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Gee I wonder why these people changed their tune on this particular issue in 2016...

 

 



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I find it amazing that some people think it's okay to allow this kind of undocumented immigration to happen!

Your video makes very clear that even Democrats know it's not sustainable.

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Yes the original did not put up the right video, when I edited it, somehow it ended up two post...

 

 

The video is how democrats felt about illegal immigration prior to Trump winning in 2016, Soon as he started actually doing something to curb it they all came out against ANYTHING he tried to do...

 

they call it racist now, only prior to 2016 it was not about racism...

 

They have even started blaming it on climate change so they can paint this picture that the United States OWES these people something...

 

Obama is directly quoted "Do not bring children to the border"...yet Trump is somehow a bad guy for ACTUALLY enforcing the law...

 

They try to make Trump separating Children from "ADULTS" out to be something that it is not...

 

Same things happened under Obama...it is happening MORE now because left wing globalist with an agenda have been financing this bullshit...

 

We accept approximately one million LEGAL immigrants annually and we really should not be allowing that many...

 

 

 



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@randycorporon ............

I know. Lets just stop enforcing all our laws. Then no one will be afraid. Well, except for law-abiding citizens. But, who cares about us? Certainly not @SenKamalaHarris

@SenKamalaHarris..........Right now, countless immigrant families are living in fear of immigration raids. Mothers and fathers are wondering if they are spending their last moments with their children before being separated. Children are too afraid to play outside.

This is not the America I know.

welllllllllll kamala......millions of American citizen parents dont allow their American citizen children out of their sight because of the existential THREAT of ILLEGALS.........
THAT is not the America i grew up in.



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THAT is not the America i grew up in.


 

You're never ever going to have that same America again ! The population has likely doubled or more since you were a child, & that means twice-as-many problems to deal with, even without illegals.

The world is in a constant state-of change. Nothing can prevent this.

MAGA starts at home first & foremost, & everyone has to want to participate & change for the better.



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Remember the solemn words of the late, great JFK...

" Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country "...

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Remember the solemn words of the late, great JFK...

" Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country "...


 

That kind of talk can get your head blown off!



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THAT is not the America i grew up in.


 

You're never ever going to have that same America again ! The population has likely doubled or more since you were a child, & that means twice-as-many problems to deal with, even without illegals.

The world is in a constant state-of change. Nothing can prevent this.

MAGA starts at home first & foremost, & everyone has to want to participate & change for the better.

 


 

It does not have to be exactly the same, and of course it never could be exactly the same... but the attitude of Democrats is such that Americans should just be a door mat for the illegals and people who openly hate this country.

It's absolutely insane that we allow some of these Democrats to maintain their positions with the way they talk about this country! I for one have had enough! Send them back!



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Send them all back to Somalia, AOC and Talib seem to really sympathize with Omar - so lets just send them all to Somalia..

AOC has really been vocal about Puerto Rico, even though she is US born she seems to hold PR in higher regard than the US!

And Talib? Well she has gone out of her way to praise and support Palestine, all the while trying to sever our ties with Isreal.

Facts are facts PowerStroker! These people made their beds!



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Democrats first said there was NO CRISIS...

 

Democrats then said it was a MANUFACTURED CRISIS...

 

Democrats refused ANY and ALL funding for months...

 

Democrats have been in power since January, they have done nothing in the legislature to address the issues at our southern border...

 

but according to Democrats it is ALL Trumps fault because he is racist...

 

Democrats are the racists...they are the ones that see skin color as race and try to use it to gain power...

 

 

 

 

 



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I still don't think it's a crisis for the US when we could use an influx of labor. It is certainly a crisis for the working class people of Central America dealing with massive crop failures, perhaps that's where you are getting the "crisis" from?

If AOC and Talib were born in America, how would we send them "back" to Somalia exactly? And why would you want to corrupt the unregulated free market economy of Somalia with socialists like them anyway? Wouldn't they ruin the great free market experiment going on there?

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I still don't think it's a crisis for the US when we could use an influx of labor. It is certainly a crisis for the working class people of Central America dealing with massive crop failures, perhaps that's where you are getting the "crisis" from?

If AOC and Talib were born in America, how would we send them "back" to Somalia exactly? And why would you want to corrupt the unregulated free market economy of Somalia with socialists like them anyway? Wouldn't they ruin the great free market experiment going on there?


 

 I never made such a claim...so please stop trying to DERAIL the thread...

 

Yes it most certainly is a crisis for the USA...do you have any idea how many people are being detained on a daily basis that we tax payers then have to feed and provide shelter for in these detention centers?

 

It is costing a LOT of money to deal with this influx of people...

