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Pelosi buys $16K worth of flowers


Pelosi buys $16K worth of flowers

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has spent $16,000 on flowers since taking office, one reason why she spent 63 percent more in her high-profile inaugural year than her low-key predecessor did last year.

Pelosi (D-Calif.) spent a little more than $3 million in the first nine months of 2007, records show, compared to the $1.8 million Rep. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) spent during the same period in 2006.

Republicans are spending more as well. House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) has increased spending 23 percent above what Pelosi spent when she held the same job. That would be 16 percent if some of Hasterts closing-out costs were deducted.


The spending patterns indicate Pelosi is seeking to restore the Speakers role as a counterweight to the president and reclaim some of the responsibilities Hastert had ceded to his aggressive majority leader, Tom DeLay (R-Texas). Because of their different roles, Pelosi aides say it is unfair to simply compare Pelosis spending to Hasterts.


When Speaker Pelosi took the gavel, it was an historic moment. In the days since, the Speaker has hosted leaders from across the country and around the world opening the Peoples House to the people and discussing the work of the 110th Congress, Pelosi spokesman Nadeam Elshami said in response to e-mailed questions. There are major new costs associated with setting up the new office of the new Speaker of the House.


Republicans say Pelosis office spending undercuts her message that Democrats are restoring fiscal responsibility to the halls of Congress.


They could have saved the taxpayer $16,000 by sending out an intern to pick flowers from the Capitol lawn, but I guess that would have detracted from the $4 million worth of pork they planted as part of the greening project, said Brian Kennedy, spokesman for Boehner.


Boehner will be refunding more than $1 million to the treasury from the money he was allocated, Kennedy said.


Most of the $16,058 that Pelosi charged taxpayers for flowers, Elshami said, was for the visits of foreign dignitaries, such as Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and Jordans King Abdullah.


Many of the same dignitaries and international leaders hosted by the White House are also hosted by Speaker Pelosi, Elshami said. This expense is associated largely with these occasions and other Congress-wide, bipartisan events


While Hastert didnt appear to spend any money on flowers last year, bouquets are not new to Pelosis office. She spent about $5,000 on flowers last year when she was minority leader.


Attempts to find out how much the White House spends on flowers were unsuccessful.


The increase from Hastert to Pelosi was driven largely by a surge in travel and a heavily fortified payroll.


Pelosi has more people working for her. Hastert employed 35 people during the third quarter of last year. Pelosi, by contrast, had 51 people on her payroll during the same time period.


As the first Democratic Speaker in 12 years, there was a responsibility to the American people and the Democratic Caucus to hit the ground running and to pass the New Direction agenda, Elshami said. To achieve this goal, more resources were needed, including the hiring of additional staff in policy and research areas, for example.


Another factor in the disparity is travel. Hastert didnt bill much official travel last year, spending only about $1,700, while Pelosi racked up many times that at nearly $60,000 a figure that does not include her congressional delegation journeys to Europe and the Middle East. It does, however, include many visits to congressional districts.


As the first woman Speaker of the House and first Democratic Speaker in 12 years, there continues to be a demand for her to travel across the country to appear in congressional districts with members, to meet with local press and editorial boards, and to meet with representatives of the private sector, Elshami said.


Pelosi also has use of a legislative floor activity account, while Boehner controls extra money for minority employees, which include his employees and those of other Republican leaders.

If those accounts are factored in, Pelosis spending increased 52 percent, and Boehners spending increased 12 percent.


The spending information is contained in thick books issued quarterly called the Statement of Disbursements of the House. Some call them brown books for their beige covers (Senate books are green). Others call them bitch books, because congressional staffers look up their counterparts salaries, then complain to their bosses if theyre paid less.


The books are often used to check spending of members representational allowance, which in 2007 ranged from $1,262,065 to $1,600,539. Each member of leadership has an MRA account for his or her district office, and a separate account to cover the leadership office.

Under a continuing resolution passed in February, House members got $555 million for their MRAs, and leaders were allocated $24 million.


Other expenses in Pelosis office include:


A $10,000 contract to former Clinton White House speechwriter Heather Hurlburt to write the speech Pelosi delivered to the Israeli Knesset.


Nearly $20,000 to Washington attorney Richard Meltzer to help with Pelosis transition. Just like a presidential transition, Richard Meltzer was hired to oversee the historic changeover of Congress, Elshami said.


More than $2,400 to hire a makeup artist for the week of her swearing in. Pelosi later reimbursed the entire cost from her personal funds.


