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Should people be forced to wear cloth face masks? [3 vote(s)]

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What are your thoughts on wearing a cloth mask?


There are a lot of different thoughts on wearing a mask now days to combat a virus and while the gesture to try and protect others is a good one, at some point you have to question the science...

Since they are saving N-95 Masks for people in the medical field, until such time as enough can be made for everyone, which may not even be possible for quite some time, it's highly foolish to think that a cloth covering is going to prevent the spread of the COVID-19! LOGIC dictates that if people who work in the medical field are wearing N-95 masks, in addition to full face shields that protect the eyes and people in labs wearing full on HAZMAT suits then the idea that your cloth face covering is going to somehow prevent the spread of something as small as a virus is completely misguided and is only being used as a wedge issue to impose the will of others on an individual who has every right to wear or not wear a mask!

My thoughts on this are simple, outside of a HAZMAT suit, or near medical grade N-95 mask, face shield, garb and rubber gloves like are worn by Doctors and Hospital staff, the advantages of wearing a cloth face mask to protect against a virus is preposterous! There are a lot of studies that suggest a cloth face mask is effective, most of these studies hail from China or the liberal leftist, all of whom are making money by manufacturing them and selling them. To them it matters not if the face mask works, rather that you are buying one and wearing it as a show of respect. Many would say screw your feelings and you damn well better respect the fact that they need as much of the oxygen in the air as possible to keep the mind alert and the blood oxygenated! Wearing a restrictive face covering that will result in breathing exhaled air is not something that is good for people! In fact over time it can lead to loss of brain cells and we all know Democrats don't have many left to spare! All kidding and partisanship aside, it is a FACT that you will inhale a vast amount of exhaled air whenever you are wearing a face covering! That is an indisputable FACT. It is also a fact that germs, specifically a virus - cannot be contained with a simple cloth covering. Sure, droplets could be prevented from expelling from your mouth, but as you touch and adjust your mask (which you will) these droplets will just be spread by your hands, all the while the REAL virus passes freely thru the cloth covering! 

So I ask you, does it make sense to buy and wear a cloth covering and restrict your breathing, in addition to breathing in harmful carbon dioxide? Carbon dioxide is what the human body exhales and if you are wearing a mask you are breathing in a fair amount of carbon dioxide every time you exhale and inhale. Since it is also a proven fact that a virus is so small that it can freely pass thru a cloth face mask it becomes quite clear that the liberal stigma of not wearing a mask is just like any other liberal cause where a person is expected to sacrifice themselves to show respect... That is about all it boils down to!

If your cloth mask is so protective then there should be no reason to expect anyone else to wear one, since if you are wearing one it must be good enough, right? Well at least for you! 

This is a free country and people have a right to either wear, or not wear a mask. 



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Mr.Trumpdt is the elected commander-in-Chief.

He has access & authority over DARPA. And DARPA knows "everything"...

It's time to stop the charade, get the world turning once again & move on from this bollox.

Since we're never going to know the "truth" ourselves, let's just leave this crap behind :) !!!

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You make a good point Rastus, but we are the cheerleaders for our respective nations which just happen to be longtime allies. 

But I agree at times it gets to be a little bit much to get the head around at times - I think that is just unique to our generation of instant media and global communications at the speed of light. 

Getting back on topic, regardless what the current or next crisis is the freedom of people to wear or not wear a mask is up to the individual. The freedom to conduct business with people who know the risk but still wish to continue doing business should not be infringed. The freedom of people to gather should not be infringed. 

If people feel wearing a cloth mask protects them, then they should wear one and be protected! But they might want to don a face mask too! While they are at it they could also don a full on hazmat suit or a giant bubble to roll around in! But that won't mean that everyone will have to! That is their choice! They could also just stay at home and never go out and have stuff just delivered to them if they got lots of money or are retired. It's their choice, just like the choice not to!



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A cloth mask does very little to protect someone from getting covid, however it is very effective in preventing the spread of the droplets which spread covid, and thus can prevent someone who has covid from spreading it to others. This is backed by actual science. And while I can't at this time support a law that requires people to wear them in public, I do support companies that require their customers wear them before entering their establishment. I also have no problem with TEMPORARY executive orders by governors requiring them under penalty of a fines in specific types of businesses where evidence suggests hot spots would likely emerge otherwise, or wherever a vulnerable population is present ie: nursing homes.

Lately I have been picking up take out from my local Chinese restaurant on the weekends. Whenever I enter, I wear a cloth mask until I leave. This isn't to protect me, it's to protect them from the possibility that I may be an asymptomatic carrier, and a sign of respect. There is no sign on the door telling me that I have to, but as a responsible citizen, I choose to.

