.

The 6.0 Super Duty needs 1000 CCA batteries in order to power up the glow plugs, cycle the pumps, and injectors. If your batteries are not 1000 CCA or are getting old YOU WILL HAVE PROBLEMS STARTING YOUR RIG ON COLD MORNINGS, weather you got the new programing or not. Best to have a block heater for the cold mornings.

There is also another little known fact about the oil filter caps. Factory Motorcraft filters should only be used. If you purchase an aftermarket FRAM or other brand it will require the use of the new cap. Once the oil filter cap has been changed it no longer seals proper if you ever decide to go back to a motorcraft filter. If you get your oil changes done at a quick lube, be sure to ask who manufatures the filter they are selling. If the filter they are selling you includes a new cap, insist that they give you back your old one in case you ever want to use an Original Equipment filter.

Well I hope that helps people, please feel free to add to this list so we can stay better informed on our trucks.



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You wouldnt say that while cutting thru 2 feet of snow pushing 14+ pounds of boost in 4 wheel high.

Hell you can get these things pumping upwards of 42 lbs of boost!

But they cost a fricking mint!


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My nuts crank out 42lb's of boost........ that figure don't mean shit to me, bitch!!!!!

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Yeah I agree... You are a real air-head.



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How many times you going to say that Stoma?

For the 10th time..... NO

Go find your girlfriend MS. R, maybe she will do it.

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So if the truck NEEDS 1000cca batteries, why doesn't it come with them from the factory?

Oh yeah, the inductive heating flash for the injectors is a detune. Where in the hell did you get this information from?

42 PSI in a 6.0? Yeah....once.

It'll stretch the head bolts and will start using coolant.

Not to mention to get 42psi, you'll likely have 1400 degrees EGT, which isn't helping ANYTHING.

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So if the truck NEEDS 1000cca batteries, why doesn't it come with them from the factory?

Oh yeah, the inductive heating flash for the injectors is a detune. Where in the hell did you get this information from?

42 PSI in a 6.0? Yeah....once.

It'll stretch the head bolts and will start using coolant.

Not to mention to get 42psi, you'll likely have 1400 degrees EGT, which isn't helping ANYTHING.



You make me laugh my ass off dude! No the trucks didnt come with 1000CCA batteries, but there are many things on the Powerstroke that have been proven to fail and need upgrading. For you to say otherwise makes you look like an ignorant hillbilly. In cold weather where I am at you best have a few 1000 CCA batteries in there for them sub-zero days, regardless what the factory has put in there.

The inductive heating flash isnt worth jack IMHO. I get that from hands on expereince. I had it done and really noticed a lack of power, and I am not the only one. Sure it does help the vehicle start easier, but really if people would quit putting fuel additives in their fuel, the injectors would never need such agressive actuation prior to start up. I have noticed a sizable decrease in power since the flash, and to be honest, I wish I never had it done.

42PSI is quite possible, more than once even. The people streaching head bolts are the hill-willams that dont know how to drive. Yes I agree the head bolts are for shit on the Powerstroke, however I have found that factory head bolts are for shit on most ALL factory engines now days. ARP is the solution.

As far as your 1400 degrees statement, you can stick that in your pipe and smoke it. I have run SEVERAL vehicles with nitrous oxide and I know for a fact that unless you starve it for fuel, do something stupid, or get carried away, things will typically be just fine used in moderation.

Moderation.... That may be a tuff one for you huh?



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Someone is going to have to tell me how make a diesel engine run "lean"....

After all, doesn't a diesel fill the cylinder completelyt with air and then add enough fuel to do what is desired?

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NITROUS OXIDE LOWERS COMBUSTION TEMPS IN A DIESEL!

Don't talk to me about cold. I worked at the fucking DIAVIK DIAMOND MINE in the ARCTIC CIRCLE. NONE of the trucks up there have 1000 CCA batteries, and they are in -50*F temperatures on a regular basis.

As well? You can't 'OVER NITROUS' a diesel engine. It will merely snuff the combustion charge out, and cause loss of power and smoke.

Nothing wrong with the inductive heating flash, but I'm not going to get into that.

Arguing with me is like masturbating in public. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

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While jacking off in public is not something I would condone, telling Paul Bunion tales seems to be in fashion within the web forms.

