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https://www.collective-evolution.com/2019/03/05/university-professor-condemns-the-united-states-military-for-geo-engineering-owning-the-weather/



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Yo,

I have no doubt that population reduction is an agenda being carried-out. And no-doubt we-the-people are exposed every-day to some form of experimentation from the Government, & have been so for a long, long time.

Vote in the right people folks ! You have the power.

See how Mr.Trump cares for his citizens ?...

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They been seeding clouds for awhile now Rastus...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding

Looks like they have done it in Australia also!



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Yep,

They do a lot of things in Australia first...Low population means easy test results for minimum out-lay...But I believe a lot of these tests arrive from British needs, in conjunction with the US-of-A.

I do think that muck more experimenting is done in the US-of-A by your government. Your Military Industrial Complex is hardly full of nice people...

I have doubts about the successes of cloud seeding to control the weather, though no doubt they'll keep on trying.

It's the "other" experimental shyte they throw in our air that concerns me more to be honest...Microbiological insecticides, whether for crops or human vaccination / poisoning...

We must never forget that the Government are Public Servants. And as members of the public, we have a God-damned-right to know what the heck they're throwing down on us !!!

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Fair enough! 

Keep us posted!



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Rastus wrote:


& have been so for a long, long time.



See how Mr.Trump cares for his citizens ?...


 

How do you reconcile this?

 

In one post you first claim it has been going on a long, long time...

Then you blame it on Trump who just got in office 2 years ago...

 

Sounds more like you just want to place any and all blame on the current president due to your obvious BIAS...



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Anyone has "closely" read the linked article will see it HAS been going on for decades.

I read mainstream and alt news. If some of what I have seen is correct/true, the powers that were, are not engaged in weather control seeding etc. What else they doing, who knows, evil people that get a paycheck to kill us all slowly and they don't care.

Yes Nuffan,,,, Rastus and PS are biased but they are good mellow chaps. I pass on lots the bias because I remember how biased I was to Obama and still am to the Dems!

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https://www.collective-evolution.com/2019/03/05/university-professor-condemns-the-united-states-military-for-geo-engineering-owning-the-weather/

 

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IN BRIEF

  • The Facts:

    Dr. Michel Chossudovsky, who is the University of Ottawas Emeritus Professor of Economics and has worked directly with governments on various geopolitical issues has spoken out against weather modification and the long history of its use.

  • Reflect On:

    Why are we spraying things into our atmosphere without the people being aware of it? Why is it such a secretive issue? Should we not know about it? Why is this topic never brought up in the climate change discussion?

It wasnt long ago when weather manipulation was a conspiracy theory. Fast forward to today and we have a recent CIA director going live at the Council on Foreign Relations announcing his support of Geo-engineering. If you didnt already know, Geo-engineering is the spraying of particles (like heavy metals) into the atmosphere in order to deflect the suns light back away from Earth. The global elite is considering it as a measure to combat climate change, so they claim. Its fishy because there is a great deal of evidence which suggests that spraying has been happening for decades, for what could be ulterior motives. Who knows what they are, but simple experimentation with weather manipulation might be the answer.

 

Princess Basmah Bint Saud, humanitarian and daughter of King Saudi, compared geoengineering science and programs to weapons of mass destruction, arguing that their implementation is like setting off a bomb without the nuclear explosion. You can read more about that here. David W. Keith, a professor at Harvard University and chairman of Carbon Engineering, when asked about the spraying of these heavy metals into the atmosphere, of which millions of tonnes would have to be used, he said:

You may end up killing many tens of thousands of people a year as a direct result of that decision. 

A United States government document printed at the request of the United States Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation in November of 1978 states:

In addition to specific research programs sponsored by Federal agencies, there are other functions related to weather modification which are performed in several places in the executive branch. Various federal advisory panels and committees and their staffs established to conduct in-depth studies and prepare comprehensive reports, to provide advice or recommendations, or to coordinate Federal weather modification programs  have been housed and supported within executive departments, agencies, or offices.

There are countless documents and more on this, and weve been writing about it for a long time. We have multiple heavily sourced articles on our site about the topic of geoengineering and chemtrails if you want to learn more.

 

This is why it comes as no surprise that prominent author and Canadian economist Dr. Michel Chossudovsky, who is the University of Ottawas Emeritus Professor of Economics and has worked directly with governments on various geopolitical issues, is one of many people from within academia who is and has been speaking out against the grain for a long time. He makes some great points in an article he wrote on his website:

The significant expansion in Americas weather warfare arsenal, which is a priority of the Department of Defense is not a matter for debate or discussion. While environmentalists blame the Bush administration for not having signed the Kyoto protocol, the issue of weather warfare, namely the manipulation of weather patterns for military use, is never mentioned.

