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U.S. Rep. Ayanna Pressley is pushing to lower the federal voting age from 18 to 16.

The Massachusetts Democrat made the proposal as her first amendment since winning election last year.

 

Pressley said young people across the country are taking the lead on key issues from gun violence to climate change. She said that under her amendment people as young as 16 could vote to elect members of Congress and the president.

In a Wednesday press release, Pressley said she believes those who will inherit the country should have a say in electing those who represent them. She noted that in some states like Massachusetts 16- and 17-year-olds can pre-register to vote.

Pressley offered the proposal as an amendment to a Democratic-backed bill aimed in part at expanding voting rights.no



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Guess they need to make up for all them venerable immigrants the President is kicking out of the country!

Amazing, kids are charged as adults here in Michigan at the ripe age of 17! Yet they can not drink or smoke until they are 21! 

They can also be called to serve in the armed forces at 18 also! 

I guess they are trying to set the age for adulthood to 16 in an effort to save money on the child tax credit. 

Much like how they raised the age of retirement to 72 years for people like me... 



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Guess they need to make up for all them venerable immigrants the President is kicking out of the country!

Amazing, kids are charged as adults here in Michigan at the ripe age of 17! Yet they can not drink or smoke until they are 21! 

They can also be called to serve in the armed forces at 18 also! 

I guess they are trying to set the age for adulthood to 16 in an effort to save money on the child tax credit. 

Much like how they raised the age of retirement to 72 years for people like me... 


 I'm OK with the rest but not voting.

Want to join the military, good they will make something of you and it will give you good habits all your life. You'll learn so much that is invaluable. Unless you are a loser to begin and there is still a chance. I graduated at 17, year of EE college before joining during Nam. Would I have changed that? Yes and no. It was an awesome experience, learning experience, the job, teamwork I could go on and on. Different?? I would have finished my EE degree then went to CO springs and became a pilot. Then did my 20.

Charged as an adult? Good! Knowing right from wrong (which most do as little ones unless skitz) is not the same as having any idea at all of politics. 2, 16 year old girls used to visit here prior to election, said "If I could vote it would be Hillary because we need a woman president" That's all, "need a woman" (yeah both pregnant at 16 too, one delivered one aborted) they knew nothing of her or politics. Want that to vote? That's worse than the illegals. I went on with her, not a clue other than that and they are all like that! Good reason persons can't run for POTUS until 35. Think about it compared to can't drink or smoke, apples and oranges.



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Dennis Hopper qt " And a child shall lead them "...

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I think it should be consistent... it's either 18 or it's 21... Not 16 for this, 17 for that, 18 for this and 21 for that. That's just a way to keep kids down with fines!

Should be the same across the country too! 



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Then one can be president at 16, 18, 21? And are capable of the position? Homie don't think so.

If not, when? If you don't have a clue and can't run for POTUS should you be able to vote? I personally think voting at 18 is way to soon.

I could care less when someone smokes or drinks, they will anyway.

States set drinking ages, believe smoking ages too. When you can hunt is different (age) in all states too.

16 is too young and dumb to have a say in elections.



-- Edited by Shawnee_B on Friday 8th of March 2019 06:42:02 PM

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16 is too young and dumb to have a say in elections.



-- Edited by Shawnee_B on Friday 8th of March 2019 06:42:02 PM


 16 is too young to be a mom or a dad too IMO...



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Yes Mate I believe it is.

Got to be a kid, have some fun, travel, work, learn, freebird shit.

Personally I don't see much in young people until 25-35. Until that they are still growing both physical and mental. AND I DON'T WANT A TODDLER DETERMINE THE NEXT POTUS based on sex,,,,, haircut, armani suit (yea that was bildo)

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Then one can be president at 16, 18, 21? And are capable of the position? Homie don't think so.

If not, when? If you don't have a clue and can't run for POTUS should you be able to vote? I personally think voting at 18 is way to soon.