So tell me @ -50 degrees one would imagine these vehicles are using their block heaters? Given the amount of money a Diamond mine would budget for such excavations I would also imagine they have these cords and such sitting anywhere and everywhere, and if not, they are left running. Am I right?

For the Urban Hillbilly whom runs down yonder, leaves his truck out overnight in -20 degrees and stumbles out in the morning to get home before everyone wakes up, two 1000 CCA batteries is the ticket. Where as the neighbors (a whole block of them) might not think kindly of your truck outside dieseling 5 or 6 hours. Hell in some places you would be lucky to come back and find your truck... Left running or not. 



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For the Urban Hillbilly whom runs down yonder, leaves his truck out overnight in -20 degrees and stumbles out in the morning to get home before everyone wakes up,



So.. you guys are all a bunch of drunken bums that don't go home at night, or what?

Any "normal" person is going to be prepared for the vagaries of weather... I'm sure that winter happens pretty much "on schedule" and no amount of wishful thinking is going to alter that.

In real life, we can roll with the punches - or we can get knocked down....



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Ladies and gentlemen we have a hard ass here!

You are right. More power to you if your prepared at all times for anything and everything.

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Ladies and gentlemen we have a hard ass here!

You are right. More power to you if your prepared at all times for anything and everything.



You seem to have an unnerving preoccupation with male body parts....

I live in a remote location.... the great Canadian arboreal forest. This is one of the last great wilderness areas. You will be prepared or the cost can be great... "ultimate"   one might opine.

I have also been involved in the fine art of survival for 'several' decades. There is no "hard ass" about it.... We can bow to the whims of nature or we can suffer at the hands of nature.

How can one explain it? Expect the unexpected? Too open ended.... Expect cold in December and warm in July? Nahhh, can't be so....

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I was just kidding around with you; however its at times of crisis or uncertainty that the real hard ass shines. Being prepared is a very self gratifying feeling, especially if your life depends on it.

As far as the body parts are concerned, its a figure of speech.



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Dude, the diamond mine isn't a Paul Bunyan tale.

It's the closest place to HELL you'll ever be. I been there. Made it back alive.

Yeah, they plug their shit in, or it freezes. Also, proper weight oils help, too.

I have a powerstroke truck. It will start at -30, not plugged in, with 2 750CCA batteries.

Not overly proud of it, but it happened.

I'll post pictures up if I get around to it.

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I dont know how long you have had your truck, and I have used smaller CCA batteries in other applications, but are you to tell us all that you NEVER had problems starting your truck? EVER?

Dont get me wrong, cars come in every day that are DOA. But every once in a great while the mechanic WILL have some part fail on themself personally. When it happend to me, I was wishing I had some 1000 CCA batteries.

Im not saying rush out and turn in your 750's just shoot for the stars when it comes time to replace it.

Now days I just have a good friend of mine rebuild them. They really pack a punch after that.



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Somehows that got posted twice.

I have been told by some battery company reps that the number of plates stacked in the case of a 1000cca battery is susbstantially higher than that of an 850cca battery, and shorting is more common especially in an environment when vibration is always present.

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Ill buy that.

Not much bumps here in the city though, of course this is Michigan and the winter sport here is dodging potholes. The saying around here is "Ossifer I aint been drinking, Im dodging potholes!"

I see a lot of trucks that come in without the battery hold down installed. I hate when I see that because without it there is serious risk of cell walls falling over and shorting out. I try to keep mine in there, but I have had some that were a real MoFo. Right now I am guilty of not having mine in, but thats because I loaned out my batteries more than once doing service calls.

Two 850's aint bad. Two 1000's is reeeaalll niiiceeee.

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" Dude, the diamond mine isn't a Paul Bunyan tale.

It's the closest place to HELL you'll ever be. I been there. Made it back alive. "




If I remember correctly wasn't there a casualty from that experience...I thought your Tool box got Fucked up.


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kYeah...and Manitoulin Transport isn't responsible for it! Yahoo!

Was SIGNED CLEAR AND OKAY ON THE RECEIVING END BY SHIPPER/RECEIVER.

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$12k down the toilet.....

-- Edited by Big Angry Hillbilly at 11:17, 2009-02-28

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 because I loaned out my batteries more than once doing service calls.

Two 850's aint bad. Two 1000's is reeeaalll niiiceeee.



