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SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

What are your thoughts on wearing a cloth mask?

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

Mr.Trumpdt is the elected commander-in-Chief.

He has access & authority over DARPA. And DARPA knows "everything"...

It's time to stop the charade, get the world turning once again & move on from this bollox.

Since we're never going to know the "truth" ourselves, let's just leave this crap behind :) !!!

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

You make a good point Rastus, but we are the cheerleaders for our respective nations which just happen to be longtime allies.

But I agree at times it gets to be a little bit much to get the head around at times - I think that is just unique to our generation of instant media and global communications at the speed of light.

Getting back on topic, regardless what the current or next crisis is the freedom of people to wear or not wear a mask is up to the individual. The freedom to conduct business with people who know the risk but still wish to continue doing business should not be infringed. The freedom of people to gather should not be infringed.

If people feel wearing a cloth mask protects them, then they should wear one and be protected! But they might want to don a face mask too! While they are at it they could also don a full on hazmat suit or a giant bubble to roll around in! But that won't mean that everyone will have to! That is their choice! They could also just stay at home and never go out and have stuff just delivered to them if they got lots of money or are retired. It's their choice, just like the choice not to!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

A cloth mask does very little to protect someone from getting covid, however it is very effective in preventing the spread of the droplets which spread covid, and thus can prevent someone who has covid from spreading it to others. This is backed by actual science. And while I can't at this time support a law that requires people to wear them in public, I do support companies that require their customers wear them before entering their establishment. I also have no problem with TEMPORARY executive orders by governors requiring them under penalty of a fines in specific types of businesses where evidence suggests hot spots would likely emerge otherwise, or wherever a vulnerable population is present ie: nursing homes.

Lately I have been picking up take out from my local Chinese restaurant on the weekends. Whenever I enter, I wear a cloth mask until I leave. This isn't to protect me, it's to protect them from the possibility that I may be an asymptomatic carrier, and a sign of respect. There is no sign on the door telling me that I have to, but as a responsible citizen, I choose to.

One of the larger chains of hardware stores around here, Menards, won't let people enter the store unless they are wearing a cloth mask. I have no problem with it, and actually feel better about going in there.

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

A thorough investigation via DARPA is needed into how this happened in the first-place !

We shouldn't have to wear anything over our faces !!! That's why your tax dollars go into the trillions to fund DARPA & the DoD, to stop these things from ever happening...

Unless like 9/11, it is a staged "false-flag" event of course.

No one anywhere should have to resort to these measures & extremes to live a normal life. This only proves that our Democracy, government, & our systems in place have failed us.

Clean out the swamp !

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

I'm not so sure on this one Rastus. While it is possible that this is a man made and intentionally inflected problem, it is also possible, and I would argue, more likely, that this is just another in a very long line of pandemics that naturally plague our species periodically. I say this is likely the case this time, because one constant with all conspiracy theories is that people with power, do horrible things to maintain or increase their power while insulating themselves from the negative results of their actions... With this virus though, it kills indiscriminately. It is super contagious and kills about 2-3% of the people who get it which is significantly higher than we are used to seeing. These results are true of how it affects all of humanity, not just the people on the receiving end of the "conspiracy." Borris Johnson almost died from it for example. I would think that if there actually were a conspiracy here, it would have been carefully designed never to affect someone like him - with power.

This is not to say that horrible people aren't seizing on the opportunity to use this naturally occurring problem to their advantage though, which is exactly what is happening. It is also exposing just how incompetent government can be when it is comprised of people who don't believe in government, or science for that matter. This virus began on the other side of the world, but a failure of leadership made the United States the epicenter of it. As horrible as Trump is, I highly doubt he was intentionally this incompetent or reckless just so he could maintain the hope that Obama would be stricken with it. No conspiracy is that stupid, not even for him.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

PowerStroker wrote:
A cloth mask does very little to protect someone from getting covid, however it is very effective in preventing the spread of the droplets which spread covid, and thus can prevent someone who has covid from spreading it to others. This is backed by actual science. And while I can't at this time support a law that requires people to wear them in public, I do support companies that require their customers wear them before entering their establishment. I also have no problem with TEMPORARY executive orders by governors requiring them under penalty of a fines in specific types of businesses where evidence suggests hot spots would likely emerge otherwise, or wherever a vulnerable population is present ie: nursing homes.

