PowerStroker wrote:

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Neither of those are examples of an Executive branch directing the Justice Department to prosecute anybody. And to my knowledge, the surveillance of Trumps calls with Russia weren't even ordered by any partisan either. He was simply picked up because all calls to foreign adversaries are subject to NSA monitoring.

"Hey guys, you'll never believe who just called the Kremlin"

^^^ Obama had nothing to do with this, Trump was picked up legitimately through his own behavior. If you want to blame somebody for that, you can blame George W Bush for the Patriot Act which put that whole program in place.

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If you want to play dumb with regards to the Clinton/Lynch tarmac meeting that's fine... I doubt anyone would notice, in here anyway.

How did they know who just called the Kremlin? Did they break the law to ensure he was unmasked?

And don't blame Bush for Obama continuing the Partriot Act! Obama slipping it into an unrelated medicare physician's act only fooled Liberals! Everyone else who is not "dumb" knows it was Obama who kept the patriot act alive, probably to spy on Republicans!

A former president allegedly asking the Justice Department to not prosecute someone while on a tarmac or anywhere else, is not the same as a current president directing the Justice Department to arrest and prosecute someone.

Any phone call that originates within the US to anywhere outside the country is going to be recorded and analyzed by NSA computers for possible review by NSA personnel. It would seem Trump made such a call that was flagged and sent up the ladder for analysis. So far as laws regarding "unmasking" are concerned, I can't offer legal advice. I'm by no means suggesting that everything the NSA does is justified or even legal. But if you are suggesting that the NSA was specifically ordered by Obama to monitor Trump, then I'd like some proof, because it sure seems like Obama had absolutely nothing to do with it based on my understanding of what happened. Just as Obama had nothing to do with Trump University being sued for fraud. Just as Obama had nothing to do with the MANY women who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct since long before he was ever president. Just as Obama had nothing to do with the House of Representatives rightfully impeaching Trump for improperly using government influence against a foreign country in order to help his own election prospects here at home. Just as Obama had nothing to do with the House of Representatives rightfully impeaching Trump for inciting a violent insurrection against democracy itself. 

Trump doesn't need any help from Obama to get himself in trouble. Corrupt people can get into plenty of trouble all by themselves. Let's stop blaming Obama for Trump's corruption shall we?

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Thursday 24th of June 2021 11:05:57 PM

It's been raining since I got up this morning...

I don't want to spoil the party, but PowerStroker just loves going off topic...

It's like the past year has never happend to some degree... people are totally fine with the fact that an even MORE deadly and transmittable "Delta" varient of the original COVID-19 flu is out there in circulation. 

There is so much back and fourth with the vaccine one really wouldn't know what to believe, same with the origins of the virus.

It's clear the Democrats ran with Trumps dumb little idea to shut down the country, for a week... We will forever look back at that as the most retareded mistake in the history of America! 

Brought to us by Donald Trump VIA Doctor Fauci! 

If you look back at them meetings, how crude and out of sync they were... it's clear they were winging it as they become drunk with power and fame. 

Democrat Governors in swing states were clearly instructed to lock down their states to a rediculous level, a times ten response to Trump and Fauci, a hold my beer moment if you will.

Now I don't care what your politics are, this has gone too far! To quote the ending of the movie Clue, "They all did it! Take 'em away!"

 

Another fucking idiot hard at work

Biden admin launching 'door-to-door' push to vaccinate Americans, sparks major backlash

https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-admin-door-to-door-coronavirus-vaccines

Yeah, they should start in the inner cities like LA, Detroit, New York, Chicago, Portland and perhaps even Minnesota... 

Minnesota already hit a 70% vaccination rate on July 1. But sure, if they want to come door to door to help get us even higher they are absolutely welcome.

But wait PowerStroker, how will the Government know which houses to visit? Wouldn't they just have to blanket the entire country or risk breach of Doctor / Patient confidentiality, or at least basic privacy amendments and laws by dipping into Americans health records, the entire basis for Obamacare and the digital records act?

What say you?

Okay, this is starting to really get retarded... They are now naming COVID like Apple iPhones!

We now have the "Delta Plus" for all you people who are looking for the latest and baddest version!

