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Is less emissions causing bigger storms and desasters? [3 vote(s)]

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Is less emissions during COVID-19 causing worse climate and bigger storms?


With the world shut down for almost two months now many are using this time to claim that the reduction in emissions is yielding better climate, but is that true? It sure does not seem so!

Take for example the most recent flood in Michigan that left one town in almost nine feet of water!

Take for example the massive typhoon that hit India

Take for example the accelerated hurricane season that has started off unusually early down in Florida

Then there is my own personal experiences here in Michigan that saw some of the most thunderstorms in recent memory and rain like we have never seen.

So I guess the question is are we better off as a result of decreased emissions? Our lack of burning and combusting the earths volatile chemicals may manifest more severe weather patterns as the earth has to displace these things itself.

Then there is the fact that Mt. St. Hellen has been getting pretty active as of late, and we all know what kind of carbon footprint a volcano leaves! If we don't burn the fuel and gas, mother nature will!

And think about all the roads out west and the recent earthquake where it showed some roads with cracks, could these massive road networks actually be what is helping to hold California from sliding off into the ocean?

Crazy? No more crazy than the people who want to make a case out of global warming for the sole purpose of enriching themselves.. Imagine 1000's of little midget pencil neck Dr. Fauci's running around trying to cash in on a pandemic, then you can somewhat imagine what all these other scientist are doing every day as they collaborate with the rich and powerful to devise a scheme to increase their wealth and power.  



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LOL !

Less emissions world-wide no doubt has helped clean the air a little ( or a lot rather ), but mother-nature is a female, & so typically, we'll never be able to figure her out, or her mood-swings.

Civilizations in the long distant past, (such as the Lemurian's & Atlantean's for example) have all been swept-away into myth over-night.

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Read that a pretty big hurricane of the sorts was about to hit Australia a few days back! Did this system hit anywhere near you Rastus? I'd say it's pretty late in the season for you guys to be getting such weather? No?



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Hey SELLC,

The storm was unusual more so because of how it managed to travel so far south, & effect Perth ( Southern Western Australia ) than being this time of year. It would be the same as say Frisco or even Seattle ( Washington State ) in the US-of-A being affected by a hurricane.

That said, Australia is pretty flat along the West, so if a storm decides to travel along the coast to Perth, rather than dissipate inland like normal, it's bad luck ! Perth is actually quite warm all year imo, with say the winter mean average daytime temperature hovering around the 50-degree range in your scale, quite often settling at an average summer temperature of 100-degrees in your scale.

Here's the local report to read since you're interested :)

www.weatherzone.com.au/news/storm-hits-perth-as-ex-tropical-cyclone-mangga-delivers-wild-weather-across-wa-power-cut-to-thousands/531530

 

I've been awaiting a report from you about Michigan, since we heard here that some parts of the state were flooded severely, as there was major concern about your nuke-plants having a Fukushima-like catastrophe happen !!! But I guess that all-is-well, & that's good news :) !



-- Edited by Rastus on Monday 25th of May 2020 01:01:34 AM

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We had a few damns bust open and flood a central town but that was way North West of Fermi, which I think they are in the process of closing anyway. 

Many people saying the floods could have been prevented if they were allowed to reinforce the damns like they wanted, however the Democrat AG prevented such action because of some endangered muscles... or so they say. I believe it because that area of the state is traditionally a Red voting district and there is a lot of politically motivated bias and vindictiveness that occurs in this state! 

Today was a beautiful day, took the Vette out for a little top down cruise... it was rather nice but shocked at how dead everything was on such a major holiday weekend! I can't speak with 100% certainty about weather the COVID-19 lockdown is causing worse or better weather but I can assure you the COVID-19 lockdowns are KILLING business owners and regular people alike as we all just sit at home because outside of fast food and grocery stores just about everything else is closed! It's not even a matter of IF you want to go out, the question becomes WHERE would you go? Everything shut down, even the courts, for civil matters anyway. Even the Secretary of State is closed (Like the DMV or Department of Motor Vehicles) so you can't even plate a vehicle or boat right now! You couldn't even register to vote or renew your license in some instances! Even the Dentist offices have all been closed and are still closed! It really is quite insane! Sometimes I have to wait for WEEKS to get parts, I have had a standing order for some Ford parts since last month with the local dealer! 

