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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky - Arrogant pauper!


Ooooohkay... 

So here we have Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky complaining about "aid" being withheld? Look at this smug little fucker

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/don-t-trust-anyone-ukrainian-082248476.html

He's like an out of control welfare recipient biting the hand that feeds him! 

HEY PAL! It's called "aid", it's not required we give you a single PENNY! 

Doesn't look like he is living too bad off in his photo, you would hardly guess the guy is a pauper! What with that fancy gold plated mantle behind him? Does this look like a country that needs "aid"!?

And was this "aid" originally set up by pay to play people like Biden and the Obama Administration? When THE Ukraine fired that prosecutor at Biden's behest, was that to ensure this "aid" was timely paid?

WTF is going on here anyway!? 



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ATTENTION WORLD LEADERS!


ATTENTION WORLD LEADERS -

THESE POLITICIANS AND PRESIDENTS THAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA PUT IN OFFICE ONLY HAVE A FOUR YEAR CONTRACT, MAYBE EIGHT IF WE THINK THEY REALLY BOTHER AND UPSET YOU.

THAT BEING SAID, WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ONLY AGREE TO MAKE AND HONOR DEALS UNDER THE CURRENT SITTING PRESIDENT. 

ANY DEAL MADE BEYOND A SITTING PRESIDENTS TENURE IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE.

THANK YOU,

THE MANAGEMENT!



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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky - Arrogant pauper!


Well, kinda...

If legislation is passed in to law by both houses of Congress and signed by the president that contains for example, foreign aid to be paid beyond the tenure of the president that signed it, it's still law and has to be upheld until completion if nothing else changes. Certainly the next president can go to Congress and ask to discontinue it by the same method, but said president can NOT do it unilaterally.



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Surely there's a "humanitarian" element here that needs to be addressed first & foremost...If continued aid is needed, surely some renegotiation has to be implemented.

With the billions that go into the defense budget a year ( & then the missing trillions that go on USAP's ), can't a few pennies be spared to help folks-in-need-out ? I mean the place "is" & has been in a horrible & uncertain political position for a l-o-n-g  time...And it's had it's dose of nukes too with the Chernobyl incident......

I'm pretty sure the aid feeds people, & helps pay Russia back the gas bill that keeps people warm. Plenty of truly remarkable people from around the world go in there & take care of the needy. Many US-of-A doctors & nurses freely donate their time, money, & skills in saving children's lives, that are still affected/suffering from the nuke disaster...It's this activity that Makes America Great Again, not the political bullshyte & excuses that goes on.

I'm sure Russia would offer aid, & the lines on the map move again.



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Well, kinda...

If legislation is passed in to law by both houses of Congress and signed by the president that contains for example, foreign aid to be paid beyond the tenure of the president that signed it, it's still law and has to be upheld until completion if nothing else changes. Certainly the next president can go to Congress and ask to discontinue it by the same method, but said president can NOT do it unilaterally.


 Of course, that's exactly what I meant. 



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Rastus wrote:

Surely there's a "humanitarian" element here that needs to be addressed first & foremost...If continued aid is needed, surely some renegotiation has to be implemented.

With the billions that go into the defense budget a year ( & then the missing trillions that go on USAP's ), can't a few pennies be spared to help folks-in-need-out ? I mean the place "is" & has been in a horrible & uncertain political position for a l-o-n-g  time...And it's had it's dose of nukes too with the Chernobyl incident......

I'm pretty sure the aid feeds people, & helps pay Russia back the gas bill that keeps people warm. Plenty of truly remarkable people from around the world go in there & take care of the needy. Many US-of-A doctors & nurses freely donate their time, money, & skills in saving children's lives, that are still affected/suffering from the nuke disaster...It's this activity that Makes America Great Again, not the political bullshyte & excuses that goes on.

I'm sure Russia would offer aid, & the lines on the map move again.

 


 

I don't think Russia has ever offered "aid" the way the USA does! I am pretty sure the Russians offer "loans", which means they have to be paid back, or like you said they can pay it back in land (Crimea).

Helping people in need is one thing Rastus, and I agree helping people IS important... but this guy Zelensky - not very bright to give the Administration that is in control of your "aid" a hard time! And more times than not we are seeing that this "aid" money never even makes it to the people who it was intended for, rather for buying fancy office decor like gold trim and fancy appointments. 

What the people of the USA do to support Ukraine is their own business, they could be doing that work right here for our homeless in California! So deep down they are doing it to travel the world as there are more than enough needy people here in America!

Sorry Rastus, I have serious issues with billions and billions of dollars being squandered all over the world on countries that are often times hostile to the USA anyway! 



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And what is with that guys outfit anyway? Is he getting ready to join Star Fleet? All he needs is one of them Star Trek pins and he's all set! LOL



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OK,

I guess that all I'm trying to point-out, is that after WW-II, & we had NATO formed, the situation of a US-of-A presence was welcomed by all / most in Europe & the free world. Having NATO kept the lines-on-the-map relatively stable in Europe.

Having NATO meant the possibility of a peaceful, & happy life for all.

Perhaps a gradual renegotiation of NATO & its policy is all that was needed, but Mr.Trumpdt is letting people down with his decisions on this matter imo.