You've heard of the delta variant, now there's "delta plus.?" How worried should you be?

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/delta-plus-variant-much-concern-193016350.html

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Very interesting Rastus, I didn't read it all yet either because it's quite large but it seems to identify the next big term "Disease X"...

Here in the USA the MSM is all up on the "Delta" version of the 'Rona coming from India. Some outlets are even starting to suggest that the vaccine may not be effective against this strain and there are even reports of some people going all out and getting all three vaccine shots! I know that sounds crazy but they let one guy do it! He said his reactions were much worse the 3rd time around too. 

I have no doubt this pandemic is like gold to Governments and world leaders and they will keep it going as long as they can... I just worry at some point they might let out a REAL deadly one just to re-inforce the grip on power. This whole COVID thing could have just been a test run for the real thing and that's the sad part. People been dying of the flu for ages now, they can't even cure the common cold but they are going to fix the COVID-2019 even if it takes them until 2030, or however many more elections before they feel comfortable with their grasp on power. If all else fails there is always good old fashioned war! Sad really.

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Looks like Dr. Fear Faucet is back at his regular fear-mongering trying to get the country shut down!

This guy must really long for more disese just so ignorant oppressed people will put his silly looking face on a cupcake!

Looks like the Democrats have no more use for Cuomo anymore either, can't say I will be sad to see him go and I don't even live there! But the same needs to happen with Fauci!

Back in June I was saying how the media was looking primed to blow this Delta varient up into enormous panic and they keep leaving the door open with more mutations! Isn't that kind of how the flu works too? 

It's getting way far out of hand... 

Fauci warns more severe COVID-19 variant could emerge as cases rise: US 'could really be in trouble'

https://www.foxnews.com/health/fauci-severe-covid-variant-could-emerge-cases-rise

The millions of dead people aren't fake. It's so bad in India that people have to take a number and wait in line to have their family members cremated in parking lots across the country. This isn't propaganda from some government either. There is no shortage of independent journalism with photographs for you to see for yourself. The virus is changing rapidly, and becoming more contagious and deadly as it continues to evolve. It would be a real shame if humanity had to deal with this virus forever as an endemic part of our lives like the cold and flu (only far worse), for no other reason than our one opportunity to eradicate it was squandered by an unwillingness by too many to take a vaccine. I don't want anyone here to end up sick, or dead, or bankrupt due to a fear of some hidden agenda behind the vaccines. I want to continue our great debates, but I want healthy sparing partners otherwise it's no fun.

Governments all over the world keep secrets as a matter of regular business. Secrecy does not necessarily mean they have sinister intent. The vaccines do not contain microscopic tracking devices. They do not alter your DNA. All an MRNA vaccine does is synthesize a protein found on the virus spikes, which trains your immune system to immediately identify said protein as the enemy whenever it is detected, and allow your immune system to mount a counter attack before it's too late. There is no shortage of data from non government sources to confirm the effects of the vaccine, including how the vaccine efficacy is steadily dropping against this ever evolving threat. We don't have a whole lot of time for people to have their "Come to Jesus" moment before it becomes impossible to eradicate this. To be a fan of conspiracy theories in normal times on issues where being dead wrong doesn't matter is one thing. But these aren't normal times, and being wrong on this one could end up plaguing humanity forever. We can't afford to be wrong on this. Just as our ancestors couldn't afford to be wrong about polio and small pox. If there were this much disinformation back then, and this many conspiracy theory driven people back then, we might all be still dealing with endemic polio and small pox in our lives today.

I am a lover of freedom too, but given the choice between freedom from a temporary mandate, or freedom from something plaguing humanity forever, I think the choice is clear. You can't have both freedoms, so choose wisely please.

Easy there SELLC...

PowerStroker has a fair point-of-view, & not everyone in the Gov't is a crook. It's just that imo, being in the Gov't means that you hold a "place", & to keep that "place" you have to shut-up, & roll-with-the-bollox sometimes.

The problem seems to be that "sometimes" is "most-of-the-time" now-days.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that folks in the poorer regions of the world are being wiped-out, using this, or another virus as the source, & the wealthier countries, are having to play-along with it all, & placebo-vaccines are being offered...