House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) has spent 1 percent more than Boehner spent when he was majority leader. Boehner was elected majority leader in early February 2006. The office is shrinking from the days of DeLay, who had 29 staffers in 2004. Hoyer had 23 employees in September.


As minority leader, Boehner has carried $127,000 to cover the costs of transitioning from Hasterts tenure and archiving Hasterts materials. Beyond that, he has spent more from his minority leader accounts than Pelosi did on services and some salaries.


Mr. Boehner handles the office books the same way hed like to see the federal budget administered, which is why he returned to the Treasury roughly $1 million from FY06 and is on track to best that number for FY07, Kennedy said. Any modest increase in expenditures this year over last reflects the additional responsibilities he assumed as the highest-ranking Republican in the House.


The biggest swings were in some of the lower-profile offices.


House Minority Conference Chairman Adam Putnams (R-Fla.) office spent 58 percent more than Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) when he was the minority caucus chairman.


A spokesman for Putnam said he absorbed many departure costs for the outgoing conference chairwoman, Rep. Deborah Pryce (R-Ohio). For example, many departure bonuses were paid to Pryces employees this year, counting toward Putnams total. The disbursement books show Putnam has spent about $200,000 less than Pryce did last year.


The biggest percentage decrease was for the Democratic Steering and Policy Committee, run by Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.). The committee spent 28 percent less this year.


Putnams office said it is fairer to compare the spending of the whole Republican conference, steering and policy operations to the Democratic caucus, steering and policy operations.

Money is distributed evenly between the Republicans and Democrats for those functions, and the party leaders decide how to allocate them.


Under that calculation, Republicans spent 18 percent less than they did last year while Democrats spending rose 4 percent over last year. Democrats, however, say that is not a legitimate comparison.

TheHill.com - Pelosi buys $16K worth of flowers

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Perhaps she has a flower Donkey too?



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Wonder how her flower donkey is looking now days? lol

 



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Well, she owns a multi-million dollar vineyard in California, so I would imagine her flower donkey is always blingin.

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Well, she owns a multi-million dollar vineyard in California, so I would imagine her flower donkey is always blingin.


 

Well that is great! So she can afford to pay for her own damn travel cost!



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Well that is great! So she can afford to pay for her own damn travel cost!




 

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Oh he does PowerStroker!

You see what it says on the side of that airplane PowerStroker?

Show us Pelosi's personal plane!



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He's not presently using that plane is he though? Not when he can get a bigger one funded by taxpayers.


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If you were POTUS which would you use? Which of the presidents did NOT use AF1?

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I'd use AF1 too, but I wouldn't whine about the leader of a co-equal branch of government using military planes too, especially if they happen to be 2nd in the line of succession to the presidency.

Awful lot of whining about travel costs these days, not much whining about the tax code being written to subsidize the lifestyles of billionaires, which by the way, absolutely dwarfs the chump change the taxpayers pay for legitimate Congressional travel. Y'all need to latch on to the real issues instead of the fluff.

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I don't believe it had anything to do with the cost or use of at all. Has to do with keeping her here and getting a solution and ending the shutdown. She tried to leave again today, commercial. POTUS shut that down too.

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What more do you want her to do, her house already passed the funding bill. Your state's senator hasn't brought it up for a vote in the Senate yet though.

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What more do you want her to do, her house already passed the funding bill. Your state's senator hasn't brought it up for a vote in the Senate yet though.


 

Just let me ask you one thing, who is the POTUS, PowerStroker?



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Trump is the President, not a king.

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What more do you want her to do, her house already passed the funding bill. Your state's senator hasn't brought it up for a vote in the Senate yet though.


 It's not about the funding bill.



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Trump is the President, not a king.


 

I agree, on both accounts, and he is not a King... Don't think I ever seen him strutting around with a crown or anything to suggest he think's that he is a king.

Pelosi may be 2nd in line, but she is not the President! The President has asked her for less than 1% of the budget to extend the wall... It is not a big deal, and he is the President.

This really is ridiculous, and for her to attempt to leave the country twice now, regardless the reason, is wrong! 

Trump sat Pelosi and Schumer down before this and told them exactly what he was looking for. I don't see how as President, he could have been any more upfront.



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And there were a LOT of times, PowerStroker, that when Obama was President - he did things that I didn't care for... But he was the President, as much as it sucked. 



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Trump is the President, not a king.


 

I agree, on both accounts, and he is not a King... Don't think I ever seen him strutting around with a crown or anything to suggest he think's that he is a king.

Pelosi may be 2nd in line, but she is not the President! The President has asked her for less than 1% of the budget to extend the wall... It is not a big deal, and he is the President.