Loaned out your batteries? What an odd way to do things.... A decent set of jumper cables is a good thing to pack in a service truck.... I equipped our yard truck with a genset, a battery charger and a Herman Nelson with a fabricated duct to lay under the oil pan of a truck.

I will admit that this winter has been amazingly mild.... only a few days where the mercury dipped into the nether regions of 30 below... However, we have found that well maintained trucks will start below -30 without being plugged in and with only wimpy little 850 CCA batteries installed....

'Cold' weather ain't no big thing... Matter of fact, it is a relative thing.... and it will be what we make of it.

Interesting sidebar.... The town where I live is about the same lattitude as Ketchikan, Alaska.... We do not have the temporizing effect of the ocean. Normally, we will see about a week of -40 temps and, on occasion we will get into the -50s (and THAT is gettin' chilly). I am forever amused when someone in warmer climes pretends to know "cold"....

Flip side of the coin.... when it comes to "warm", I KNOW where I sit.... At +75, I am dying..... At +85, I am a puddle on the pavement.... I wont pretend to know heat... But at -20, I drive around with my window down....

 



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Man that really sucks about the tool box Angry! At first I thought maybe it was just a little one or something... $12K though, that sounds like a battleship.

Pogo over here is trying to tell me he is a full blooded eskemo, and also trying to tell me his truck starts on -30 degree days. Im sure he is speaking in C rather than F.

Sometimes when you get a battery that a cell wall has fallen over, or is just really dead, a boost wont help. Thats when a switching of the battery is in order.

Where I am at Pogo, there is more than one car coming down the street every hour. There is more than 1 person living on a block, and we still see -20 thru -30 degree days in the deep winter months. We can also see +100 degree days during the summer. Its the best/worst of both worlds.



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Hey Rex you may want to check out Slave Lake Alberta before you put your foot in your mouth AGAIN.

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Yah, Pogo is about 7 hours or so south of where I was in the Northwest Territories.

So, Santa is still a local call.

Cold.

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I am sure santa would agree... Pogo is a Ho-Ho-Ho!

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Whatever you want to believe.... The idea is to have happy customers that pay their bills..... not to have our efforts rewarded with chickens, vegetables and used trucks.

This trade has a bad kharma - the public, in general,  perceives us as thieves, idiots and charlatans... It is through the efforts of unwitting, ignorant or unscrupulous individuals that these impressions are reinforced.

For some, the solution is to become aware of either their limitations, for others it is to become familiar with those systems or vehicles they wish to repair... for some, there is no hope.

The important thing is to exude an air of professionalism while we doing our business...

In the real world, we pay someone to impart their knowledge on us - billing a customer hours upon hours for the privilege of learning? Unconcionable....

I think it amusing that YOU find ME to be the "bad guy"...



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Wasnt it Henry Ford whom said "If I could own rights to all of the parts, I would give the cars away free!"?

Well it seems old Hennerys ideals have not fallen far from the tree. In fact a lot of engineered obsoletion has gone into the design of Ford Motor Company products. Why if it were not for Fords my tools would rust. Further proof of this can be confirmed by Fords ability to keep itself afloat without bail out money. Even though people are not buying as many new cars, they are fixing their old ones. Much effort went into the design of Ford cars to ensure they last just long enough, and in many cases they even fall short. Thats a good thing for you dealer techs. Lots of efforts are made to ensure model lines are changed enough between years to limit the compatibility with similar platforms.

You seem to think I am the only person out there trying to make a living. Without any consideration for myself or the forum you come in here like some all knowing god when in reality your just a few years from obsoletion yourself. How do you like the taste of them apples Pogo?

Meanwhile I will remain to keep my mind open to new ideas, approaching opportunity with a smile, and working hard for the people that work hard for me, the customer. I am having a hard time figuring out just where YOU stand. To me it just sounds like youre a jealous, spoiled dealership brat.

You are not in charge here, your help has not been directly requested, so you can shove all your high and mighty $hit right up your a$$! People have been working on cars BEFORE YOU and they will keep doing so AFTER YOU.

To say you "FIX" cars, without "WORKING" on them just shows your arrogance, meanwhile in your post above you try to make claims that others should pack it in. The whole do as I say and not as I do thing dont work too well around here. I can understand that the term "WORK" is a hard one for you, so Ill let you slide on that.

REALITY CHECK POGO!