Perhaps the scales-of-financing NATO needed readjusting for sure, but not at the expense of losing friends / allies that need you still.

It's obvious to me, that Mr.Zelensky's comments are a desperate plee for help, & Mr.Trumpdt has closed the door on the Ukraine.

Once upon a time, we all fought in wars together for peace, liberty, & prosperity for anyone who values their freedom & basic human rights. The $$$ was found at no expense to uphold this ideal, & now, we're selling our ideal out ?...And letting our friends & allies down ?....

We've lost our way folks.

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President Trump is not one to really form opinions on things unless they are associated with a dollar amount that can benefit or cost him. Interesting isn't it that Trump has however formed very strong opinions about Ukraine nevertheless. Even more interesting, is how Putin recently conquered a large portion of that country recently, showing that Putin has a very strong interest in the US not having any involvement with Ukraine.

Maybe that's why Trump doesn't like Ukraine, because Putin has his eyes on it, and Trump wouldn't want to offend his boss.

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Didn't Ukraine double cross us on many occasion? Isn't that true?



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They were hillary lovers, that's doublecross enough for me.

Far as aid to other countries? Make it on your own, change spending, sell that desk, forget the billion dollar helicopter, put corrupt govt fukers to death, whatever it takes to put more money in the coffer....

I hear all the time, "We have enough to share" or "if you have a bountiful table, share" We have neither, what we have is a $20 trillion debt. Homeless people, homeless vets.

Quit the "benevolent big brother crap" Why do illegal invaders get 2 1/2 times what SSI people, or Vets get?

HOW ABOUT SOME AID RIGHT HERE AT HOME IN THE USA.

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They were hillary lovers, that's doublecross enough for me.

Far as aid to other countries? Make it on your own, change spending, sell that desk, forget the billion dollar helicopter, put corrupt govt fukers to death, whatever it takes to put more money in the coffer....

I hear all the time, "We have enough to share" or "if you have a bountiful table, share" We have neither, what we have is a $20 trillion debt. Homeless people, homeless vets.

Quit the "benevolent big brother crap" Why do illegal invaders get 2 1/2 times what SSI people, or Vets get?

HOW ABOUT SOME AID RIGHT HERE AT HOME IN THE USA.


 



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SELLC wrote:
Shawnee_B wrote:

They were hillary lovers, that's doublecross enough for me.

Far as aid to other countries? Make it on your own, change spending, sell that desk, forget the billion dollar helicopter, put corrupt govt fukers to death, whatever it takes to put more money in the coffer....

I hear all the time, "We have enough to share" or "if you have a bountiful table, share" We have neither, what we have is a $20 trillion debt. Homeless people, homeless vets.

Quit the "benevolent big brother crap" Why do illegal invaders get 2 1/2 times what SSI people, or Vets get?

HOW ABOUT SOME AID RIGHT HERE AT HOME IN THE USA.


 


 

I couldn't agree more !!!

This is why the super-rich need to be taxed more.

Both issues solved then lol.



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Super rich could afford to give up a few more bucks since they are the ones screaming "oh the inhumanity of it all!"

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This might be worth posting here, as maybe the Ukraine PM could see the changes coming...

www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-17/what-you-need-to-know-about-putins-government-shakeup/11874726

And this too...

www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-16/vladimir-putin-russia-parliment-quits/11873008

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Things have gotten so far out of hand with the left that this country has turned into a nation of pussies! 

A lot of people are going to be shocked to learn it's still a jungle out there!



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SELLC wrote:

1.Things have gotten so far out of hand with the left, that this country has turned into a nation of pussies! 

2.A lot of people are going to be shocked to learn it's still a jungle out there!


 

R1. All the "milk & honey" that we all enjoy, was a result of the sacrifice of those that went to war, to fight for the "basic human rights" of everyone, that was intended to be enjoyed by all around the world, hence things like NATO.. If in your view the "country" is turning into a bunch of pussies, it's because we've had-it-too-good for too-long, & don't understand the horrors of the Military Industrial Complex & it's M.O. Not to mention our elected officials have lived near the upper tiers of the "upper class" all their lives, & really have NO clues, as they keep on demonstrating...

R2. The whole point about being a decent person is to help folks who struggle with "the jungle".

Clean out the swamp.



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So you're suggesting that being a decent person would help someone in the jungle?

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you... but is that the reality, or the reality that we want to believe?



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SELLC wrote:

So you're suggesting that being a decent person would help someone in the jungle?

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you... but is that the reality, or the reality that we want to believe?


 

We gotta try !

Everyone is basically a decent person to begin with. Our world & the way it works seems to bring out the worst in the way our leaders are steered, & that has to change.

Our whole society "is" very much being controlled by individuals who are only interested in perpetual wealth & power, as our 100+ year technologies that we use to this day are still the "normal" prove...eg Piston powered vehicles that use fossil-fuels for energy conversion is the late 1800's technology. We still pay power companies to lose a fight in a generator for our electricity, since they can put a tap on the service & bill us. That's 1920's technology. Nukes are 1940's technology etc etc.

"It's hard to see the forest through the trees" sometimes.



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