One of the larger chains of hardware stores around here, Menards, won't let people enter the store unless they are wearing a cloth mask. I have no problem with it, and actually feel better about going in there.

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A thorough investigation via DARPA is needed into how this happened in the first-place !

We shouldn't have to wear anything over our faces !!! That's why your tax dollars go into the trillions to fund DARPA & the DoD, to stop these things from ever happening...

Unless like 9/11, it is a staged "false-flag" event of course.

No one anywhere should have to resort to these measures & extremes to live a normal life. This only proves that our Democracy, government, & our systems in place have failed us.

Clean out the swamp !

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I'm not so sure on this one Rastus. While it is possible that this is a man made and intentionally inflected problem, it is also possible, and I would argue, more likely, that this is just another in a very long line of pandemics that naturally plague our species periodically. I say this is likely the case this time, because one constant with all conspiracy theories is that people with power, do horrible things to maintain or increase their power while insulating themselves from the negative results of their actions... With this virus though, it kills indiscriminately. It is super contagious and kills about 2-3% of the people who get it which is significantly higher than we are used to seeing. These results are true of how it affects all of humanity, not just the people on the receiving end of the "conspiracy." Borris Johnson almost died from it for example. I would think that if there actually were a conspiracy here, it would have been carefully designed never to affect someone like him - with power.

This is not to say that horrible people aren't seizing on the opportunity to use this naturally occurring problem to their advantage though, which is exactly what is happening. It is also exposing just how incompetent government can be when it is comprised of people who don't believe in government, or science for that matter. This virus began on the other side of the world, but a failure of leadership made the United States the epicenter of it. As horrible as Trump is, I highly doubt he was intentionally this incompetent or reckless just so he could maintain the hope that Obama would be stricken with it. No conspiracy is that stupid, not even for him.



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PowerStroker wrote:

A cloth mask does very little to protect someone from getting covid, however it is very effective in preventing the spread of the droplets which spread covid, and thus can prevent someone who has covid from spreading it to others. This is backed by actual science. And while I can't at this time support a law that requires people to wear them in public, I do support companies that require their customers wear them before entering their establishment. I also have no problem with TEMPORARY executive orders by governors requiring them under penalty of a fines in specific types of businesses where evidence suggests hot spots would likely emerge otherwise, or wherever a vulnerable population is present ie: nursing homes.

Lately I have been picking up take out from my local Chinese restaurant on the weekends. Whenever I enter, I wear a cloth mask until I leave. This isn't to protect me, it's to protect them from the possibility that I may be an asymptomatic carrier, and a sign of respect. There is no sign on the door telling me that I have to, but as a responsible citizen, I choose to.

One of the larger chains of hardware stores around here, Menards, won't let people enter the store unless they are wearing a cloth mask. I have no problem with it, and actually feel better about going in there.


 

You are aware that the CDC said just yesterday that contact transmission like touching railings and such is now not considered to be a probable vector!?

So this "respect" you talk of is really only your ignorance and self serving interest to see other people do as they are told, like you, that allows you to scrap your freedoms and don a mask like some bitch living in Saudi Arabia... Cool, that's all you had to say brah!

Eating at a Chinese restaurant? All while donning a mask to pick it up!? You must look like the biggest fuckstick in your village PowerStroker! lol

If a store requires me to wear a mask I will simply get in my car and go to a store that wants my business. I hope that all the businesses getting their rocks off trying to act PC have their asses sued off in court!



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No one is telling people they can't wear masks, the same should be the case for people who do not want to wear them.

It is ridiculous the nonsense that the left comes up with to torture people needlessly. 

People see this, and the ones who simply don a mask to appease the donkeys will be the same ones in the booth come November getting even by voting for Trump!

It really is pathetic how the Democrats can not see this, they didn't see it in 2016 either! 

Also been hearing that Obama and his peeps might be in some trouble for their election spying... Oh how I hope they do catch them! 

Democrats wearing a mask is a good thing, honestly... who can stand to look at most of them? 

As if the lockdowns weren't enough, now they want to push this mask thing... I have had enough!

But you are entitled to your opinion PowerStroker, even if I tease and make fun of you I still want you to have the right to look and act like a jackass!



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Yo,

There still remains way-too-many unknowns about this flu thingy, like its real origins, & even its real make-up.

We've been fed a whole lot of disinformation about the whole matter imo.

I'm sure that someone somewhere in a high powered position is laughing their head-off at the way folks are reacting to, & obeying stupid rules, without even questioning anything, or searching out the truth.

My $00:02 :)

 

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I agree, something is not right! If we have so many cases of COVID-19 then why are they paying 1000's of young kids to contract the virus so it can be studied?