The US Air Force has the capability to manipulate climate either for testing purposes or for outright military-intelligence use.  These capabilities extend to the triggering of floods, hurricanes, droughts, and earthquakes.

Weather modification will become a part of domestic and international security and could be done unilaterally It could have offensive and defensive applications and even be used for deterrence  purposes. The ability to generate precipitation, fog, and storms on earth or to modify space weather, and the production of artificial weather all are a part of an integrated set of technologies which can provide substantial increase in US, or degraded capability in an adversary, to achieve global awareness, reach, and power. (Air University of the US Air Force, AF 2025 Final Report, http://www.au.af.mil/au/2025/ . Emphasis added)

Multiple politicians have accused the US of using weather weapons, like Hugo Chaves and the Hati Earthquake, for example. You can read more about that here: Was Hugo Chavez Right About HAARP & The HAITI Earthquake? Is Weather Even Natural Anymore?

If we are talking about climate change, is that the real issue here? If so, why is this type of geo-engineering never mentioned in the debate? Weve fiddled and messed around in our atmosphere so much, and its effects are potentially dangerous, yet its ignored. Climate change, like everything else, has become a political issue with greedy intentions behind its solution. The money always seems to come first, not the planet.

Dr. Rosalie Bertell, American scientist, author, environmental activist, epidemiologist, best known for her work in ionizing radiation, puts it quite well.

It is related to fifty years of intensive and increasingly destructive programs to understand and control the upper atmosphere. HAARP is an integral part of a long history of space research and development of a deliberate military nature. The military implications of combining these projects is alarming. The ability of the HAARP / Spacelab/ rocket combination to deliver very large amounts of energy, comparable to a nuclear bomb, anywhere on earth via laser and particle beams, are frightening. The project is likely to be sold to the public as a space shield against incoming weapons, or, for the more gullible, a device for repairing the ozone layer.

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Environmental modification has been happening for decades yet nobody knows about it, and thats because the everyday dialogue is controlled by the mainstream media. Whats important is rarely discussed or even acknowledged. During the Vietnam war, cloud seeding was used to prolong the monsoon season.

Again from Choussovdusky:

The US military has developed advanced capabilities that enable it selectively to alter weather patterns. The technology, which was initially developed in the 1990s under the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP), was an appendage of the Strategic Defense Initiative Star Wars. From a military standpoint, HAARP  which was officially abolished in 2014 is  a weapon of mass destruction, operating from the outer atmosphere and capable of destabilising agricultural and ecological systems around the world.

Remember, weather modification, according to the US Air Force document AF 2025 Final Report, offers the war fighter a wide range of possible options to defeat or coerce an adversary, capabilities, it says, extend to the triggering of floods, hurricanes, droughts, and earthquakes. 

So, next time a discussion about global change comes up, perhaps you can mention geoengineering and weather modification with confidence, knowing that its far from a conspiracy theory.

Related CE Articles on Geo-engineering & Chemtrails



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Shawnee, I have been hearing about cloud seeding ever since I visited Colorado back in the early 2000's! Guess it was a real problem there with Nebraska needing more rain for their crops.

Then if you remember back when I took my trip out West I drove thru Nebraska in the Corvette during a rainstorm... I recall the rain drops being some of the biggest I have ever seen! Then when we got out of the rain I got some gas and noticed my tires had a silver tint on the sidewalls! Strangest thing I ever seen! Spooky too because if it stuck to my tires sidewalls you would have to imagine it sticks to the crops. Never seen anything like that in all my years of driving or servicing cars!



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Sell it started before that even. The massive rains we had TX and elsewhere this year? Seeding. Good job nitwits.

CA fires recently (camp fires) will never expose the real reason why either.

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Nuffan wrote:
Rastus wrote:


& have been so for a long, long time.



See how Mr.Trump cares for his citizens ?...


 

How do you reconcile this?

 

1.In one post you first claim it has been going on a long, long time...

2.Then you blame it on Trump who just got in office 2 years ago...

 

3.Sounds more like you just want to place any and all blame on the current president due to your obvious BIAS...


 LOL !!!

R1. It has been going on for a long time. Lots of weird stuff was being tried-out after WW-II, including H.A.R.P.

R2. Mr Trump has the power & authority to stop this from happening, as with any other president that's come & gone. At the moment, it IS his fault this continues in secrecy from the citizens & illegals of the US-of-A...