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I think you are attributing a quote to me that wasn't made by me... not that it matters because I do agree with it.... and you misunderstand it. We do fix these trucks.... and we do it day in and day out. And they are difficult trucks to work on..... The operating system is complex.... very complex. And we do "work" on them.... but we can fix them without resorting to the "parts cannon".

And that is why, BEFORE we start throwing parts at them, we learn about the systems we are working on. What I say quite regularly is that if you don't know how it works, how are you going to fix it.

I am not "high and mighty".... I am not "full of myself"... However, I am smart enough to see that I need to have some basic knowledge in order to work wisely... Simply owning a box of tools and a pair of coveralls with "POGO" over one tit and "YOUR FAVE FORD DEALER" over the other does not make me an expert.

You keep mentioning Mercedes in many of your posts.... I don't.... Why? Because I don't work on Mercedes... I doubt that I have scan tools for Mercedes.... I KNOW I don't have manuals for Mercedes... I don't have easy access for Mercedes training... In the last 10 years, only one Mercedes has darkened my doorstep.... I said NO, THANK YOU... I will not pretend that I can fix those things that I cannot....

I spent almost 20years as a self employed independant. There is no way in hell that an independant can be "everyman".... It costs too fucking much.... you can get so far on good looks and chutzpah.... but when push comes to shove, the guy that pays the invoice would like to see results...

You feel that I think myself superior because I know that I can't fix a car without learning about it....

You don't need a manual... but I insist on having one..... Go figure.

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You assume that I dont have manual, when infact I have the some of the BEST sources of information out there.

You also seem to have a low opinion of yourself. You are always trying to defend the fact that your not a "Bad" guy, when I have never said anything to imply you were.

Now lets talk about that Mercedes. I think I mentioned it twice in the Ford forum here. Once when the truck got sunk in the mud and the second time was when my 4X4 low would not release. I think both times it was quite clear WHY it was mentioned.

I understand you are shaky with the whole theory of an internal cumbustion engine. You choose to stay in the shallow end of the pool working only with Fords thats fine by me. Just dont come into such a deep area without your water wings.



You better think twice about your statements. Working on ONLY one vehicle may help you become faster in fixing the next one with the same problem, however its only time before new ways of doing an old thing will detour you from working on cars/trucks.

The dealers solution to a problem is usually a 20K-30K bill. Broom it. Buy a new one.
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You didn't use a manual before you got your super duty... (You don't actually think that your trans is a 4R100, do you?) - and THAT is painfully obvious.

You didn't use a manual when you were stuck in 4LO. Apparently, one of the best sources of information in your mind was powerstroke.org or whatever landed you in the shit your in now....

Todays vehicles are far too complex to even consider trying to be "everyman". Beyond the need for excellent documentation, there are those little "tricks" that one learns to overcome design features and flaws.

I am not criticizing independants.. but I don't see myself moving away from a dealership environment very soon.

As for my opinion of myself and my abilities... you have "humble" confused with "low esteem". You do not practice humility - and it constantly returns to nag you.

My grasp of intenal combustion is pretty good, for the most part. Steam engines, not so much... liquid piston engines and gas turbines more than a passing interest... but the Ottocycle engine - I do quite well. oh, you don't mean that the reciprocating, Ottocycle engine is the only internal combustion engine you know of, do you?

Anyway... you keep losing sight of a few salient points... I have never spent so much money on a customers truck to be able to keep it. You fell so hard for Powerstrokers story - I was beginning to wonder if you would have stolen your own hubcaps and handed them to him...

At the top of this page, you have an impressive array of logos... copyrighted logos...  Bugatti... I assume you are a factory trained Veyron tech? Or are you a lot like the Suzuki driver that has a drawer full of Harley T-shirts?

You live in a world of make believe.... You are a mechanic and you "could" work on Lamborghini... Bugatti... Ferrari, Rolls and all that other exotica - if they only gave you the chance.... The rest of us? We have feet of clay. We prefer to know what we are doing. We aren't guys trying to make a buck.... we are professionals tasked with assisting our customers in making wise repair decisions and performing those repairs.

Our premier tool is knowledge... your's, OTOH, is a shot gun

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I know your type.

The guy who could not hack it on his own.

Your access to information pertaining to ONE manufacture does not impress me.

I have owned/serviced all but 5 of the manufatures above, thank you very much. And I would not cower like you should one ever need repairs.