Lately I have been picking up take out from my local Chinese restaurant on the weekends. Whenever I enter, I wear a cloth mask until I leave. This isn't to protect me, it's to protect them from the possibility that I may be an asymptomatic carrier, and a sign of respect. There is no sign on the door telling me that I have to, but as a responsible citizen, I choose to.

One of the larger chains of hardware stores around here, Menards, won't let people enter the store unless they are wearing a cloth mask. I have no problem with it, and actually feel better about going in there.

You are aware that the CDC said just yesterday that contact transmission like touching railings and such is now not considered to be a probable vector!?

So this "respect" you talk of is really only your ignorance and self serving interest to see other people do as they are told, like you, that allows you to scrap your freedoms and don a mask like some bitch living in Saudi Arabia... Cool, that's all you had to say brah!

Eating at a Chinese restaurant? All while donning a mask to pick it up!? You must look like the biggest fuckstick in your village PowerStroker! lol

If a store requires me to wear a mask I will simply get in my car and go to a store that wants my business. I hope that all the businesses getting their rocks off trying to act PC have their asses sued off in court!

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

No one is telling people they can't wear masks, the same should be the case for people who do not want to wear them.

It is ridiculous the nonsense that the left comes up with to torture people needlessly.

People see this, and the ones who simply don a mask to appease the donkeys will be the same ones in the booth come November getting even by voting for Trump!

It really is pathetic how the Democrats can not see this, they didn't see it in 2016 either!

Also been hearing that Obama and his peeps might be in some trouble for their election spying... Oh how I hope they do catch them!

Democrats wearing a mask is a good thing, honestly... who can stand to look at most of them?

As if the lockdowns weren't enough, now they want to push this mask thing... I have had enough!

But you are entitled to your opinion PowerStroker, even if I tease and make fun of you I still want you to have the right to look and act like a jackass!

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

Yo,

There still remains way-too-many unknowns about this flu thingy, like its real origins, & even its real make-up.

We've been fed a whole lot of disinformation about the whole matter imo.

I'm sure that someone somewhere in a high powered position is laughing their head-off at the way folks are reacting to, & obeying stupid rules, without even questioning anything, or searching out the truth.

My $00:02 :)

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SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

I agree, something is not right! If we have so many cases of COVID-19 then why are they paying 1000's of young kids to contract the virus so it can be studied?

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/young-people-volunteering-catch-covid19-medical-research-potential-vaccine-181609345.html

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

Holy shyte !!!

Now if that isn't taking advantage of our naive youth, then nothing is...

So now we have the National Guard & Police bullying people for going outside for fresh air, & even military here in Oz being injected with vaccines, (& all unbeknownst to these service-people )...

So why isn't there a new stupid rule or law protecting our youth from being a guinea-pig ?....

Confusedt ?...

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

LOL !

And this is real chicken too...

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SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Seems like they are really trying to drive home this mask wearing nonsense, mostly it's the Democrats who want to strip people of their right to choose.

But now in a reversal I am reading about some Southern States demanding that customers take off their face masks - especially party stores in salty parts of town because they want to be able to identify a potential robber or thief! It make sense too, but I don't agree with it because it takes away someone else's right to wear one, even if I am of the camp that does not agree that cloth face masks help. If it's a placebo for some, let them have it! If it's nonsense to others they should have the right to deny wearing one. Simple as that!

I was in Krogers the other day and seen several people wearing bandana's like the old Western bank robbers back in the day! I kind of giggled and thought to myself what if these people would have been wearing them six months ago? They would have had the cops called on them for looking like they were about to rob the store! And that isn't even a joke either!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

"The historical comparisons are breathtaking. More Americans have died of the coronavirus in the last 12 weeks than died in the Vietnam and Korean wars combined and nearly twice as many as died of battle wounds during World War I. The death toll has nearly matched the number of people killed by the initial blasts of the worlds first atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. In terms of American deaths, it is the equivalent of 22 Iraq wars, 33 Sept. 11 attacks, 41 Afghanistan wars, 42 Pearl Harbors or 25,000 Benghazis."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-tweets-golfs-makes-no-121146960.html

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

In 1999 the average amount of deaths in the US per day was 7,000.... Do the math...