R3. No, I dislike all our world leaders. They're only in it for their ego's & status that it brings to their own circle of friends. The last president that delivered any hope for the people & the world was the late, great, & sorely missed Mr.Nixon IMO. And before that Mr.Kennedy. And before that Mr.Eisenhower.



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HARP was early 50's.

I don't know if POTUS is aware of everything, his plate is pretty full but bet he tries.

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Shawnee_B wrote:

engineering.jpg

 

https://www.collective-evolution.com/2019/03/05/university-professor-condemns-the-united-states-military-for-geo-engineering-owning-the-weather/


  Well,

In this picture at least, no-one's wearing any Breathing Apparatus's...And only one-of-them is wearing gloves...And no Safety Glasses to be seen either...Or chemical suits etc etc...It even looks like they're taking advantage of the Bernoulli-effect, just like fuel flowing through the jets of a carburettor !( The hoses look like they're under negative pressure, not positive pump pressure where they'd expand ).



-- Edited by Rastus on Friday 8th of March 2019 07:36:41 PM

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Bernouli, exactly!!!! Agree on the hoses being sucked not blown either.

Pics like this and so many more and many people still won't believe contrails, chemtrails, seeding, harp etc. They DON"T want to is why.

They are killing us in so many ways, the globalist plan. Yeah, conspiracy theory :)

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Shawnee_B wrote:

Anyone has "closely" read the linked article will see it HAS been going on for decades.

I read mainstream and alt news. If some of what I have seen is correct/true, the powers that were, are not engaged in weather control seeding etc. What else they doing, who knows, evil people that get a paycheck to kill us all slowly and they don't care.

Yes Nuffan,,,, Rastus and PS are biased but they are good mellow chaps. I pass on lots the bias because I remember how biased I was to Obama and still am to the Dems!


 

Yes and if you recall from DH I was one of the few right leaning that always maintained Obama was not the train wreck the right wing declared...

 

I have always maintained the political make up of the US did a 180 after the passage of civil rights...clear proof is to look at a 1960 political map and a 2012 political map...

 

The are 100% reversed...

 

I go overboard to NOT place bias in my discussion and try and stick to the facts...

 

Rastus has already surrendered Trump to the past because he did not end or uncover something before his term is up...

Rastus also assumes the establishment is filling Trump in on every topic...

maybe they never expected him to get elected so they are hoping to ride out a single term until they get an establishment politician back in the oval office...

 

Trump is not PERFECT...

He is a business man...of questionable moral character...Most presidents have had some (some have had a lot) moral flaws...

 

My biggest gripe with him is the way he exaggerates to make things sound more impressive...it feeds a left wing narrative he is dishonest...

 

Obama was also dishonest...not quite as in your face about it...a little more discreetly...but dishonest still the same...so the false outrage is laughable...

 

But in a global economy The USA has to protect it's interest...just a fact...our Trade policies and our tax policies were chasing corporations out of the US...

 

The US economy has been an engine of prosperity to foreign countries like China...due to HORRIBLE Trade policies...policies that were supposed to bring down our cost...only our cost remained steady and PROFIT is what skyrocketed...

 

The dangers of a consumer driven economy...

 

We need to get back to being the worlds largest producers of QUALITY products and technology...

 

Trump policy is headed there and it is WORKING as predicted...

 

The  left only wants to add the tax cut back in and claim we LOST trillions...

 

We lost about 750B NET...which is in line with our annual deficit for the past 10 years...almost on the low side...

 

and our GDP is back between 2.5% and 3.5% each quarter...while unemployment is at it's lowest since World War II...

 

all while democrats embrace a fringe of radicals to try and gain back the power they lost in 2016... 

 

They are going to make it EASY for Trump to win in 2020...

 

Bernie is the strongest the democrats got...and democrats will never allow a white man to be their candidate...it destroys their ability to play the white privilege card...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



-- Edited by Nuffan on Saturday 9th of March 2019 08:10:36 AM

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We need to get back to being the worlds largest producers of QUALITY products and technology...

 

Trump policy is headed there and it is WORKING as predicted...

 


 

How are we going to get back to being the worlds largest producers of QUALITY products and technology when all the money that could be used to back our small businesses is being spent on interest to service out debt?

Don't you feel that we should also get back to being the worlds best service as well?