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/young-people-volunteering-catch-covid19-medical-research-potential-vaccine-181609345.html



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Holy shyte !!!

Now if that isn't taking advantage of our naive youth, then nothing is...

So now we have the National Guard & Police bullying people for going outside for fresh air, & even military here in Oz being injected with vaccines, (& all unbeknownst to these service-people )...

So why isn't there a new stupid rule or law protecting our youth from being a guinea-pig ?....

Confusedt ?...

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LOL !

And this is real chicken too...

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Seems like they are really trying to drive home this mask wearing nonsense, mostly it's the Democrats who want to strip people of their right to choose.

But now in a reversal I am reading about some Southern States demanding that customers take off their face masks - especially party stores in salty parts of town because they want to be able to identify a potential robber or thief! It make sense too, but I don't agree with it because it takes away someone else's right to wear one, even if I am of the camp that does not agree that cloth face masks help. If it's a placebo for some, let them have it! If it's nonsense to others they should have the right to deny wearing one. Simple as that!

I was in Krogers the other day and seen several people wearing bandana's like the old Western bank robbers back in the day! I kind of giggled and thought to myself what if these people would have been wearing them six months ago? They would have had the cops called on them for looking like they were about to rob the store! And that isn't even a joke either!



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"The historical comparisons are breathtaking. More Americans have died of the coronavirus in the last 12 weeks than died in the Vietnam and Korean wars combined and nearly twice as many as died of battle wounds during World War I. The death toll has nearly matched the number of people killed by the initial blasts of the worlds first atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. In terms of American deaths, it is the equivalent of 22 Iraq wars, 33 Sept. 11 attacks, 41 Afghanistan wars, 42 Pearl Harbors or 25,000 Benghazis."

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-tweets-golfs-makes-no-121146960.html



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In 1999 the average amount of deaths in the US per day was 7,000.... Do the math...

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/TABLE14_99.pdf



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I'm sure that average still holds, this is in ADDITION to that.

25000 Benghazis, geez. I wonder if there will be an investigation 25000 times bigger than the one Hillary had to endure.

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Sorry but you are wrong, it's not in addition to that PowerStroker! In fact they won't even release the official numbers!

But you are right about one thing, there will be an investigation 25,000 times bigger than Hillary's Benghazi, but it will be CHINA who is investigated this time around... we can only hope that it leads back to Obama or Hillary!



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Why would you hope that it leads back to Obama or Hillary?

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I guess maybe because if you guys would have been hard on them, like I am on Trump sometimes, then maybe we wouldn't have had to play the Trump card!?

I just feel like they were really out of control and lost touch with their base - especially Obama! You can't deny he went from upside down on his Chicago home to riches in just 8 short years! You say it is from book sales, but that isn't cutting it.. the bottom line is he got rich off serving as President and everything he does now to get money is from the influence that position afforded him. There is just something that does not sit right with me when a politician becomes rich from their tenure in office. I suppose it's the way of it and it's not the main reason that I have a strong disliking for Obama and his squad.. there are many other ideological differences I had with his methods and racist behavior that have been posted over the eight years of his tenure.

I really felt Obama was one of the biggest racist that I have ever seen and he instigated a whole lot of riots and mass shootings under his tenure. Seemed like one every other month and he would just fan the flames. 



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PowerStroker wrote:

Why would you hope that it leads back to Obama or Hillary?


 

And I also really feel that both Obama, Hillary and the upper crust Democrats are working with China to engineer this crisis with the Wuhan COVID-19 so that it would disrupt the election. We even have Kamila Harris trying to submit a bill making it considered xenophobic to label the COVID-19 the Wuhan virus... Seems like she is running interference for the Communist Chinese party! I mean what is that BS!?

Something not right about all this and with one conspiracy investigation followed by another and the hoax impeachment that was forever acquitted then to have this!? 

This is really bad form PowerStroker! Will it take the United States becoming a third world country for you to finally admit your party gives up too much to other nations that will reciprocate and are in fact just trying to overthrow the USA? Is that what you and the Democrats stand for PowerStroker?



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2 things:

1. Trump and his entire family have been grifting and enriching themselves off the office he holds. That he was already rich before they started doing so doesn't change that fact.

2. The Democratic party of the United States has not engaged in any conspiracy with China to cause a global pandemic to influence the election or for any other reason.

Bad things can happen that aren't part of a giant liberal conspiracy of evil... The pandemic and your missing pot are examples.

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PowerStroker wrote:

 The pandemic and your missing pot are examples.


 

Oh that's a low blow... And it's bad enough I won't hear the end of it here as well...



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