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Should an ex President be charged for setting up a shadow government once out of office? [3 vote(s)]

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Obama trying to set up a shadow government in DC!


Why doesn't Obama take his a$$ back to Chicago? Can't he tell he's not welcome in DC anymore?

And what kind of charges should be levied upon an ex President who tried to usurp power and create a "shadow government" after being ejected from Washington?

What is even more pathetic are the little staged public events he shows up at where Soros employees are paid to scream and yell like he is some kind of rock star... Obviously Obama isn't trying any of this BS in Red states...



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LOL !!!

A1. He doesn't like Chicago, & is apparently concerned with his daughters finishing high-school with no house-moves until completed.

A2. There are likely just as many supporters as knockers in all of the US-of-A, so it matters little where he should go, the same shit will be flung.

A3. The Democrats by default at this point in time, are the acting "shadow government". Believe it or not, ex-presidents have been & are often called upon to help negotiate international resolution in both local, & abroad concerns, that he would have had a major part in handling. Just because his time ran out, does not mean he could finish every task on an uncontrollable agenda. Many people see Mr.Trump as an idiot, & would rather deal with the ex-president.

A4. Just kike you ranting, raving & cheering Mr.Trump, there are people doing the same for Mr. Obama.

A5. No doubt Mr.Trump will steer clear of any places he's not welcome too.

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He doesn't like Chicago!? Really? Then why did we spend all that money to send his ignorant ass to Copenhagen to lobby for the Olympics? Why did he come to Detroit and brag on his Chicago home team? Oh that's right... Obama was just an empty suit 1st term Senator from Illinois before all this... Seems more like he got out of the ghetto and doesn't want to go back!

Illegal immigrants just love Obama... Everyone else got sick of his BS right about the middle of his 2nd term. Most of us couldn't stand him from day one.

I'm pretty confident that President Trump won't be seeking any help from Obama unless it's to find out the extent of a mess that was caused by Obama himself. You can take that to the bank! It doesn't matter much what other people, and by other people I mean foreigners living in other countries, think about Trump! America LOVES Trump and the more everyone else hates him, the more we love him! Any foreign dignitary that thinks they can pick and choose who they deal with is soon going to learn the hard way that such is not reality.

Just kike? lol... That was pretty funny.. I'd imagine most of the people cheering Obama in public are doing so because they are so happy he is out of office!

I don't think Trump is very interested in leaving the USA, and that is a good sign! Obama on the other hand LOVED to get out of the USA any chance he could get, why? Because it's always been obvious that Obama and his wife both hate America. Moochelle even said so herself, and Obama showed us all with his actions and the $10+ Trillion dollar debt he left behind, not including that train wreck healthcare law.

 



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I don't quite understand your Obama fetish Rex. Has he wronged you at some point?

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Yes... It's been 8 years of hell..

You don't have to go thru 8 years of hell PowerStroker, because Trump is Pro-American and wants you to succeed! Even though you hate him!

Obama on the other hand, put other nations before America and created what I consider the biggest divide in this nation that I have ever seen in my lifetime!



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I went through 8 years of Bush hell, and I was able to put it behind me once my guy was elected.

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Fair enough... But did Bush do what Obama is trying to do? 

Did Bush get into the spotlight and try to set up a shadow government or did he back off and let Obama do his thing?



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Exactly what shadow government is Obama setting up? Do you have an article from a mainstream source?

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Sure... MSNBC good, er.... I mean liberal enough for you?

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/gop-congressman-sees-shadow-government-conspiracy-involving-obama



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And lets not limit ourselves to that crap a$$ MSNBC news desk or Rachel Mad-Cow... Let's "Really" look at the facts...