By your own admission only ONE person has ever entrusted you with a Mercedes, and even then you had to turn it away. That does not sound like a mechanic to me, sounds more like a pussy.

I can fix a Ford every bit as good as you, and maybe even better. Just because Ford cant make componets that last, dont mean your cocky ass can come in here and rip on me for replacing them. Trying to say that because Ford's parts failed, I am the bad guy for replacing them. You are such a punk.

Go do some more warranty work already.



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My gosh, we are a tad testy... If it pleases you, I'll bring up the subject of our 500 inch RB stroker... Not a manual in the world to cover that puppy....

You are missing the point.... If you went to a doctor with any particular complaint, you would hope that if he needed to say "I am not familiar with that system" - he would say it.

Our customers deserve the same... Forgive me if I have left a wrong impression. I have, in the past, worked on Bizzarinni Estrada, Borgward Isabella, Triumph, Lotus, BMC, VW, Porsche, Hienkel, Bond, NSU... the list goes on and on... Most of it without manuals... most of it many years ago when systems were ever so simple...

Back then, there were very few mistakes to make. Today... well - look at your truck. There are mistakes to be made at every step - expensive mistakes. I am wise enough to know this.... In this day and age... when a techs mistakes can cost a customer his ride, we should be concious of this fact.

You repeatedly justify ignorance... You call yourself brave for venturing into systems you don't know.... I gave that kind of stuff up 20 years ago - back when I decided that happy customers can make me rich... instead of pissed off customers giving me old, clapped out trucks.

I've been doing this stuff for 40 years.... and, young fella, one thing I have learned to spot is bullshit.

In this day and age, when the number at the bottom of a work order can so easily exceed two or three thousand dollars (or even twelve thousand dollars), our customers deserve to have knowledgable people working on their vehicles... To have someone jump in with a cavalier "I can fix anything on the road" attitude is foolhardy. That you are parading around in that big old truck is testament to what I am trying to tell you... But your youth and inexperience are clouding your vision. Long before you gain the experience you need, you will have instilled a deep feeling of mistrust in those you deal with - both as customers and as employees...

God help you.....

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I think you are smart enough to know that the repairs I did were all needed. Furthermore if you compare the parts/labor cost you will also find that the cost were much less than a dealer would have charged.

Lets see how good you really are pogo...

What does your dealer typiclly charge for a complete set of injectors installed?

What does your dealership charge for an oil change?

What would your dealer charge to replace ICPR and IPS parts and labor?

What would your dealer charge for batteries and starter parts and labor?

What would your dealership charge to flush fuel system, replace fuel pump?

Lets just keep the vehicle the same 03 PSTD 6.0
Lets see what kind of numbers you pull. Lets also keep in mind there is no overlap due to the fact the customer wants to keep driving the vehicle, so each of these gets done at seperate times and not all at once.

After you realize we have already creasted the $12K mark, dont forget to add in the Turbo-Up tube, Converter, Storage, Paperwork fee's, down time, gray hairs, and also factor in that the bottom dropped out on the market for these trucks.

Parading around in this big ole truck? Please..... I could be sporting around in a Z06 for what I got screwed on!

Pogo Ill stick muh dick in your ear and fuck what ya heard!

Dont push me old timer!



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I think you are smart enough to know that the repairs I did were all needed. Furthermore if you compare the parts/labor cost you will also find that the cost were much less than a dealer would have charged.

Lets see how good you really are pogo...

What does your dealer typiclly charge for a complete set of injectors installed?

Why would we replace a complete set of injectors? What diagnostic process have we used to arrive at this repair?

What does your dealership charge for an oil change?

On a diesel? A hundred and some odd bucks... this would be a schedule 1 maintenance. We use only factory approved parts and fluids. Our people are familiar with the truck and have factory support available.

What would your dealer charge to replace ICPR and IPS parts and labor?

What the fuck are these and how did we arrive at them needing replacement? Changing parts is easy - knowing what parts to change takes a certain amount of skill. Additionally... if you are talking ICP sensor, are we talking early build or late build" Is it leaking oil? What is an IPS?

What would your dealer charge for batteries and starter parts and labor?

I am a tech (shop foreman, actually) - we prepare estimates for services and repairs required. After that, the service advisors and parts department are involved. Looking at comparable estimates and invoices, we charge real close to the same. A $500 job is a $500 job. Independant shops have pretty much the same overhead as dealerships - electricity, rent/mortgage, insurance, yur house payment and groceries... Some shops are greedy and will steel your truck.

