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SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

The silence around here shows how serious this partisan witch hunt is...

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

I would argue the vote was based on Impeached President Trump's actions, not his politics. Democrats for the most part voted based on the facts... That no House Republican could accept the facts and vote with them, now that is partisanship my friend.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Given the fact three of your own voted Nay, I'd say it's criminal on the part of the Democrats.

They call that "treason", when a partisan faction of the government works to usurp the vote of the American people and attempt to overthrow the Government.

I got bad news for you PowerStroker, historically, it does not end well for people who try and overthrow a legitimate Government.

But don't say nobody never warned you... You could ask the Lincoln conspirators but they are just as dead as the people who voted for and lived thru his Presidency.

Perhaps we turn up the heat in 2020? Eh?

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

Yo,

When the world is run by a few banks, that happen to own/control the Oil Majors, that own the 4-5 International media out-lets that deliver us our news, & when a secret "gov't", free from all checks & balances, & able to do what it wants illegally with USAPS, it's no wonder that the screen-play on the world media stage with US-of-A politics is made to be so complex, engaging, & miss-leading. Not to mention destructive.

Republican's or Democrat's, it matters little. We "have" to do better than this, & the BS we're all fed.

Clean out the swamp.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

This poll is great! Wait until we impeach the next Democrat President, solely on a partisan vote! I'll be sure to bump this thread when the liberals are whining!

I remember when Democrats held congress hostage over the holidays into Christmas eve as they all celebrated with grand parties at our expense.

As for Rastus, he is talking out both sides of his mouth... I don't think he really gives a shit one way or the other.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

If a Democratic president commits an egregious crime like trying to obtain foreign help in stealing an election, then by all means impeach the motherfucker.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Sorry PowerStroker, but you and your party have a creditability problem after that Russian hoax deal...

Better luck next time with that...

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Oh, Impeached President Trump certainly benefited from Russian tampering in our 2016 election. On that point there is no doubt, but there is some reasonable doubt on the part of investigators as to whether our Impeached President personally knew, or was willfully involved in it... Like some members of his campaign who have already been convicted. Or at the very least, the investigators feel they lack the authority to prosecute a president and leave such matters to Congress. Another possibility, is they presently have an inability to prove such a case beyond all reasonable doubt, even though there is no shortage of circumstantial evidence to suggest that's exactly what happened. If only there were less obstruction of Justice, and for that matter, obstruction of Congress, we may have actually found the truth.

Being unable to prove something beyond all reasonable doubt, is quite different from something being a "hoax." It could all very well be true, but in this country one is presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty, which is often a very difficult thing to do, even when guilt exists.

To be legally presumed innocent, and to actually BE innocent are often very different states of existence indeed.

Mueller himself said he could not exonerate our dear impeached president with regard to the Russian collusion issues. And Mueller listed examples of things done by our dear impeached president, that any other person would have been charged with obstruction of justice over.

This is the very reason the House did not include an article of impeachment with regard to the Mueller findings. Instead, the House impeached him for crimes for which not only was the evidence overwhelmingly beyond all reasonable doubt, but his administration even admitted to publicly.

As an amateur officer of the court, I would have thought you of all people would understand these most basic legal concepts. From the very same people no less, who live by the theory "Kenyan until PROVEN American," I would expect better. Having spent years on this site though, I really should know better than to have any such expectations.

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
As for Rastus, he is talking out both sides of his mouth... I don't think he really gives a shit one way or the other.

LOL ! And fair enough too.

I "do" actually care for you guys, & the rest-of-us too. My objections aren't with anyone's points-of-view, as everyone who chooses to speak out, does so from their own perspective, & that has to carry weight & consideration, so as to balance out, & offer alternative perspectives.

Anyhow, my point is that Mr.Eisenhower warned us during his farewell address, about the likely issues of the future that will occur if the "Military Industrial Complex" went on its way unchecked, & now we suffer from being asleep all this time.

Yes Mr.Trumpdt is correctly under investigation at the moment, but what difference does it make who's president, when it's a short-term-job, & the funding for the campaigns comes from the corporations that run-the-country / world ?....