To make things worse, our drunk with power Democrat - black leather jacket wearing Governor extended the stay at home order for the 5th time until June 12th! One has to wonder if it will be extended once again as it seems to get extended every two weeks! It's really insanity over here right now Rastus! I'd have to imagine they will try to extend the lock down until the end of July because that is when the Federal $600 per week add on for unemployment ends - unless you get called back to work. As you know automobile repair has been deemed essential so I have been open this entire time, very slow for almost two months but it has really picked up with people having thought the lockdown was going to end on the 25th of May. Good thing too as it has helped to keep my mind off all this craziness. 



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Looking at a couple month window in time only shows changes in weather, not overall climate change. For climate change to be observed you must look at a longer period of time.

Essentially, the dams would have failed with or without the pandemic. And in the case of the dams, it is more a case of under-funding the maintenance of infrastructure in your state. But it's not a problem specific to Michigan. Minnesota had a very large bridge collapse a few years back for the same reason.

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I'm inclined to agree...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5L5gHx6Kg4

And all this so Michigan AG Nasser could save muscles! Do you think muscles were worth this PowerStroker?

 



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Wow !!!

How much money is poured into the defense budget a year did you say ?....

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As a little island with your nose way far up China's ass until recently, I'd say you should worry very little about our defense budget and hope it only increases!



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No, I don't think the muscles were worth it. But I'm not so sure it's the AG's fault. I understand the entirety of Michigan's dam inspection team is 2 people and a total budget of $400k. I'd say it's a legislative and resource allocation problem more than anything else, just like the bridge deal here was.

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Dude, our AG is way out of line the way she has spoken of the President! Her homosexuality aside, the way she sucked face with her S.O. when she won, and her mouth running about the President... I am not shocked, let me just tell you that!

I should also mention, PowerStroker, that the Secretary of State here that does our vehicle and voter registrations, along with ID's and all that stuff is a real mess! Before Big Gretch and this AG took over you could make an appointment online and it would text you 15 minutes before your number called.. Big Gretch got rid of that system and now it's a standard five hour wait for just about anything you need to get done, unless you make an appointment which you must do almost a MONTH out! Does you no good when you buy a new car or boat and need it transferred that day! Right now the Secretary of State is closed, will stay that way until the 12th since Gretchen extended the stay at home order here for the 5th time! I got a feeling she is going to try and extend it out all the way until the end of July.

People are really getting fed up with this lockdown BS... Most people are just hanging on as nothing but fast food, gas stations, auto repairs and grocery stores are open! Even the Dentist offices are closed! This is a real fine mess we have here PowerStroker and I got a feeling that once everything does finally open up many places will have gone under and the whipsaw from the past three or four months will lash us like the inner bands of a CAT5 hurricane! 

You can't deny it, this ain't good! 



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Sounds like you have some grievances with your Gov and AG, and would like to blame them for a long history of inadequate infrastructure funding that long predates their time in service?

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You know PowerStroker, I took the time to explain that prior to the incoming Gretchen and Donkey-Crew that you could get in line by checking in online...

There are many other things that changed under the newly elected Gretchen Admin, who by the way tells people they shouldn't go up North while taking her family up there... Her hubby also tried to name drop big Gretch in a futile ploy to put their boat in the water!

Democrats... acting as dumb as they look most of the time.. biggrin



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I think it's better but it's not just the lower emissions. Look in the sky, different than a year ago. Normal contrails, no chemtrails.

We have had the first normal spring in I can't remember when.

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Con/Chem trails are just because less planes are flying, obviously.

But I think that humans help to regulate and spread out the volatile elements that would otherwise see massive weather and or tragic events.



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Chem trails are different. They are deliberately spread. Govt says "normal air traffic. We have watched jets fly south to north, take a right fly a bit another right, go north to south. turn and come back. Weather has changed, more like normal. Look at the pics.

This look like a contrail coming out the jet engine? 

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Look at those cool jet engines.

 

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Thats not a contrail and is not coming from the engines.

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Refreshments for the passengers?

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Hey lookie, twin engines, 6 chemtrails NOT contrails.

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Normal air traffic?

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Hey lookie, modern cropduster? 

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Yes, cloud seeding has been going on for quite some time now Shawnee, and I have no doubts there are probably many other things they put in the air depending on what is going on at any given moment. 

I don't discount the chemtrails and I have seen it myself. Condensation would dissipate much quicker. 