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/TABLE14_99.pdf

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

I'm sure that average still holds, this is in ADDITION to that.

25000 Benghazis, geez. I wonder if there will be an investigation 25000 times bigger than the one Hillary had to endure.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Sorry but you are wrong, it's not in addition to that PowerStroker! In fact they won't even release the official numbers!

But you are right about one thing, there will be an investigation 25,000 times bigger than Hillary's Benghazi, but it will be CHINA who is investigated this time around... we can only hope that it leads back to Obama or Hillary!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Why would you hope that it leads back to Obama or Hillary?

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

I guess maybe because if you guys would have been hard on them, like I am on Trump sometimes, then maybe we wouldn't have had to play the Trump card!?

I just feel like they were really out of control and lost touch with their base - especially Obama! You can't deny he went from upside down on his Chicago home to riches in just 8 short years! You say it is from book sales, but that isn't cutting it.. the bottom line is he got rich off serving as President and everything he does now to get money is from the influence that position afforded him. There is just something that does not sit right with me when a politician becomes rich from their tenure in office. I suppose it's the way of it and it's not the main reason that I have a strong disliking for Obama and his squad.. there are many other ideological differences I had with his methods and racist behavior that have been posted over the eight years of his tenure.

I really felt Obama was one of the biggest racist that I have ever seen and he instigated a whole lot of riots and mass shootings under his tenure. Seemed like one every other month and he would just fan the flames.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

PowerStroker wrote:
Why would you hope that it leads back to Obama or Hillary?

And I also really feel that both Obama, Hillary and the upper crust Democrats are working with China to engineer this crisis with the Wuhan COVID-19 so that it would disrupt the election. We even have Kamila Harris trying to submit a bill making it considered xenophobic to label the COVID-19 the Wuhan virus... Seems like she is running interference for the Communist Chinese party! I mean what is that BS!?

Something not right about all this and with one conspiracy investigation followed by another and the hoax impeachment that was forever acquitted then to have this!?

This is really bad form PowerStroker! Will it take the United States becoming a third world country for you to finally admit your party gives up too much to other nations that will reciprocate and are in fact just trying to overthrow the USA? Is that what you and the Democrats stand for PowerStroker?

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

2 things:

1. Trump and his entire family have been grifting and enriching themselves off the office he holds. That he was already rich before they started doing so doesn't change that fact.

2. The Democratic party of the United States has not engaged in any conspiracy with China to cause a global pandemic to influence the election or for any other reason.

Bad things can happen that aren't part of a giant liberal conspiracy of evil... The pandemic and your missing pot are examples.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

PowerStroker wrote:
The pandemic and your missing pot are examples.

Oh that's a low blow... And it's bad enough I won't hear the end of it here as well...

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

I did and everyone laughed at me. I put a full bandana over my face and top of head, hat to hold it on. Then went in the store going "my eyes! My eyes! I can't see!!!

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Six months ago anyone wearing a bandana covering their face would have had the police called on them if they went walking thru a store like that!

Just think about that!

And it's real funny how these face coverings seem to play right into the riots where face coverings would previously have helped identify the people with bad intentions! But now since everyone is wearing a mask it's very hard to spot them.

It's not a coincidence.

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

No it's not a coincidence. Neither is the beer virus.

Black face reopens the day AFTER the Repub primaries. That's not a coincidence.

Everything shut down = NO Trump rallies. Trump draws 25000 min, plus outside every rally. 20% are Dems. That scares the shit out of the Dems cause they are crossing to Rep. That's not a coincidence either.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Trump has had to play a very difficult hand of poker thru this running up to reelection.

Democrats knew that Biden really blew it by telling a black man that he wasn't black if he didn't vote Democrat. Immediately following that gaff the Democrats went into damage control with these engineered riots and looting.

It's really quite pathetic.

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
Trump has had to play a very difficult hand of poker thru this running up to reelection.
Democrats knew that Biden really blew it by telling a black man that he wasn't black if he didn't vote Democrat. Immediately following that gaff the Democrats went into damage control with these engineered riots and looting.
It's really quite pathetic.

I don't know about you, but between the Golf & Poker, when is Mr.Tumpdt actually running-the-country ?...

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

He's been running it alright!

Running it right up the asses of all the nations and people that been taking advantage of us for far too long!