(1) Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch (D) calls for more marching, blood in the streets and death to protest Trump... And lets not forget her tarmac meeting with Bill Clinton while his wife was under investigation.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2017/03/05/loretta-lynch-we-need-more-marching-blood-death-streets

(2) Former Attorney General Eric Holder, the gun running chimp who got countless agents and people killed and started crying on the podium when his stupid a$$ had to resign to avoid prosecution himself is now headed to California to "Fight Trump" and Americans by defending sanctuary cities.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/04/holder-hired-to-help-california-fight-trump-administration.html

(3) Former Attorney General Sally Yates FIRED by Trump for telling staff not to defend the President

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/30/acting-ag-tells-justice-department-staff-not-to-defend-trumps-refugee-order.html

(4) The 46 US Justice Lawyers fired by Sessions going to work for Obama trying to claim Russians interfered with election

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/us/politics/us-attorney-justice-department-trump.html

(5) Obama has breakfast with Warren Buffet - my speculation would be that he is looking for money to carry out his Jihad against Trump

https://libertywritersnews.com/2017/03/backstabber-most-americans-didnt-see-what-obama-did-to-overthrow-trump-today/

(6) Snoop Dogg makes rap video of him shooting President Trump with a revolver. Could you imagine the outrage if a white rap artist did this sort of thing with regard to Obama!?

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/03/14/allen-west-snoop-dogg-should-be-investigated-trump-mock-assassination-music-video

(7) PowerStroker suggest taking away President Trumps 1st amendment right to free speech, all the while using his 1st amendment rights to post a fake mock up of President Trump as his avatar photo. Hypocrite much?

http://autotrend.activeboard.com/t63319671/take-his-twitter-away-please/

And the list goes on and on and on... If I were Trump I'd make sure these people are watched very closely and prosecuted should they make one wrong step that would undermine the President. Many of the people on this list should already be in court defending themselves from numerous charges anyway!



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With regard to number 3. Sally Yates was fired for not defending an illegal Muslim ban. She was vindicated when the Federal Court found it to be unconstitutional, and there were Republican's involved on that court. She wasn't a "yes man" and that's why she was fired, let's be clear.

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It's getting out of hand, the law is clear... Trump should order his state department to stop issuing any visas then it wont matter what the courts say.

 



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Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution gives Congress the power to regulate immigration. In 1952, Congress passed a law empowering the president to deny entry into the U.S. to any class of aliens considered to be detrimental to the interests of the United States.  In other words, a threat to America and in the interests of national security.     

 



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Trump may lose a few battles, but in the end he will win the war.



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Are you suggesting all brown Muslim people in the specific countries listed are a threat to the U.S. ?

Now if he wanted to ban entry from people who are card carrying members of AlQaeda, that seems to fit the spirit of the law passed by congress. But to paint all people from those countries with the same broad brush has previously been found to be unconstitutional, and may be found that way again. I guess we will see.

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I know some really good Muslim people PowerStroker! Trump even admits that he too knows many that are as patriotic as anyone else!

But that is not the point... This is America and regardless where you go there seems to be an issue with large groups of Muslims assimilating. Now there is nothing wrong with people and towns consisting of a majority of one race or religion, it's only human nature! But the problem is that often times these groups will migrate to a country and try to bring the laws and customs of their land here and impose them on others! Why? Why would they come here to make this land like the land they left? Why? I can't for the life of me understand that? If they want to live under Muslim law, why not stay where that is the law of the land?

Take for example Hamtramck, a Michigan town that has pretty much gone from primary a Polish population, to overwhelmingly Muslim population.  There is a big-to-do there about the Muslim call to prayer being played over the loudspeaker 5 times a day! Meanwhile many Churches have issues with noise complaints on a Sunday - just one day a week, let alone 7 days a week 5 times a day! This call to prayer is not spoken in an English language so naturally people who have no desire to learn the language, because they live in the USA, can't understand it! The Muslims in Hamtramck will cite their displeasure with "Church Bells", but clearly these are two different things! Not even the same ball park! There is no dialect in Church bells, and often times Church bells will just ring with the passing of an hour, with no vocal implications. So this argument is moot in many peoples opinions. Some might say that Muslims have the right to speak in their native language, and to this I agree with, to a degree! I would ask "Is this assimilating"? Or is this trying to change things? In my opinion, this not assimilating and people who speak the native language of this land, which by the way PowerStroker, is "English", are offended when visiting these areas because they can't understand what the heck anyone around them is saying. 