The Democrat's had no problems allowing the DoD budget to be increased to 758 (?) Billion dollars, without question or protest, so what's it matter with "who's in charge" ?...It's a corporate agenda being fulfilled either way.

No nukes is good nukes !!!

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

PowerStroker wrote:
I would argue the vote was based on Impeached President Trump's actions, not his politics. Democrats for the most part voted based on the facts... That no House Republican could accept the facts and vote with them, now that is partisanship my friend.

You would argue a turd looks nice if nancy pants told you to.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

PowerStroker wrote:
Oh, Impeached President Trump certainly benefited from Russian tampering in our 2016 election. On that point there is no doubt, but there is some reasonable doubt on the part of investigators as to whether our Impeached President personally knew, or was willfully involved in it... Like some members of his campaign who have already been convicted. Or at the very least, the investigators feel they lack the authority to prosecute a president and leave such matters to Congress. Another possibility, is they presently have an inability to prove such a case beyond all reasonable doubt, even though there is no shortage of circumstantial evidence to suggest that's exactly what happened. If only there were less obstruction of Justice, and for that matter, obstruction of Congress, we may have actually found the truth.
I'm sorry PowerStroker but America does not recognize the partisan impeachment sham your party has levied on this nation like a spoiled little child. In ALL impeachments of past it was bi-partisan... In the case of Nixon, seven Republicans voted to impeach... In the case of Bill Clinton, 31 Democrats voted to impeach. In the case of Donald Trump, NOT A SINGLE REPUBLICAN VOTED TO IMPEACH! So, your impeachment scam is about the same as the Russian Hoax scam, in that you have proven NOTHING except that your party has become so hate-filled that you will openly break the law and precedent. No one will ever look at the partisan House hit job as a legitimate impeachment, because it's 100% partisan. We have found the truth PowerStroker, the truth is Democrats have a credibility problem and thus are un-fit to lead.

Being unable to prove something beyond all reasonable doubt, is quite different from something being a "hoax." It could all very well be true, but in this country one is presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty, which is often a very difficult thing to do, even when guilt exists.
If you can't prove something, and there is reasonable doubt - it's a hoax! Your party has been caught TWICE now, you have a credibility problem. Please try again.

To be legally presumed innocent, and to actually BE innocent are often very different states of existence indeed.
Most understand that Democrats are trying to railroad the Trump train. It's like I said, you folks have a credibility problem...

Mueller himself said he could not exonerate our dear impeached president with regard to the Russian collusion issues. And Mueller listed examples of things done by our dear impeached president, that any other person would have been charged with obstruction of justice over.
How nice of Mueller to take the easy road and say "I don't know"... I guess he didn't want to be known as having a credibility problem.

This is the very reason the House did not include an article of impeachment with regard to the Mueller findings. Instead, the House impeached him for crimes for which not only was the evidence overwhelmingly beyond all reasonable doubt, but his administration even admitted to publicly.
The House performed a sloppy mess of an investigation, so bad in fact that they are asking the Senate to do their jobs! Sorry pal, your party has a credibility problem AND a documented history of trying to ram half ass legislation down Americans throats, only this time your party is powerless to get away with it. In other words, nobody trust the Democrats!

As an amateur officer of the court, I would have thought you of all people would understand these most basic legal concepts. From the very same people no less, who live by the theory "Kenyan until PROVEN American," I would expect better. Having spent years on this site though, I really should know better than to have any such expectations.
Had Obama been investigated even one half of a percent as much as Trump has been, both before - during and after the election, then we might have gotten the truth... As it stood Obama and the Democrats played the race card and had all his records sealed. Once we break open this sham impeachment and how corrupt Democrats really were/are I think America will be able to handle and move past some of the shocking things your party did while entrusted with the highest office of the land and a super-majority in both Houses of Congress.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

I would also like to point out that the only two people who voted Yes on the poll for this thread were PowerStroker and Rastus...

PowerStroker is a liberal partisan hack, and Rastus is from Australia... Kind of puts into perspective why Democrats love illegals voting!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

I love your Christmas card photo above by the way!