I could care less when someone smokes or drinks, they will anyway.

States set drinking ages, believe smoking ages too. When you can hunt is different (age) in all states too.

16 is too young and dumb to have a say in elections.

 


 

No Shawnee, that is not what I meant... With regards to being President I think they actually should RAISE the age till 45! I remember when I was 35! LOL

But as far as an age for kids to be considered adults - I think 18 or 21 would be fine but that distinction should be made across the board, be it voting, drinking, smoking, etc. 

That is all I was saying.

I also feel that all members of congress should also be natural born citizens.



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Rex. Present age to vote is 18, that's what it is and I don't like it but that's law. That was the gist of the post, lower it to 16? NO FUKING WAY, 18 is too low.

Yes I remember 35 and mentioned 25-35 for a reason, most are not mature enough "mentally", or grown enough until 35. At 35 I was nuts, still am but at 64 I have mellowed a bit. Not because of maturity, busted up or anything,,, but wearing out!!! I'll still drive fast as I can, drift 25-35 corners to see what I can do (60-65 the old goodyear run flats start to drift, need new Vette tires) Jump my 4 wheeler far as I can. I'm still crazy to an extent and it's good for us. But something as important as leaders, making a choice at 16 is not it. I can be pretty cut and dried sometimes, if you can't run for certain offices why should you be able to vote.

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 You're probably right there, at 16 I was a Republican.



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In the ideal conservative society, how old should someone need to be to purchase a gun? And what is the current law in that regard?

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In the ideal conservative society, how old should someone need to be to purchase a gun? And what is the current law in that regard?


 

That is exactly what I was saying PowerStroker! Equal across EVERYTHING!

You're either an adult or you're not. 



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Rex. Present age to vote is 18, that's what it is and I don't like it but that's law. That was the gist of the post, lower it to 16? NO FUKING WAY, 18 is too low.

Yes I remember 35 and mentioned 25-35 for a reason, most are not mature enough "mentally", or grown enough until 35. At 35 I was nuts, still am but at 64 I have mellowed a bit. Not because of maturity, busted up or anything,,, but wearing out!!! I'll still drive fast as I can, drift 25-35 corners to see what I can do (60-65 the old goodyear run flats start to drift, need new Vette tires) Jump my 4 wheeler far as I can. I'm still crazy to an extent and it's good for us. But something as important as leaders, making a choice at 16 is not it. I can be pretty cut and dried sometimes, if you can't run for certain offices why should you be able to vote.

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If 18 is too low then raise it to 21, but make everything legal at 21!

Kids should be considered minors until they are 21, be able to ride on parents healthcare plans, and be eligible for the child tax credit until their 21st birthday, because gawd knows I don't see mine getting out of the house any sooner! lol Unless I in-debt them to a lifetime of tuition fees.  

I still think the age to run for President should at least be 40 and the cut-off 85, of course if someone won at age 85 they could continue to serve until they are term limited. But who knows, 20 years from now they might be able to copy my brain into a new body! Not even kidding! So in that case would I still be my old age, or would I be considered new? Guess that just depends if the bodies were re-used or grown new... How you like them apples? 



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I believe Obama made it so your kids could stay on your policy until their 26th birthday.

Trump may have undone that though, I'm not sure.

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Then one can be president at 16, 18, 21? And are capable of the position? Homie don't think so.

If not, when? If you don't have a clue and can't run for POTUS should you be able to vote? I personally think voting at 18 is way to soon.

I could care less when someone smokes or drinks, they will anyway.

States set drinking ages, believe smoking ages too. When you can hunt is different (age) in all states too.

16 is too young and dumb to have a say in elections.



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You have to be 35 to run for president...and that should never change...

 

I think it should all be one age and that age should be 18...drive, vote, drink, smoke and military... 



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I believe Obama made it so your kids could stay on your policy until their 26th birthday.

Trump may have undone that though, I'm not sure.