There are also traditions that run contrary to our laws, and in Hamtramck Michigan we have the nations very first Muslim run town, meaning the elected officials consist of a majority of Muslims. There has been attempts to change laws and even set up special courts to recognize Sharia Law! This is certainly not what anyone could consider to be "assimilating" and honestly it's absolutely unacceptable! If Muslims wish to live under Sharia Law, they need to move to countries that are governed by Sharia Law. Don't you agree PowerStroker? Or do you feel there should be separate laws for each ethnic persuasion? But in some ways I digress, because in some ways the Muslims are getting a bad rap, it's not much different in Mexican or China towns across the US either. So it's a complex and difficult thing this "assimilation", and it's not just exclusive of Muslims and people from the Middle East. That is the difference between America and other countries... Tolerance, but said tolerance is a thorny painful thing. Being someone who is native (born here) and has no desire to live outside of the USA, I guess you could say I am torn on the issue..

Here is an interesting video PowerStroker, if you ever have a little time you could learn a lot about what is happening in Hamtramck Michigan USA. 

It's a very objective video that is not a big production and in it you will learn about the many cultures in Hamtramck. Now it's true Dearborn is also another part of Michigan with a very high concentration of Muslim people living, but not quite like Hamtramck... You could almost say Dearborn is the upscale Muslim community while Hamtramck is at the lower income spectrum. Hamtramck is not very big, but it seems to be a testing ground for implementation of Muslim culture much like how the native Americans bend the rules on their lands. Honestly, Hamtramck is nothing like an Indian reservation where they actually do have their own laws and courts, but one could say it's going that way. How do you feel about that PowerStroker?

All that said, I am not saying that ALL Muslim people are bad, at least I never have. And the more they assimilate the easier it is to co-exist. Families who have lived here for generations and have children that have been born and grown up here are lightyears ahead of people "fresh of the boat" so to speak. But it does go to show that there is hope, but it's not easy.

I am glad you opened this door. I been wanting to discuss this for awhile now.

 



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PowerStroker wrote:

Are you suggesting all brown Muslim people in the specific countries listed are a threat to the U.S. ?

Now if he wanted to ban entry from people who are card carrying members of AlQaeda, that seems to fit the spirit of the law passed by congress. But to paint all people from those countries with the same broad brush has previously been found to be unconstitutional, and may be found that way again. I guess we will see.


 What the President sees as a security risk is what the President sees as a security risk... No one batted an eye when other Presidents did the same thing, but somehow it's different for Trump because he called out the Muslims who weren't what many consider to be patriotic Americans with America's best interest at heart.

If anything what you are really trying to do is use the Muslim culture as a political football, without any real interest in getting to understand Muslims or their traditions. For you it's just a talking point to paint Republicans in a bad way, even though there are groups of Muslims here that have absolutely no interest in America outside of doing us harm. 

Perhaps when you're in town sometime you can give me a call and we can roll thru Hamtramic in the Benz and get out and walk the streets for awhile. Don't worry, you're just as likely to get fucked up by a Muslim as you are a black person, or a disgruntled Polish person. We can stop in somewhere and grab a bite to eat. What do you say PowerStroker? I got a few crankshafts I need to have cut and my guy's business just happens to be located Hamtramic. At least he was a few years back.



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Sounds fun, If I ever find myself in the Detroit area I'll hit you up so you can meet @therealPowerstroker in person

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Sounds like a plan PowerStroker... Did I mention that I'm buying, if you can find a good place in Hamtramck that serves a good pulled pork sandwich? 

Anyway, I should also mention that it's awfully coincidental while Obama was vacationing in Hawaii, a Hawaiian Federal Judge put an ex-parte stay on President Trumps new travel hold! I should also point out that this Judge also went to Harvard with Obama, and graduated with him! Not only that, Obama appointed this liberal hack to the bench!

I think Trump needs to act, as Obama is clearly begging to be made an example of. If Trump fails to act, it's going to be his own fault each and every time Obama and co. runs off to Warren Buffet begging for airfare money to usurp the orders of the acting President. 

These ignorant liberals want to claim it's a Muslim ban, but really these countries have all been slapped with travel bans by both Republican and Democrat Presidents in the past... The only difference? Their name wasn't Donald J. Trump!

It's clear what is going on, and I can only hope that President Trump is simply giving Obama and co. enough room to hang themselves.



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