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Republican vs Democrat Ideology


In the most simple terms....

 

Republicans are about the individual, the rights of YOU...

 

Democrats are all about the collective, what is best for US...

 

What the LEFT does not want people to realize is when there are no more individual rights remaining they will have 100% control...

 

They dodge the very direct question of "How much will taxes go up?" They redirect to cost will come down...

 

They do not want the average citizen to know that they too will have to pay 60% income tax to pay for all these "FREE PROGRAMS"

 

They get support by LYING and claiming the billionaires will pay for it...take every cent billionaires have (and what they make 100% this year) you can not fund government for a year...True Story...

 

The reality is to pay for college tuition, pay for Medicare for ALL, EVERYONE paying taxes will have to pay between 60% and 90%...

 

You can point to Scandinavian countries all you like they run on a free market and have 60% taxes and they are privatizing their retirement because it is not sustainable for their tiny populations...

 

try magnifying it across 350 million people...

 

The next problem is economics...

 

The left thinks it will help those making minimum wage by raising minimum wage to $15 per hour...

 

what will happen...near HALF of those making $10 to $12 hourly (while minimum wage is $7.25) will be let go...down sized to pay the added salaries for the other half that keeps their job...

 

unemployment will jump 2% overnight for those at the very bottom...

 

like it or not that is the reality of a free market...and you can not just force it to be different...all attempts will only harm the economy...

 

The left wants to believe that people will stay here and provide products and services when they are taxed at 60% or more...

 

Those that drive the free market will leave and take all their money and jobs with them...

 

And we will have a Venezuela Economy and be under Marshall Law in RECORD TIME...

 

And your democrat candidates for 2020 ALL OF THEM for whatever reason do not understand this...

 

 

 

 



-- Edited by Nuffan on Wednesday 31st of July 2019 12:23:10 PM

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  well and clearly stated!



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The left thinks?

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Shawnee_B wrote:

The left thinks?


 lol......good point!



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Shawnee_B wrote:

The left thinks?


 

You're taking that out of context....lmao



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I watched the debates last night on CNN and let me tell you, every one of them knows they are going to lose.

Bernie Sanders has to be the most grouchy old man in political history! Total shyster that man! And his arrogance dwarfs that of Trump, even though he is a career politician and hasn't done nothing!

Trump is going to win in 2020, and I know part two of the debates is here in Detroit tonight also, so I may pop in on that one to see how pathetic that crowd is...

This Yang guy, BAD NEWS! Trying to buy the election with $12k or something like that per head - VERY DANGEROUS! 



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Hmmm...

The proposed tax-increases won't hurt anybody, but hopefully spread more available money around for the needy, & create more jobs through tax concessions where to save on tax-paid, the high-earning person is "guided" to invest in the local economy ( eg housing / new builds ) via tax concessions...

I earned great $$$ when I worked as an engineer at sea, averaging say 180-K salary per year. I was also taxed at about 54-cents in every dollar I earned, but I still managed to take home ( net ) well over 2-k each week, & that continued whilst I was on leave too.

I had more money than I could possibly spend in a week. Believe me, I tried to spend it all but couldn't.

These proposed taxes on Big Business won't hurt them. It will promote a pool of money to aid with your health-care, jobs & housing, & the rich will still stay very rich.

In fact its these MO-FO's that need to leave your country, as these folks are the ones that corrupt your politicians.



-- Edited by Rastus on Wednesday 31st of July 2019 08:56:44 PM

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Rastus wrote:

Hmmm...

The proposed tax-increases won't hurt anybody, but hopefully spread more available money around for the needy, & create more jobs through tax concessions where to save on tax-paid, the high-earning person is "guided" to invest in the local economy ( eg housing / new builds ) via tax concessions...

I earned great $$$ when I worked as an engineer at sea, averaging say 180-K salary per year. I was also taxed at about 54-cents in every dollar I earned, but I still managed to take home ( net ) well over 2-k each week, & that continued whilst I was on leave too.

I had more money than I could possibly spend in a week. Believe me, I tried to spend it all but couldn't.

These proposed taxes on Big Business won't hurt them. It will promote a pool of money to aid with your health-care, jobs & housing, & the rich will still stay very rich.

In fact its these MO-FO's that need to leave your country, as these folks are the ones that corrupt your politicians.



-- Edited by Rastus on Wednesday 31st of July 2019 08:56:44 PM


 

Yes they will not sure how you come up with they will not hurt anyone...

 

The LIE of it all is it will not be an increase on strictly the billionaires...

 

it will be an increase and a substantial increase for all who actually pay income tax...

 

and they one HURT the most are those just making enough that they are paying a net amount greater than zero in federal income taxes...

 

most people including middle class Americans would have to triple their current income tax to pay for the programs the democrats are promising to get their power...

 

and listen carefully you ignorant fool...

 

Proposed taxes on big business will not hurt them they will just take their cash outside the US again...

 

This notion you can tax them how ever much you want and they will just take it...is absurd...

 

 

 



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Nuffan wrote:
Rastus wrote:

Hmmm...

The proposed tax-increases won't hurt anybody, but hopefully spread more available money around for the needy, & create more jobs through tax concessions where to save on tax-paid, the high-earning person is "guided" to invest in the local economy ( eg housing / new builds ) via tax concessions...