 

That is just for the now dying Obamacare health coverage.

The child tax credit on your income taxes is cut off at age 17 and while you may claim them as a dependent it's not the same as that special credit. 



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You have to be 35 to run for president...and that should never change...

 

I think it should all be one age and that age should be 18...drive, vote, drink, smoke and military... 


 

I can get behind 18 just as easy as I can get behind 21... Of course if they could get me a few more years of that child tax credit (without having to have another one) I would be fully onboard for 21, providing it was implemented many years prior to my kids 21st birthday - lol!

I am sure kids would rather be adults at 18 though, as I know from experience that its a good feeling to become an adult... it's just a little rough to become independent at that age, which is why I would support 21 as well, to help parents.

I think 35 is a little too young to become President, but since it's only 5 years off from the 40 years old that I think is ideal, I can live with it as is. lol



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Then one can be president at 16, 18, 21? And are capable of the position? Homie don't think so.

If not, when? If you don't have a clue and can't run for POTUS should you be able to vote? I personally think voting at 18 is way to soon.

I could care less when someone smokes or drinks, they will anyway.

States set drinking ages, believe smoking ages too. When you can hunt is different (age) in all states too.

16 is too young and dumb to have a say in elections.



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You have to be 35 to run for president...and that should never change...

 

I think it should all be one age and that age should be 18...drive, vote, drink, smoke and military... 


 POTUS at 35 is good, most are matured enough and learned enough in life to do the job.

18 seems to be pretty average anyway, straight across the board would work fine, easier.



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I threw cheese slices at the kids yesterday in my efforts to master the #cheeseslicechallenge... While this challenge is more geared towards throwing cheese slices at babies, mine are all grown up.

After recording throwing cheese at them, and their smiles after realizing they had just been subject to some cheesy (no-pun-intended) internet challenge, I had to wonder to myself... if I found my kids stats of tide pods, would I eat them or throw them away?

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In some places in the US, a person can buy a rifle at 14 or 16 years old. To raise the age for purchasing rifles to 18 would be a violation of the 2nd amendment rights for those who are younger would it not? What happened to respecting the traditional cultural values of gun rights?

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In some places in the US, a person can buy a rifle at 14 or 16 years old. To raise the age for purchasing rifles to 18 would be a violation of the 2nd amendment rights for those who are younger would it not? What happened to respecting the traditional cultural values of gun rights?


 Not under federal law one can't. 18 for long guns, 21 for handguns. Private is a different story, in Maine a 10 year old can hunt if accompanied.

Yes it would be a violation of the second to raise longguns to 21. Dicks did it.



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Looks like the fine kids of Vermont at least would lose gun rights under the plan presently under consideration by our resident Republicans.

How dare you try taking their guns away.

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Once again PS and look up FEDERAL LAW, GCA, gun control act of 1968. 18 and 21, period. All 56-57 states. (obombers state count) Of course it applies to only a licensed dealer, private sales are state determined.

I was a licensed dealer, manufacturer much my life. I do know the law inside and out on the matter. You seem to have a problem distinguishing between federal law BATFe and local or state.

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That may very well be true, though If Obama wanted to pass a law that said the kids of Vermont had to wait until 18 or 21 for private sales too, you guys would freak out.

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Oh, it's true alright. Guaranteed by the 68 GCA, BATFe

No I wouldn't freak on that. Gun stores them selves, like Dicks did can refuse a gun to anyone. (so couldn't I based on suspicion or more) Like Dicks did making longguns wait till 21. 2nd violation? Of course, it's an infringement and nothing to do with 18 or 21 either! Has to do with rights. If you are old enough to go to the counter, shell out the $$$ you should be able to walk with your firearm. As it is however we have ATF (gun control act 1968) NFA (national firearms act 1934) FBI does NICS checks. Against the 2nd, of course. Stop the bad people? Yea a 100 a year. Criminals don't use gun stores but dems can't understand that.

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