Apart from all the bollox, I just can't accept that when folks like Bill Gates, who have been for decades funding countries to reduce population numbers, are now paying for vaccines to keep people alive.

And when Mr.Neil Ferguson ( Remember him ? He started all of these death projections ) , openly states that he made an error in his calculations by near-on 25-times...This results / calculates into only a marginal, if any increase in normal deaths around the world from the regular cold or flu.

And in finishing ( and this is a very short post lol ), how are we to believe these same people, who now want you to go to a highly toxic & radioactive Tokyo, for the Japan Olympic games with family & friends ? And let's not forget, that WNN says "radiation is good for you, as it kills the Covid virus"....So how can Japan even be finding Covid cases ?...

And don't forget that the IAEA, & the WHO ( International Atomic Energy Agency & the World Health Organization ) have a pact with each other, to not allow reports on one-another to be released, without the consent of either party....It's the WHO that's corrupted here, & Data Protection laws world-wide mean that once YOU are in the care of a Doctor, they can say whatever they want as far as data goes, since you are essentially a number.

COrona VIrus Disease 2019, imo, is just these people "never letting a good disaster go to waste"...And as always, since they created the disaster, like sheeple, we go running to them for a solution...And of course, they're solution is a vaccine...Aren't they nice ?...

Bollox.

-- Edited by Rastus on Thursday 5th of August 2021 10:14:10 PM

The facial expression on Leonardo there^^^ is exactly the same as the expressions on the faces of the traitors who stormed the capitol while wearing maga hats and proudly carrying swastika and Confederate flags, with which they beat and maimed Capitol police in an attempt to overthrow democracy itself. Indeed, I could absolutely envision that character using a blue lives matter flag to spear a policeman.

The Capitol police clearly need more firepower, they should have mowed every last one of those motherfuckers down in a barrage of hot lead. When a person become so irreparably consumed by rage and racism that they can't even listen to reason anymore, they are no longer useful to society, and should be removed from society.

Back to the topic at hand though... The vaccine isn't "government juice" flowing through your veins, it's BIG PHARMA's juice. And as a Republican, I would expect you to be blisfully gleeful over anything big business does.

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Friday 6th of August 2021 01:51:27 PM

SELLC wrote:

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"You know what you didn't see much of at the insurrection? niggers and faggots... 

You know what else you didn't see there? You didn't see any National Guard... Just good ole' regular unarmed people walked up and shut that bitch down! 

As Pelosi and the Democrat scum were trapped, along with all the RINO's - only one casualty occoured when some pussy ass Democrat DC cop shot an unarmed woman without warning! That pussy is in hiding, along with his pussy ass crying buddies who took the stand and described how angry citizens kicked their asses. There was no "mowing down" of any people PowerStroker! The only people who were mowed down were your idiot politicians who have done nothing but destroy this country for decades!

Your problem, PowerStroker, is thinking your party is anything other than a bunch of unpatriotic niggers and faggots." 

 

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The woman who was shot was the only traitor that day who got what she deserved. And if after your above statement you maintain that you are not a racist, well, we all know better.

PowerStroker wrote:

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The Capitol police clearly need more firepower, they should have mowed every last one of those motherfuckers down in a barrage of hot lead. When a person become so irreparably consumed by rage and racism that they can't even listen to reason anymore, they are no longer useful to society, and should be removed from society.

 

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They should have started that policy in Minneapolis during the riots, or in Seattle and everywhere else people becaome so irreparably consumbed by rage that they burnt down the entire town!

 

 

Perhaps if they were all "mowed down with hot lead" as you suggest above, then the capital riots would have never happend?

Although I didn't see anyone burn anything down, or destroy any private property in the insurrection. In actuality it was their House and they could do whatever they wanted to!

The Government has got insurance! Unlike the many hard working private companies that the Democrats like to destroy and burn to the ground. 

Now you just have yourself one big shithole over there, burnt to the ground... no police and people like Omar calling your shots! 

It's really poetic justice if you ask me, but I can see why you're so upset and want to see people getting "mowed down"... it's because YOU are having to live in the mess you and your party have made.

Enjoy!

The medical data supporting my positions didn't come from my political party, it came from the non partisan experts on the subject.