 

trying to justify it with you think we need the LABOR is just stupid...

 

we do not need to import the labor coming across our southern border...

 

we do very specific labor imports via H-1B visa.

 

These people coming across the southern border offer no particular skills, we have more than enough manual labor at this time...

 

now the left is trying so hard to pin this on climate change...yet 6 months ago it was not a crisis, then it was manufactured, now it is the result of climate change...

 

Your argument keeps changing and it only serves your opposition when it does...

 

drown you leftist moron in your own ignorance...

 

 

 



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We could go back to "catch and release" and then we wouldn't have to pay to feed and box these people.

Under that policy a huge percentage showed up for their hearings, it seemed to work just fine.

I believe this will join the Japanese internment camps during WW2 as a big stain on American history.


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We could go back to "catch and release" and then we wouldn't have to pay to feed and box these people.

Under that policy a huge percentage showed up for their hearings, it seemed to work just fine.

I believe this will join the Japanese internment camps during WW2 as a big stain on American history.


 

No one cares what you believe...

 

 

Japanese internment camps were taking US citizens and taking away their rights...

 

 

These people are not US citizens there is simply no comparison between the two...

 

 

 

 

 



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It's not a criminal offense to ask for asylum, in fact, it's their right to ask.

Out of curiosity, do you think people care what you believe?

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It's not a criminal offense to ask for asylum, in fact, it's their right to ask.


 

+1 !!! And very-well put.

An issue such as this one, where the US-of-A is NOT an island-on-its-own, & has to share the land-mass with other cultures, will always have concerns at the border where people seek asylum, & a chance at a better-way-of-life.



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It's not a criminal offense to ask for asylum, in fact, it's their right to ask.

Out of curiosity, do you think people care what you believe?


 

 

 

And for the record...I never said ASKING for asylum was a criminal act...

 

It is a CRIMINAL ACT TO BYPASS OUR ENTRY PORTS...

 

You claim they have a right to ASK for asylum...They have NO RIGHT to DEMAND IT....

 

We as a sovereign nation have the RIGHT to turn anyone down who request asylum...

 

When I post something that is purely an opinion...or belief...you do not have to care...lol 

 

 

 



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Good, cause I don't.

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Good, cause I don't.


 nor do we care for YOURS!



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Where have I heard that before? confuse  hmm



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Well, I was here first. If you don't like it, feel free to leave.


 

Yet it is democrats who want to CHANGE things...

 

Democrats want to undo the electoral college...IE Destroy the republic and replace it with democracy.

 

Democrats want to subvert capitalism with socialism...

 

Democrats complain that there is a gap in wages based on gender then turn around and tell us gender is malleable...

 

Democrats are allowing males to compete in female sporting events...

 

Democrats are a complete waste of oxygen...

 

But you were here first so go ahead and be a fuck stick we really do not care....LMAO



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If it cheers you up any, your guy is now tied for #1 !!!

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/donald-trump-andrew-johnson-racist-090653641.html



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Not one single person alive today was around when Andrew Jackson was President! So there is absolutely no way to quantify these ridiculous hypothetical comparisons! 

George Washington and many of the early Presidents owned slaves! Does that mean that we should just abolish the constitution and bill of rights too?

I mean seriously PowerStroker? 

By that rational we haven't seen another racist Muslim race bater like Omar since, well.... OBAMA! Except in this case I can quantify that because I have been alive to witness BOTH! 

So, put that in your pipe and smoke on it for awhile PowerStroker!



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If it cheers you up any, your guy is now tied for #1 !!!

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/donald-trump-andrew-johnson-racist-090653641.html


 

We have gotten used to the left wing creating and spreading false narratives....and telling BOLD FACE LIES...

 

Talib runs out of congress in tears over the use of the term illegal alien...she should read the LAW written by congress which is where the term is also used...

 

There is nothing RACIST about calling someone who enters this country illegally an illegal alien...

 

There is NOTHING RACIST about taking measures to prevent illegal entry to the United States...

 

There is nothing racist about detaining large waves of people at a port of entry until you can make certain they pose no immediate danger to our citizens...

 

There is nothing racist about separating a child from an adult at the border when our agents have no proof they are with their parents...

 

Take the words of our PREVIOUS PRESIDENT....

 



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Those particular things not being racist, aren't the reason a determination has been made about Trump being a racist. We take the entire body of evidence in to consideration before coming to such conclusions. Apparently so too did 4 Republicans.

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Those particular things not being racist, aren't the reason a determination has been made about Trump being a racist. We take the entire body of evidence in to consideration before coming to such conclusions. Apparently so too did 4 Republicans.


 please tell us here and now, WHAT is YOUR entire body of evidence about Trump being a racist?