Trump owns the most of the Golf courses he plays on, can't say the same for many other Presidents before him, especially Owebama.

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
He's been running it alright!
Running it right up the asses of all the nations and people that been taking advantage of us for far too long!
Trump owns the most of the Golf courses he plays on, can't say the same for many other Presidents before him, especially Owebama.

Golf is a great sport.

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

Rastus wrote:
SELLC wrote:
Trump has had to play a very difficult hand of poker thru this running up to reelection.

It's really quite pathetic.

And he not allowed to have his rallys because of the "dempanic" the lockdown. His crowds, the fact 20% are dems scares the shit outta the dnc.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

These Democrats and their pathetic power-grab attempts...

Now they want to make masks mandatory! It's really quite pathetic!

China has always worn masks, they arrogantly suggested everyone in America should just wear a damn mask! Now the Democrats are having to prove themselves to communist China as they attempt to mask America! This is not China and Republicans do not pander to the whims of the Chinese! You Democrats aught to be ashamed of yourselves!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

I wear a cloth mask when I enter a business. It's not because I'm pandering to China, it's because I could very well be an asymptomatic carrier and don't want to spread it.

Again, I refer you to your missing pot as another example of things that aren't liberal conspiracies.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

The missing pot has two sides to the coin PowerStroker!

1st - There was the suspicion - the not knowing... this lead to some logical hypothesis much like what plays out every day in the media where we are looking for answers!

2nd - Unlike many unknowns, we actually got to the bottom of the issue and someone was left feeling unfairly accused of something they didn't do! Something I wanted to believe didn't happen either! It was a shocking turn of events that seen me have to give out quite a few rare "apologies". That is more than I can say for any of the shenanigans I see on the news every day!

In regards to a cloth mask, the science says that the virus is much smaller than that of an N95 masks filter! So there is no REASONABLE expecation of safty by wearing one if you come in contact with the airborne virus. NONE!

So it is no longer about safty, it is about compliance.

These are the facts based on the science. They are irrefutable, although you are welcome to try.

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

The people of the world deserve better than this bollox.

PowerStroker once stated that the US-of-A's main issues aren't Liberal or Conservative based, he suggests that the issues are people based...And I agree, since I can clearly see the brainwashing & tactics going-on.

People have been fed such a steady diet of lies & bollox, that we believe them as truth.

Demand the truth & commence action !!! Clean out the swamp !

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
In regards to a cloth mask, the science says that the virus is much smaller than that of an N95 masks filter! So there is no REASONABLE expecation of safty by wearing one if you come in contact with the airborne virus. NONE!
So it is no longer about safty, it is about compliance.
These are the facts based on the science. They are irrefutable, although you are welcome to try.

Yes the virus itself is very much smaller than what mask can be expected to filter. HOWEVER, the virus is mostly spread in droplets that even a cheap cloth mask can catch.

If you care so much about science, then I suggest you listen more closely to actual scientists like Dr. Fauci.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Democrats trying to "slow" the spread of a virus with their symbolic cloth masks

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Why don't you take the family on a Florida beach vacation, you deserve it.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

You know PowerStroker, I would!

And I guess I'll be the next Chuck Wollary since I will be going on a two week beach vacation very soon here, providing our communist Governor does not shut down the state!

Yes, I know... When I catch it, or when someone in the family catches it then they will say it's because I didn't want to wear a mask, but many people - doctors included, who wear a mask and are more OCD than I could ever dream of are catching it! Even with N95 masks! The only REAL way to prevent it would be a full on Hazmat suit with a bubble house with purified air and a level of control of the surrounding atmospere that would allow you to pretty much live on Mars!

Hey, maybe that is what we are training for?

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

SELLC wrote:
These Democrats and their pathetic power-grab attempts...
Now they want to make masks mandatory! It's really quite pathetic!
China has always worn masks, they arrogantly suggested everyone in America should just wear a damn mask! Now the Democrats are having to prove themselves to communist China as they attempt to mask America! This is not China and Republicans do not pander to the whims of the Chinese! You Democrats aught to be ashamed of yourselves!

China coined the phrase "Wear a damn mask"

Everyone just needs to know that when they hear people say it.

Chris Wallace recently said that on a Fox News interview and I think it's clear what we a dealing with here.