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
I would also like to point out that the only two people who voted Yes on the poll for this thread were PowerStroker and Rastus...
PowerStroker is a liberal partisan hack, and Rastus is from Australia... Kind of puts into perspective why Democrats love illegals voting!

ROTFLMAO !

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Rastus face when he read that ^^

I was just poking some fun buddy, lol - we still love ya!

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

How are you guys coming along with them wild fires over there in Australia? Its getting pretty heavy media attention all the way over here so it must be pretty bad!

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

I need to snowbird is OZ, hate cold!

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

I think Oz is roasting over an open fire at the moment Shawnee! Much like California does in the fall... Might not be the best time to visit, at least some parts of it anyway...

I guess Rastus and his people have not been raking the forests either...

confuse

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

PowerStroker wrote:
I love your Christmas card photo above by the way!

Thanks, I wore it for my good Democrat friends. biggrin

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
I think Oz is roasting over an open fire at the moment Shawnee! Much like California does in the fall... Might not be the best time to visit, at least some parts of it anyway...
I guess Rastus and his people have not been raking the forests either...

Hey guys !

Yeah, the weather down this way has been quite dry, & when the "low-pressure-troughs" kick-in over the interior, lot's of lightening strikes spark blazes so far away from civilization, that its often hard to gain any sort-of-control over the fire. Especially when there's like 2000+ lightening strikes registered across the mainland, particularly southern Queensland & NSW every-other-day-of-the-week.

People do take care of their houses & property, have no doubt, but mother-nature is a force well beyond mans understanding, regardless of what AI & computer-models predict.

And IMO, things will stay like this because of all the fallout from nukes, their activity, & their on-going holocausts. The whole world has been thoroughly nuked now, especially from Japan that still pollutes us, & will continue for a very long time. If we're meant to have so much green-house-gasses floating around, where's the rain ?...Sure the sun is the real cause of the excess heat, as it's burning hotter at the moment, in its activity. And when you have continued radiological releases into the environment all the time, that's got to be eating away at the atmosphere & its layers.

This means more nuclear winters, & summers, like we've been having...And then when things swing from dry to wet, we'll get extreme wet weather happening in more unexpected places yadda yadda yadda...

Shawnee, your more-than-welcome here sir ! But SELLC's right in saying that you may get caught in some unexpected mayhem, unless you stayed city-side somewhere. Darwin may suit you, but it's the wet season at the moment, & cyclones / hurricanes can pop-up suddenly...

-- Edited by Rastus on Friday 3rd of January 2020 03:45:38 AM

-- Edited by Rastus on Friday 3rd of January 2020 03:45:55 AM

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

Here you go folks. This may help a little in understanding the possibilities of a massive fire.

www.weatherzone.com.au/news/supercell-bushfire-thunderstorms-tornadoes-fire-whirls-and-other-deadly-fires-that-spin/530809

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Rastus wrote:

People do take care of their houses & property, have no doubt, but mother-nature is a force well beyond mans understanding, regardless of what AI & computer-models predict.

I was just teasing you about raking the forest Rastus, lol... I know people there keep the place up because it's always beautiful in every photo I see of it...

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
Rastus wrote:

People do take care of their houses & property, have no doubt, but mother-nature is a force well beyond mans understanding, regardless of what AI & computer-models predict.

I was just teasing you about raking the forest Rastus, lol... I know people there keep the place up because it's always beautiful in every photo I see of it...

Hey, that's fine SELLC, we've been friends for so-long now, I know when we're razzing-out-a-little lol ! ( It's true though that the "printed" word is easy to miss-understand 'cause we can't "hear" the way stuff-is-said).

Thanks for liking our little Australia, it's not too-bad here IMO.

The US-of-A has many grand & scenic places too. Simply stunning. Let's hope your leaders realize that part-of-their job/responsibility is to ensure the countries ecological health & well-being. Most things in our natural world cannot be fixed by simply throwing money at the issue. Educated management, law-making & planning decisions ensure our basic survival, less-so money imo.