What would your dealership charge to flush fuel system, replace fuel pump?

What kind/year of truck? If there was a real concern with fuel quality, I'd be worried more about the injectors..... but you already replaced those back at step one.

Lets just keep the vehicle the same 03 PSTD 6.0
Lets see what kind of numbers you pull. Lets also keep in mind there is no overlap due to the fact the customer wants to keep driving the vehicle, so each of these gets done at seperate times and not all at once.

After you realize we have already creasted the $12K mark, dont forget to add in the Turbo-Up tube, Converter, Storage, Paperwork fee's, down time, gray hairs, and also factor in that the bottom dropped out on the market for these trucks.

Parading around in this big ole truck? Please..... I could be sporting around in a Z06 for what I got screwed on!

Pogo Ill stick muh dick in your ear and fuck what ya heard!

Dont push me old timer!


You would first have to prove to me what needed changing and why... It is one thing to perform a logical diagnostic process.... It is quite another thing to load up the old parts cannon and let fly with a truck load of parts....

As a wiener, you could teach Ralph stuff.... 

What is truly amusing is that you not only screwed your customer - but you screwed yourself as well.



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$500 job is a $500 job?

What planet are you from buddy? My diagnostic skills on this vehicle were SPOT on.

You have avoided my direct questions too many times tonight. From the actual amount of repair cost for the services/parts listed, to your blatent disregard for the application as mentioned.

What do you think of when you hear things like this Pogo?

SEALED WHEEL BEARING (HUB ASSY)
NON-SERVICABLE SUSPENSION PARTS
TRANSMISSIONS WITHOUT CONVENTIONAL DIPSTICKS
USING REGULAR STEEL ON BRAKE AND FUEL LINES

All the things listed above are VERY likley to be put on a Ford product to ENSURE it will need replacement over time. Dont come in here questioning my ability to call an entire company on their lack of standards. Where I come from design, longivity, and building things to last MEAN something.

If it makes you sick, then tell Ford to quit building shit. Oh wait, they dont build shit, thats why the NEW 6.4 liter is the "Pride" of the fleet. Shit.. Spare me...

GM is the only one who got it right. With the 350 engine which for the most part did not change from the 1960's on thru till 2002. They stuck with a platform and it made life easy for everyone. If the 350 were still available today, Fords might not have gotten that truck award.

Once again Pogo, when I need your help, Ill ask for it. But thanks bud.



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Pride of the fleet? Yeah.

With the truck weighing in at 7500lbs, plus a 2000lb trailer, with a 5000lb car on it, and then an additional 1500 lbs of shit in the box of the truck, another 5-600 in the car, and probably 500 or so in the cab, plus a 275lb hillbilly, a 90lb dog, it drove with just as much if not more power than it does unloaded. And still got 15mpg, at 70-75mph the whole way back.

Pride of the fleet indeed.

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Are you saying a 6.0 wont do the same with the same load?

Im sure its new, and so fresh and so clean, and hell, nothing like getting paid to do warranty work on your own truck!

I plan to do some more road driving this summer with gas prices back down, and my new place costing alot less. As much as I enjoy driving my Mercedes, it appears that my truck has more room for camping trips and such. Heck we even got a new cat and dog, so you know that aint going to fly in the car.

Good thing about this truck is that fact I could damn near haul my car too! If it werent for things like Jet Ski's and boats! LOL

Yes they are nice trucks. As much as I complain about Ford, there is still nothing that rides like a Ford.



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My gosh, we are a tad testy... If it pleases you, I'll bring up the subject of our 500 inch RB stroker... Not a manual in the world to cover that puppy....


You never did get done telling us about that 500 inch RB stroker.

Does it even exist? Is it an alien aircraft? Was it last seen at Rosewell?

You cant just leave us hanging with "Not a manual in the world to cover that puppy"

 



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I have seen said Dodge motor.

I'm not a Dodge guy, and I still think it's a nice piece.

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LOL... I have just found out the 500 RB Stroker is a rather old engine.

If you cant figure out how to fix one without a dealer manual, perhaps you should seek another profession! Are you confused on how to install that old school fuel pump Pogo?



Even the newer one dont look that bad!



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