I earned great $$$ when I worked as an engineer at sea, averaging say 180-K salary per year. I was also taxed at about 54-cents in every dollar I earned, but I still managed to take home ( net ) well over 2-k each week, & that continued whilst I was on leave too.

I had more money than I could possibly spend in a week. Believe me, I tried to spend it all but couldn't.

These proposed taxes on Big Business won't hurt them. It will promote a pool of money to aid with your health-care, jobs & housing, & the rich will still stay very rich.

In fact its these MO-FO's that need to leave your country, as these folks are the ones that corrupt your politicians.



-- Edited by Rastus on Wednesday 31st of July 2019 08:56:44 PM


 

1.Yes they will.... Not sure how you come up with they will not hurt anyone...

 

2. The LIE of it all is it will not be an increase on strictly the billionaires...

 

3.It will be an increase and a substantial increase for all who actually pay income tax...

 

4.And they one's HURT the most, are those just making enough, that they are paying a net amount greater than zero in federal income taxes...

 

5.Most people, including middle class Americans, would have to triple their current income tax to pay for the programs the democrats are promising to get their power...

 

6.And listen carefully you ignorant fool...

 

7.Proposed taxes on big business will not hurt them they will just take their cash outside the US again...

 

8.This notion you can tax them how ever much you want and they will just take it...is absurd...

 

 

 


 LOL !!!

R1. All through the US-of-A's political history, most of your elected Presidents have come from large sums of family money, where-by the elected official never ever had to work a day in their life if they chose not to. Instead, the go for the job of Presidency, & are often elected. eg.,Mr.Trump...How does this man know what it's about to struggle through life, & make ends meet ?...Mr.Eisenhower came from relative poverty on the other hand...

I like Ike !!!

R2. Possible. But starting to tax the multi-billionaires at higher tax rates is a great way to start IMO. And then offering them tax concessions when they re-invest in the US-of-A makes logical sense, & WILL MAGA...

R3. We'll have to wait & see. Also, politicians who earn high wages without paying any tax need to be addressed too. ( Aussie politicians pay NO tax, & get plenty of perks ).

R4. I suggest keeping the tax-threshold where it is for those earning lesser incomes, of say 100-K per-year. Multi-billlionaire's can pay more, heaps more IMO.

You want MAGA, let those who have everything & more share-the-wealth with those who make it for them. Government is just that, to govern accordingly, set laws & taxes, & MAGA for "everyone"...

R5. I NEVER suggested increasing taxes on middle-America, only the super-duper-rich.

R6. Compliments will get you no-where with me !

R7. This is where TAX-INCENTIVES & CONCESSIONS for re-investment in the US-of-A would take hold, & these mo-fo's would then have to re-invest in the US-of-A, not over-seas, if they chose to. This is also where GOOD Government policy & law come into effect. But Corporations run your government.

R8. I never once indicated how much to tax them...But for myself, as a "blue-collar" worker tried to indicate that even when I was taxed at 54-cents in-the-dollar, I still had more money than I could spend. I doubt very much that people who earn Billions of dollars a year would be affected if I wasn't. And affording these people tax concessions when they re-invest in the US-of-A offers a solution.



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Here's what we got in Oz about the Democrats & their debate, in Detroit, Michigan...

Enjoy !

www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-01/five-takeaways-from-the-democratic-debate/11369190

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Rastus wrote:

 

          I NEVER suggested increasing taxes on middle-America, only the super-duper-rich. 

 

 

And there in lies your ignorance...

 

This is not about what you would do...this is about what the democrats running for POTUS will do...

 

NOT ONE OF THEM will discuss what all these programs will ACTUALLY COST...

 

You tax the super duper rich 100% and take all their existing wealth you can not fund government for a year in our current form...

 

Understand almost half those earning money in the US do not actually pay federal income taxes...

 

because of the earned income credit...The rest of us pay about 20%, democrats will take that to right about 60% which is triple what we currently pay...

 

you can not pay for the programs they are promising without taxing at such rates...not even close...

 

 

 



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The real problem with it all is democrats will not tell the truth about where taxation will go...because telling middle class America your taxes will double and for some even triple...will not get them the votes they need.

 

They sell this bullshit that the billionaires are going to pay for it...and they know it is a lie when they say it...

 

Chris Matthew pressed Elizabeth Warren...who flat out refused to even acknowledge the question much less answer it...

 

WHY because the second she reveals the truth that your average American's tax will double....she is no longer a candidate that can get votes...

 

He asked her repeatedly...how much will the peoples taxes go up and she repeatedly said their cost will go down...

 

There is no guarantee any of the programs they support will actually reduce overall cost...in fact many say the programs will have the opposite effect on cost just like government backed student loans did...

 

And yes DEMOCRATS are returning to the RACE card to try and gain votes....the last desperation argument for someone who is clueless.

 

And yes ALL of the democrat candidate are either A) clueless or B) bold face liars

 

They are running on a platform of identity politics...and none of them are very appealing to the middle ground voter, which is why Trump will win by an even larger margin in 2020...

 

 

 

 

 



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No doubt it's time for a clean-out...

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Hysterical watch the debate and seeing all the democrat candidates come out against the ACA (only Biden defended the ACA legislation) Now they want Medicare for ALL not the ACA solution they told us we had to accept...
Also key note was the new stance on immigration and the slamming of the Previous administration's record on immigration...
Apparently today's democrat was not such a huge fan of Obama (at least according to those on stage running for president) 

 

 

 



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