When the data on any given subject changes, my conclusions can change too, how about you?

Regarding who should be mowed down with a barrage of hot lead, I would point out the false equivalance you are trying to create here. The rioters in Minneapolis and other cities protesting the murder of black people by white cops did not at any point try to overthrow democracy itself, nor did they engage in any treason against the United States. The racist motherfuckers who stormed the Capitol however, and who built a gallows there for Vice President Pence, well, they should have all been shot on sight, and their graves peed on by real American patriots like myself.

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Friday 6th of August 2021 04:51:23 PM

You know everything you just said was pathetic partisan chest thumping. Really the kind of thing I would expect from Trump, but now it would seem your inner Trump is showing!

Think I even seen a few Bush feathers in there somewhere!

Trump isn't man enough to do his own peeing, he hires hookers to do it for him.

 

RIP Ashli Babbit, & all the good people standing-up, & protesting for their rights.

I'd say you can burn in hell too, but from the looks of things you're already living in the burnt down ruins of hell there in MN.

The DC cop that shot her put her on the pedestal.

For some idiot like you to question her patriotism, all the while supporting a no good peice of shit drug addict criminal like Floyd is not surprising. 

That is why your party is the way it is... loserville.

You ever been to a Union strike? Ever had to try and cross the picket line?

You can STFU now.

I don't use illegal drugs PowerStroker, I also don't pass counterfeit bills and then resist arrest while having swallowed a fatal dose of said illegal drugs that Floyd was hooked on. I also don't point handguns at pregnate womans bellies like Floyd.

Federal property belongs to "we the people" and the constitution states clearly that duly and unduly elected representatives who have become tyrannical are to be removed from office.

If a bunch of out-of-towners, a majorty of whom were unarmed, managed to shut down DC then just imagine what will come to pass when you liberal idiots cross the line and they aren't just protesting but actually excersizing their rights to remove tyrannical idiots like yourself from office? I think it's great that a majorty of Liberals are all confined to big cities who rely on the rest of the nation to even survive. 

 

Are you suggesting that Floyed overdosed on marijuana? I think his drug of choice was the very much illegal in all 50 states, METH! If you don't understand the difference then perhaps you were lying about seeing the show Breaking Bad. Marijuana, like alcohol, is legal for recreational use here in Michigan, has been for YEARS and YEARS! Even longer for medical use!

What you "seem to recall" about the past amounts to nothing more than hearsay. I don't have any such offences because I don't mess with that shit! Although I have known many people, some friends, some of them even girls who did. 

DOXING the Administrator of a forum will usually result in some form of action, in your case it was a vacation from the V8 Cafe, not a manditory vacation from the forum. I know you don't see the symbolism there, as if to say "Hey asshole if you're going to dox the Admin you should probably do it in the private forum" but some people are just thick in the head... we call them people "Democrats"

It's not clear that Republicans lost! In fact, in ALL the liberal-swing-states there were unusual circumstances and voting methods applied due to the misuse of powers as they relate to "Emergencies". In every single case, these Liberal run states were not transparent in their counting as they placed newspaper over the windows to prevent people from seeing them! Furthermore, distance requirements kept inspectors from being able to do their jobs! Never before in history has the Government ever been allowed to solicit ballots as they did under COVID! Half the country sued and the Supreme Court didn't have the "luxury" of not doing their jobs! So they got a black eye! They should wear it with pride because if you ask me, someone wasn't doing their jobs! Had the SCOTUS done their jobs and ruled in a timely fashion NONE of this would have EVER been an issue! 

Of course next time when the shoe is on the other foot, and Democrats find something irregular and it's their 50% of the country who feels cheated by the SCOTUS not giving them their day in court you guys can return the favor, but you have already said in George Bush style they should be "Mowed down with hot lead" 

I would like you to show me the "tyranny" that inspired the attempted coup you seem so ok with. To try getting more people to vote is the OPPOSIT of tyranny. And if you are of the belief that Joe Biden is a tyrant, I would remind you he hadn't even assumed office yet when the insurretion happened. So show me the tyranny please.

But I am beyond this whole partisan BS now PowerStroker...

Trump pardoned Blago and Kwami! Both corrupt Democrats!

WHY?