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I have seen chemtrails horizon to horizon and they don't dissipate like a contrail. Many don't get it. Contrails are jet engine exhaust and come out the engine. Chemtrails are not from out the engine, they are sprayed thru nozzles. Have you noticed the skys are free of chemtrails now? Trump vowed to stop it and he did. It's called "operation indigo skyfold" and dems don'e believe it exist. Go outside, find a chemtrail. Can't. Yes, cloud seeding but what else? Look at the pics, see clouds cept a few wisps? 

 

Here's another "normal air traffic shot"

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Bill Gates depopulation agenda? Dem will say that's a contrail, IT'S A FUCKING PROP PLANE. That's chemtrail.

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Here ya go libs, contrails from a jet engine right? It's a prop job, look at them.

 

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Many people have seen crop dusters... only in this case, we are the crops! furious



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That's right. But don't try to confuse dems with facts.

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These chemtrail's have an aluminum component in them, that's simply used to reflect the sunlight back into outer-space, to reduce "global warming"...

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And you think that is a good idea?



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And you think that is a good idea?


 

LOL ! It's not a matter of whether I think it's a good idea or not, Mr.Trumpdt "is" responsible for it :) !



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If you mean Trump is responsible for putting an end to it, you'd be correct.



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If you mean Trump is responsible for putting an end to it, you'd be correct.


 

No doubt Mr.Trumpdt will see this issue closed by the end of his tenure as POTUS, later this year, or even sooner maybe.



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Rastus wrote:
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And you think that is a good idea?


 

LOL ! It's not a matter of whether I think it's a good idea or not, Mr.Trumpdt "is" responsible for it :) !


 And he stopped it too. But it wasn't him that started it so I don't see how he was responsible, way before his admin, 1996. "operation indigo skyfold".

1996. It was during that year when the U.S. Air Force was first accused of using military aircraft to spray American citizens with mysterious substances, evidenced by the unusual contrail patterns left in the sky.

Alum is toxic. There is also strontium and barium and more.

Chemtrails contain a mix of toxic chemicals and poisonous compounds such as barium salts, aluminum oxide, strontium, mercury among many others, which eventually end up falling to Earth.  The chemtrail mix of toxins inevitably leaves its residues on farm fields and forests, lakes and ponds, and lawns and gardens.  How does one possibly stop the noxious chemicals from entering ones home and automobiles, office building, and shopping malls?  Whoever wants a toxic chemtrail brew dropped on them every other day?!

No matter what the stated reasons are given to those who fly the chemtrail jets, they are always told by their superiors that this ongoing and illegal atmosphere-altering program is being conducted in the interest of NATIONAL SECURITY.

"Geoengineering has proven unequivocally to be extremely detrimental to both human health and the greater planetary environment. Pilots are told to fly specific routes, while satellites control aerosol dispersal patterns.  The pilots make course corrections from time to time and perform landings and takeoffs.  Pilot navigation and maintenance crews are rotated constantly and only spend about 18 months at one given base, to keep pilots and their families from making too many friends, and ending up with loose lips.  They also rotate between day and night flights, one base for daytime flights, and one for the night.  Each base covers a 250-mile zone, and each fleet (squadron) of planes covers three states or an even larger swath of ocean.

https://aviationtravelwriter.com/2019/06/04/operation-indigo-skyfold/



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Read the "Geoengineering has proven unequivocally to be extremely detrimental to both human health and the greater planetary environment." part?

Thought the left was the guardians of the planet and the right the destroyers,,, yet with all the evidence you either don't believe or ignore like Powerstroker.

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If it's the left behind all of this, why didn't you speak up when you were in the Air Force?

Why doesn't Trump issue an immediate executive order to stop it?

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If it's the left behind all of this, why didn't you speak up when you were in the Air Force?

Why doesn't Trump issue an immediate executive order to stop it?


 Shit didn't happen until 1996. I was in during Nam.

I didn't say the left was behind it all, I said 1996,,, that was Jr Bush started Indigo Skyfold.

Reread what I said about the left claiming to be guardians of the universe. Don't spin it or put words in my mouth.



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PowerStroker wrote:

If it's the left behind all of this, why didn't you speak up when you were in the Air Force?

Why doesn't Trump issue an immediate executive order to stop it?


 Trump did stop it, look in the sky. He said he would and he did. Bush didn't. Obama didn't. Govt claimed "normal air traffic" Dems claim contrails. Contrails from prop jobs? Yeah right. We know the left is ignorant but how ignorant and naive.



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