A lot of small businesses aren't looking for a handout, although there are a few that have played the system pretty well, like this company here -

https://autotrend.activeboard.com/t33799937/stellar-enterprises-llc-michigan-gets-3000000-million-relief/

In the link above the company was given a $3 million dollar loan simply because they were considered performing a "green" service. Many of these loans were given to questionable companies under Obama, and just as my narrative has been told, the Government IS picking and choosing winners and losers.

Most small businesses can't get loans because they are a small business - and even if they do get loans it's some piddly amount usually associated with a credit card and high interest! Not the cushy $3 Million that Obama gave the guy above. Government is doing NOTHING to help the Small Business community! NOTHING AT ALL! They are too busy saving the big businesses that have long since become corrupt and top heavy. 

So really we could call this Geoengineering business.. 

The Government could also do a whole hell of a lot more to ensure Small Business's can pool like the big companies so that everyone has good rates, but they don't. They just want to pick and choose and funnel money VIA programs like the link above to companies they have ties with before they bleed all the money and bankrupt the company. Far less likely to see this happen with a small business owner who is given a chance to buy some real estate and maintain a smaller group of employees.

But what the hell do I know... I have only been in business for myself since age 19...



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And in that 25 years, ZERO is the amount of business loans or grants I have seen come my way.

So trust me, this issue isn't just exclusive to the Trump Administration.



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Nuffan wrote:
Shawnee_B wrote:

Anyone has "closely" read the linked article will see it HAS been going on for decades.

I read mainstream and alt news. If some of what I have seen is correct/true, the powers that were, are not engaged in weather control seeding etc. What else they doing, who knows, evil people that get a paycheck to kill us all slowly and they don't care.

Yes Nuffan,,,, Rastus and PS are biased but they are good mellow chaps. I pass on lots the bias because I remember how biased I was to Obama and still am to the Dems!


 

Yes and if you recall from DH I was one of the few right leaning that always maintained Obama was not the train wreck the right wing declared...

 

I have always maintained the political make up of the US did a 180 after the passage of civil rights...clear proof is to look at a 1960 political map and a 2012 political map...

 

The are 100% reversed...

 

I go overboard to NOT place bias in my discussion and try and stick to the facts...

 

Rastus has already surrendered Trump to the past because he did not end or uncover something before his term is up...

Rastus also assumes the establishment is filling Trump in on every topic...

maybe they never expected him to get elected so they are hoping to ride out a single term until they get an establishment politician back in the oval office...

 

Trump is not PERFECT...

He is a business man...of questionable moral character...Most presidents have had some (some have had a lot) moral flaws...

 

My biggest gripe with him is the way he exaggerates to make things sound more impressive...it feeds a left wing narrative he is dishonest...

 

Obama was also dishonest...not quite as in your face about it...a little more discreetly...but dishonest still the same...so the false outrage is laughable...

 

But in a global economy The USA has to protect it's interest...just a fact...our Trade policies and our tax policies were chasing corporations out of the US...

 

The US economy has been an engine of prosperity to foreign countries like China...due to HORRIBLE Trade policies...policies that were supposed to bring down our cost...only our cost remained steady and PROFIT is what skyrocketed...

 

The dangers of a consumer driven economy...

 

We need to get back to being the worlds largest producers of QUALITY products and technology...

 

Trump policy is headed there and it is WORKING as predicted...

 

The  left only wants to add the tax cut back in and claim we LOST trillions...

 

We lost about 750B NET...which is in line with our annual deficit for the past 10 years...almost on the low side...

 

and our GDP is back between 2.5% and 3.5% each quarter...while unemployment is at it's lowest since World War II...

 

all while democrats embrace a fringe of radicals to try and gain back the power they lost in 2016... 

 

They are going to make it EASY for Trump to win in 2020...

 

Bernie is the strongest the democrats got...and democrats will never allow a white man to be their candidate...it destroys their ability to play the white privilege card...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



-- Edited by Nuffan on Saturday 9th of March 2019 08:10:36 AM


 No Trump is not perfect but I feel with everything against him from media to dems and reps he is doing a pretty good job.

Never liked Obama, not one bit. His inaugural speech flicked my switch off in itself. "lets be honest people, there is no way I can keep all the promises I made in my campaign" 



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Trump is the man...

Trump 2020 all the way! 

If Trump could clench the 2020 Election and Republicans could take back control of the House and the Senate - that would be unprecedented! At least in all my years!

Never seen America trust a final term President with both Houses of congress! It would be a major feather in his hat if he could pull it off!

I am pulling for him, and my now 17 year old son will be 18 when the time rolls around to vote in 2020! Did I mention he too is a Trump supporter?



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