This really is ridiculous, and for her to attempt to leave the country twice now, regardless the reason, is wrong! 

Trump sat Pelosi and Schumer down before this and told them exactly what he was looking for. I don't see how as President, he could have been any more upfront.


 Good point Man!!! POTUS likes McD's. Imagine if he liked Burger Queen? If they gave him a crown, MSM would turn it into "Trump wants to be king!!!!!"



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He had McDonalds, Burger King, Wendys and Pizza at the White House.



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That's cool! Not bi-foodisan, eats them all.

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Well not exactly... They didn't have any luck getting Taco Bell to pay for it... LOL, therefore - No Taco Bell!

Guess they didn't want the toilets getting filled up.



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I don't eat any of those anyway. Pizza but homebrewed

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$14k on flowers...

$2 million on air travel with $101,000 in booze and food alone (just on the flight mind you).

It is clear that Pelosi can spend tax payer money! 

But she did usher in healthcare / obamacare! Guess you need $14k in flowers and $101k in booze to stifle the stench of "To see what is in this bill we must pass this bill"... That's my guess anyway...



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Any data on John Boehner or Paul Ryan's travel expenses for comparison?

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IIRC Boehner and Ryan are both retired... Maybe Nancy needs to as well? I think it's clear the longer these politicians hold their positions over the decades, the more embolden they become to spend such money... Unless your name is AOC, then of course you should be able to blow mad tax payer cash on travel, food, lodging, cosmetics and clothes... We need to kick her ass to the curb ASAP.



-- Edited by SELLC on Sunday 15th of December 2019 05:13:58 PM

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I would imagine the cost to pack AF1 with Secret Service personnel and fly them all to Mar a Lago every weekend would dwarf anything we have been talking about.

 

But, if you'd rather focus on nickle and dime stuff, here's one:

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-duncan-hunter-spending-20180822-story.html



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I'd suggest Trump load up AF1 and the rest of the military planes and rent out the Taj Mahal but something eerily uncomfortable about that, on both accounts. 

Let's see, Trump went belly up on his Taj Mahal to the tune of $1.2 billion dollars, BUT in doing so built a grand building and hotel and revitalized an otherwise vacant area spanning over a DECADE before NJ locked him out... Many people got paid, lots of revenue flowing and the buildings are still there to this day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Entertainment_Resorts

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-trump-bankrupted-the-taj-mahal-2017-5

Then we have Obama and his trip to the Taj Mahal with his family and friends in tow, costing an alleged $200 MILLION per day at almost a week!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_presidential_trips_made_by_Barack_Obama

https://autotrend.activeboard.com/t39201266/obamas-vacation-costing-tax-payers-200-million-per-day/

 

So you tell me PowerStroker! Who spent the money better, and what country benefited most? Seems Obama opted for the real thing and left the taxpayers on the hook with a bill without anything to show for it. Blew it in a week! No wonder he outspent every President before him combined! Yet you want to lecture us about the current POTUS's national travels here inside the USA!? GIVE ME A BREAK!



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Your figures for Obama's vacation costs have never been confirmed by any credible source.

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16k for flowers? What the hell!

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I wonder what $16k worth of flowers looks like? I wonder if they took a photo!?

I'd imagine $16k worth of flowers could look like a lot of things if better spent... Maybe something like this,



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Don't forget I got the top locker too, and I'm still in it less than $16k (for the box itself anyway).

Thanks for agreeing it was money well spent, many people who aren't in our field just wouldn't understand.

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Oh that's right! You did get the top too!

It's for sure the "aircraft carrier" of tool boxes, the best of the best with honors - sir! When your tools are exposed to other people in a shop environment a good locking tool box is the only safe spot you got when you walk out that door at quitting time. Very important to have a good locking box or shit WILL turn up missing, or at minimum every fuck-stick in the shop will help themselves to your tools whenever you're not around. Most people don't understand there is easy another $20-$30k in tools inside them $16k aircraft carriers... but hey... 

For just a little under $16k you can get one of these too,

And you would still have a nice chunk left over to take a months long vacation across the country in it!

Guess that just puts things into perspective, the things the little people like us work hard for and are proud of are nothing but a days flower decor for these big spenders. 

 



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Guess that just puts things into perspective, the things the little people like us work hard for and are proud of are nothing but a days flower decor for these big spenders. 

 


 

Yes.

And they'll never understand the reward for getting-stuff-done.



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It's been brutal busy over here Rastus! This is actually the first time I have been able to sit down and respond to post in the MBTP section since Christmas Eve!



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