Whoa...

This is a difficult subject imo, since the planning of these events happened so long ago with the 1st Gulf war. We're discussing one event, that's the new addition to atrocities on an already extensive list of disgraces.

Here's how I see it...

* 9/11 occurred, & we were all deceived about the events...

* We were led to understand that Al Qada was behind the events, led by Osama Bin-Laden, who was in a US-of-A hospital in Saudi Arabia at the time...( Not to mention that the Bush's, an oil-family, had been doing happy business with the Bin-Laden's since 1976).

* So we then went into Iraq, to further decimate the country once & for all, killing another estimated 1.5 million people, with NO blood & guts shown on the TV, & sanitized TV coverage, like it was a game of foot-ball that was televised 24/7 for the duration....

* We also went in illegally using both Depleted & Enriched Uranium weapons. This will kill-off the natives for good, with population decline over time causing gradual elimination. This is also called genocide btw.

* UN inspectors were NOT allowed to investigate & take samples of the war zones ( Falluja ) until a full 6-weeks after demanding entry. This gave us time to litterally "cover-up" with uncontaminated dirt the areas affected. This reduced contamination results, but not all. The truth often finds a way out.

* So now, the largest US-of-A military base outside the US-of-A itself, is in Iraq, built by big-Dick Cheney's Halliburton ( cough cough ) & other interested parties. They get to rebuild the infrastructure too, whilst placing selected people in power, so it all looks like a helping hand, but no-one sees the $$$ being pocketed by a certain few, or the $$$ to come from controlling one of the Major oil outlets in the world...

This current event is unfortunate for all of us concerned. It's a man-made & deliberate mess, that's only a page-of-action in a horribly large ugly book, that's not finished yet.

-- Edited by Rastus on Friday 3rd of January 2020 09:55:29 PM

SELLC wrote:

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1. So what are you trying to say Rastus? 

2. That we should have done nothing like Clinton in Benghazi? 

3. Nah, I don't agree.. We did spend a lot of money on Iraq, and we lost people as well Rastus so I don't really share your sympathies in any way. 

4. In fact, I think you're being a bit foolish because these people would just as soon kill your infidel ass than look at you. 

5. But you go ahead and sympathize for their losses, whatever takes away from the fact that Obama pulled us out of Iraq WAY TOO EARLY! 

6. Iraq has to pick a side, the USA or Iran... They also have to know the proxy game is not going to work! 

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 LOL !

R1. Greedy people run-the-world, & they'll kill anyone to keep their power / monopoly.

R2. There's nothing wrong with minding your own business. We have to put the value of any life above anything monetary.

R3. We invaded a country for the 2nd time, without any proof of weapons-of-mass destruction, or intention to use them against us, & Iraq didn't cause 9/11.

R4. Quite possible. But the Middle Eastern wars generally keep to themselves, & don't spread. The UN allocated land to the Jewish folk after WW-II, & we've had permanent wars ever since. Great business for arms dealers.

R5. Sympathy for the state of a miss-guided & led humanity, in the hope of universal respect & friendship with one-another & peace, is where I'd like to see us heading.

R6. Complicated for sure, but a true & great World Leader would be seeking all options for peaceful resolutions, & without the extortion of a nations sovereignty, whilst posing like the good guy. If they didn't have oil there, we wouldn't be there, though no doubt we'd still be selling arms to Israel, as good business is good business.

To answer your question, imo, Iraq will side with Iran, & they'll both fight to the end. The Arabic tribes have their own internal disputes & fights that they sort-out among themselves. Once someone else steps in, they'll side together & tell them to f***-off, & then get back to their own battles...

Imagine your boys having a no-shyte punch-up among themselves, & a "friend" tries to break-it-up...Chances are they'll both fight-the-friend off, & then get back to their original punch-up.

 

-- Edited by Rastus on Saturday 4th of January 2020 07:55:31 AM

-- Edited by Rastus on Saturday 4th of January 2020 07:57:18 AM

Iran Will Punish Americans Wherever They Are Within Reach Iranian General Says 35 Vital US Positions And Tel Aviv Are Within Irans Reach

 

And just for the record, here's a quick look at the wars we've been involved with, & remain involved in...

What do you think is the longest war we've been involved in ?....

Read on !

www.counterpunch.org/2020/01/01/iraq-americas-other-longest-war/

Lot's of stuff happened after WW-II, & the forming of the NSA & CIA is where your gov't divided into 2 x parts, the "public gov't" that you see on TV & vote for legally, & then there's the other-side where unacknowledged & secret operations are taking place with your tax dollars, unchecked, & from multiple sources, though namely DoD budget.

G.W.Bush senior had his hands in many pies for many years, & then became POTUS. If we could take "this" element out of the equation, then it's possible Mr.Kennedy would have been around for his full term(s), & we would have now, quite possibly, a much better world to live in.

With the above statement in mind, I doubt someone like Mr.Trumpdt would even have become a POTUS, or have even been considered.

The house that I grew-up in had an extra room added on the tail-end of it, that us kids could have to ourselves yadda yadda. And one of my earliest memories is of a photo of JFK that was encased & framed, & hanging on the wall. For some reason, I always thought it was a photo of my uncle lol !-Until that day arrived & you learned who it was lol !

Tragic to learn the ways-of-the-world, & what happened to this great man. And too many others also.

You don't go on Twitter lo to have a chat with these guys lol ! But there's always the possibility to meet-up after this life !