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Those particular things not being racist, aren't the reason a determination has been made about Trump being a racist. We take the entire body of evidence in to consideration before coming to such conclusions. Apparently so too did 4 Republicans.


 

You and those 4 republicans and do not get to JUDGE someone on racism...

 

Your OPINIONS mean nothing....

 

What exactly is racist about Donald Trump's statement and you need to be very specific...

 

what is your body of evidence?

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Those particular things not being racist, aren't the reason a determination has been made about Trump being a racist. We take the entire body of evidence in to consideration before coming to such conclusions. Apparently so too did 4 Republicans.


Trump was not determined to be a racist...

 

Those 4 republicans condemned his statement....

 

what I still want to know is what is racist about his statement...



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When taken in the context of his history, it's becoming difficult to see it as anything but racist.

This is the birtherism guy after all. Birtherism is clearly a racist conspiracy theory that President Trump eventually admitted was false, but not before convincing an enormous number of unsophisticated people who still believe it to this day.

If you're truly interested in seeing more of the full body of evidence of which I speak, the internet is your friend.

Here is one of many lists that chronicle examples of his racism: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/



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The biggest racist and race-baiter has and always will be the Democrat party.

No documentary needed!



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When taken in the context of his history, it's becoming difficult to see it as anything but racist.

This is the birtherism guy after all. Birtherism is clearly a racist conspiracy theory that President Trump eventually admitted was false, but not before convincing an enormous number of unsophisticated people who still believe it to this day.

If you're truly interested in seeing more of the full body of evidence of which I speak, the internet is your friend.

Here is one of many lists that chronicle examples of his racism: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/


 

YOU want to believe he is racist...

 

YOU are the racist...anyone who uses RACE as a political crudgel is a racist....

 

If Trump were guilty of all these racist acts and civil rights were passed in 1964-68 why has he never spent time in jail for his racist acts?

 

Let me save you some time he is not guilty of racism...

 

 

 



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LOOK!

If just a third of the effort was put into investigating Obama like they have been investigating Trump, then I am pretty sure there would be a lot of broken little Democrat hearts!

But Obama invented the "race card" and thus plays it to this very day, every single day.

It is his black privilege that has shut down any and all transparent investigation into his birthplace and true motives!

Where is Obama today? Doesn't he spend most of his time out of the country? I guess he is taking Trumps advice, along with people like George Clooney who are spending so much time out of the United States.

They all hate America, much like the "squad".



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It is clear Barr is going to bring charges against Clinton, Comey, Lynch not sure if he will try and bring charges against Obama but I think there is a case...

 

The whole way the Clinton email situation was handled is going to come back and haunt democrats....

 

They used bleach bit....using bleach bit PROVES INTENT TO DESTROY...

 

Comey claiming they did not charge Clinton because there was no intent is not going to fly...

 

this is why many powerful democrats are trending lightly....they know this can go very badly for the long term future of the democrat party...

 

and in four more years Trump will not be there anymore. Truth is the only thing unifying democrats at all is a hatred for Trump...

 

Moderate democrats are never going to follow the path of "The  Squad"

 



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DNA Test Reveal 30 Percent Of Suspected Migrants Were Fraudulent

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Just like President Trump said, we have the worst laws in the world. 

Migrants are gaming the system and theres nothing Congress is doing about it. 

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Some of the migrant families arrested at the southern border weren't actually families.

In a pilot program, approximately 30% of rapid DNA tests of immigrant adults who were suspected of arriving at the southern border with children who weren't theirs revealed the adults were not related to the children, an official involved in the system's temporary rollout who asked to be anonymous in order to speak freely told the Washington Examiner Friday.

"Theres been some concern about, 'Are they stepfathers or adopted fathers?'" the official said. "Those were not the case. In these cases, they are misrepresented as family members."


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In North Carolina, in the past 18 months, at least 331 illegal aliens have been charged 

with 1,172 counts of rape or sexual assault against a child

Republicans want to see them deported

Democrats want to give them free healthcare and the right to vote

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It's not a criminal offense to ask for asylum, in fact, it's their right to ask.



 

But this does not suggest they are actually asking for asylum...

 



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A young mother has been accused of giving birth to a healthy baby boy in a

California hospital and then strangling him a day later in the maternity ward

with her boyfriend.

She told investigators she didn't want the baby and her boyfriend wasn't

the father.

Records showed both Torralba and Villa were born in Mexico;

their citizenship status was unclear.

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Well, this is the bollox we get here too...Read on !

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