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SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Feds may take control of UAW!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Wait a minute, are you in favor of the government taking over private enterprise now?

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

I'm just floating the idea... I take it you're not a big fan of the idea?

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

I was just surprised since your party thinks the government has no business in private enterprise.

I'm in favor in a change of leadership in the UAW, but not a government takeover.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

What? All of a sudden the Government running everything don't sound like such a good idea?

confuse

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

I never said it should. Some things are done better by private enterprise, and some things by the government.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

I think thats the dumbest thing I have read all day!

The reality is that you talk out both sides of your mouth!

This thread is an instant classic and polarizes just how you really feel about the Government!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

How exactly? I think lots of things are done better by private enterprise. I wouldn't for example want the government to build my computer or my car. On the other hand there are many things the Government does do much better/more efficiently than the private sector ie: health insurance, utilities, roads etc.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Insurance!? WTF!? confuse IS YOUR INSURANCE THRU THE GOVERNMENT!?

Utilities!? WTF!? confuse Are you aware our grid is in VERY poor condition and that Texas has it's own grid? What about that utility in California? REALLY?

Roads!? Have you ever been to Detroit!? Our new Governor got elected with the slogan "Fix the damn roads" she's a Democrat and guess what!? On top of all the taxes we already pay she wants to increase gas taxes to the highest in the nation to do it! What about all the money we already pay or have paid!?

I think it's clear, you might be FOS!

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

But it was okay when Obama took over GM and bankrupted the company, right?

Whatever dude, the Government taking over your little union is just your roosters coming home to roost!

Enjoy!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

First, I'm not in the UAW, I'm a Teamster. Second, Obama SAVED GM from disappearing off the face of the planet, and then turned it back over to the private sector once it was saved. With regard to health insurance, no, I have a plan through my union, and while it is good, it's not nearly as efficient as Medicare. I would like a slightly revenue positive Medicare buy in option available for those who aren't yet eligible by age for the free one. Then people could choose whether they want private or government health insurance (I would pick Medicare).

Utilities run by the government are done so at a much lower cost to the consumer since there isn't a profit motive behind it. With regard to the condition of the utility infrastructure, that is a product of how much people are willing to pay in taxes. If there were a referendum on your ballot that suggested raising your taxes to fix the roads, would you vote for it?

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

If the Federal Government does take over the UAW I am sure it will have implications for the Teamsters, one of them being that the Government could take them over as well!

If you have health insurance thru a pool from your Union then I highly doubt you would take the Government option, unless your motives were to not pay for health insurance. So in other words, you're lying. You could prove me wrong by going into any one of your Teamster meetings and video record yourself suggesting that everyone lose their private insurance and go on Medicare, and of course that video will never be uploaded because you are in fact lying.

Obama did not save GM... Bankruptcy allowed a NEW GM to emerge, one where public offerings may have placed enough common shares in the hands of foreign hands than what is being held by Americans! The old GM is dead, KILLED by Obama because he would not bail them out. I just don't know where you come up with these bizarre fictions about Obama doing anything for anyone unless it somehow enriched him one way or another. Obama is a fool, and you are a fool for buying into that nonsense.

In closing, fuck your new taxes! I want a better accounting and use of the existing taxes, which are much too high already! Everything is taxed, except for food but they have figured out a way to tax fast-food or any restaurant purchased food. I could fill pages of all the taxes people must pay, where is all this money going? Obviously it's not being used efficiently if they need more! After all these decades building roads you mean to tell me that they still can't figure out how to make them better and for less? What motivation do they have? NONE! Because people like you run around like a fool suggesting we just make new taxes!

You and people with your mindset have caused most of this mess... Your bleeding heart stories, Oprah like tactics of exploiting people for gain and the constant ignorance when it comes to common sense solutions are the Hallmark of the Democrat party and their respective Unions who give so deeply to the Democrat campaigns.

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
I could fill pages of all the taxes people must pay, where is all this money going ?....

USAP's

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

What are USAP's?

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

I think you misunderstand my Medicare public option so I will explain my proposal better...

In the Affordable Health Care Act (Obamacare) there was an exchange created where health insurance plans that conform to a minimum standard were offered to those who don't already have coverage, and a sliding scale of subsidies depending on an individuals income were included to help people afford one of the plans from the exchange...

I merely suggest adding a Medicare option on the exchange, that people WOULD STILL PAY FOR at a slightly revenue positive rate determined by the Medicare actuary, call it cost plus 3% for the sake of argument. That way, for people who don't already have insurance, there would be another OPTION on the exchange, one by the way that would have a much lower cost than most (the typical private insurance plan is sold for a LOT more than cost +3%).

This would accomplish 2 big things:

1 Put downward pressure on prices for the private plans who now have to compete in a free market with a slightly revenue positive Medicare plan.

2 The 3% profit margin would strengthen the Medicare trust fund which is presently underfunded and has a very high risk pool of old people.

Understand, I'm not suggesting the old people who get it for free should start paying for it, I'm merely suggesting that a paid version be an option on the exchange.

I would also suggest allowing drug prices to be negotiated with the pharmaceuticals by the government for such a program to improve costs and efficiency even more.

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Wednesday 15th of January 2020 12:07:02 PM

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

And your above answer explains exactly why your roads suck by the way. You need to be willing to pay for improvements, clearly you are not, and the fact that your infrastructure sucks only proves that democracy works - No taxation without representation - you get exactly what you want, or in this case, deserve.

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Wednesday 15th of January 2020 12:08:43 PM

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

I think you're mistaken... The previous Mayor of Detroit, a Democrat, went to jail on corruption charges and the City went bankrupt. Not only that but two of the big three also went belly up!

People have already paid for these services, probably several times over by now.

And you should also know that as a mechanic I could care less if they fix the roads! We just hate having to pay for it two or three times over! We also don't like to see new roads falling apart in less than five years!

Some of the BEST stretches of highway I have EVER driven on were private toll roads, usually down South. Heck they will burrow a hole thru a mountain and even run street sweepers down the road to ensure the road stays in optimal condition.

So you can keep smoking that crack.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

If you prefer tolls over taxes, feel free to move to Alabama. I'll even trade you a one way ticket for that red Corvette!

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

I have been to Alabama, lots of hills... the toll roads I speak of are not quite that far South but they do trail thru the mountains.

I like driving my Corvette thru them in the spring and summer months, although it probably is getting flat spots on the tires from sitting all winter. I hope to put some miles on it in 2020 driving cross country.

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
What are USAP's?

Here you go, check this out...

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Things been real busy over here, can I get the Cliff notes for this video? Or perhaps just what USAP stands for. lol

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

Lol !

Here you go !

*U_nacknowledged

*S_pecial

*A_ccess

*P_roject

('s = plural)

Here's a link to the next film, that goes much into detail about USAP's, & other gigantically important information.

Enjoy ! And find the time to watch it all, as it's a game changer imo.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Cool, I am going to check them out but currently I am unable to enjoy anything with all that's on the mind. It's been unusually busy since Christmas - not that I am compiling, because I'm not..

Seems everyone is busy lately, a run past the local bars on the way to get parts and the parking lots are all PACKED! Wasn't long ago under Obama no-body had any money to enjoy themselves and the bars parking lots were all empty. I don't get to actually go into the bars as I usually drink at home if I even drink at all. I use the bar parking lots and my work load as a way to gauge the economy and from what I am seeing it's BOOMING!