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The nonpartisan issues of early mail in voting 2020


I'm really shocked that mail in voting for the masses hasn't been a bigger issue for Americans of all political persuasion. 

Why?

Because let's be honest, in todays world the news moves quick! I myself would rather have just ONE SINGLE DAY where everyone had to make up their minds based on ALL the information we had.

People who vote early might later find out critical information that could change their mind, and the idea that someone might try and change their vote is something I don't think is even possible! Heck, I don't even know of a way to verify my vote was collected and tabulated!

But somehow I think that voting early is a SERIOUS threat to our democracy. People need to all go into the polls on the same day and vote with the information they have! There is just too much that can happen between today and November 3rd!

I can't see why this is not a bipartisan concern. 

It's one of the reasons that I always cast my ballot in person on election day!



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On the other hand, if someone is prone to changing their mind based on a few news cycles, they probably aren't informed enough to vote in the first place.

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That is just an ignorant statement, things can change in the span of 24 hours. For example Biden could kick the bucket before the election! It could come out that Kamala has serious issues (something Republicans already know) and Trump could grab another pussy. You just never know!

Voting early is the wrong thing to do! You never make a decision without all the facts! 

But I am sure you just want your carton of cigaretts and bottle of booze for voting Democrat that Soros pays out.



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Oh, I have enough facts to make a decision at this point, don't you? Is there something that could happen in a 24 hour period that would make you vote for Biden instead of Trump, and if so, what?

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Nice try...

We already know you're a mole for the left.



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A mole is someone who pretends to be something they aren't. I openly admit that I'm a progressive. I prefer to think of myself as a representative of the left. Something the Supreme Court would be well served to have btw.

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SCOTUS...

A place where people like you and I are considered to be not worthy of representing ourselves without appointed council.

Okay pal...



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I would say the SCOTUS was well served by having Ginsburg articulate the liberal position on a given case. That's gone now, and we are far worse for it.

And no offense, but if you ever find yourself needing to argue a case before the Supreme Court, you really should hire a professional lawyer even if they didn't require it. Your own track record in pro-se litigation should be all the proof you need. Need I remind you about the Suburban Cadillac case.

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Powerstroker for supreme court!

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I'm not qualified, but thanks!

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I don't feel the same as PowerStroker, or Shawnee.

I think that RBG was a very poor Jurist in our nations highest court who clung to power until her last dying breath. She must have felt that her needs to feel powerful outweighed the peoples needs for a competent and clear thinking Judge. You cannot tell me that for the last two years that her illness did not get in the way of her performing her job, and I think a lot of people were covering for her.

The last dying wish that Democrats claimed she made, which was to wait until after the election to replace her is preposterous and just solidifies her bigotry and dreams of grandure that were always on full display in the courts. No doubt that this nation has suffered a great deal because of her lust for power and I personally am glad she is no longer holding our nations highest court hostage!

In my dealings with courts, both low and high - it's all the same! A bunch of people who think they are special when it comes to passing judgement. RBG's death should serve as a reminder to all these people that they are not above anything and they too will be judged one day!

My litigation in a lower District court were mared by the same kinds of "professionals" that you speak so highly of. It becomes a miscarage of Justice when the truth is no longer the deciding factor in a case, and that money and high profile attornies and massive law firms can deflect the truth and sidestep Justice! These people on the courts could NEVER be professionals, as the law is but a perception that differes from person to person - really no different than an opinion. 

Unlike YOU PowerStroker, I will take a case to the SCOTUS if it has enough importance to me. I was a few courts shy of such a case in years past. I don't have any respect for a Judge that is incapable of handing down a verdict based on the truth, as many will side with whoever has the largest budget and team of lawyers. Yet that is the way it works in the courts day in and day out. If being a con-artist is your idea of being a "professional" then I will leave that title for you and all the people who subscribe to such a credo.

We already know you're lacking any real character, you parade around giving mouth service to a party who could care less about you. You have no real beliefs outside what your party tells you to believe. When Trump veers from his stated beliefs (aka gets PC), I call him out on it. Never ONCE have I seen you call anyone in your party out, because you are a pathetic, partisan bigot. The lowest of the low.



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And no offense, but if you ever find yourself needing to argue a case before the Supreme Court, you really should hire a professional lawyer even if they didn't require it. Your own track record in pro-se litigation should be all the proof you need. Need I remind you about the Suburban Cadillac case.


 

Hey PowerStroker, funny that you were talking shit about my self-representation... Currently this issue right here polarizes everything I have been saying about how corrupt and bias the courts are when it comes to self represented individuals.

Supreme Court clerks see $400G bonuses from elite law firms

https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/supreme-court-clerks-regularly-offered-400k-bonuses

 

I realize this issue is worthy of it's own thread, but I wanted to smack you in the face with it first. If you read the article you can clearly see the bias that currently exist in the courts to where law firms are paying for influence. 

At $400,000 it's quite clear the entire Supreme Court is bought and paid for with kickbacks. Self represented individuals need not apply! These kickbacks do serious harm to our civil liberties since all the lower courts look up to the Supreme Court.

It's no longer about the law, truth or Justice! It's just about who you know and how much you paid friends of the courts! But I imagine it's been that way for a very long time now.

But wait, there is more:

Former clerks played an outsized role in Supreme Court arguments: In the past 15 years, about 75% of arguments before the court included at least one former clerk, according to the study. 

75%! That is shocking!



-- Edited by SELLC on Monday 21st of September 2020 03:11:06 PM

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I guess that doesn't really surprise me. I mean the amount is higher than I imagined, but to hire an elite lawyer who was selected by a SCOTUS judge to clerk for them would definitely command a premium. Especially by a firm that frequently has business before the high court. To gain insight in to how a certain judge thinks about cases could end up being far more valuable than the cost of said hiring bonus. This is just the free market at work.

If you don't like it, do you have any suggestions for a regulation you would propose? Whining about something without proposing a specific solution is just that, whining.

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Well that's just it PowerStroker, the Court laws, Judicial Cannons and other such laugnage is already on the books to protect pro-se litigants.

It's just the partisan hacks like yourself who fuck it all up... You know, people who cannot put politics to the side... people like yourself.

I am not whining, I am just stating facts. My case against Suburban was just a friendly reminder to them on our one year anniversary that I had not forgotten about them. 



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From The National File:

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced the arrests of four individuals, including one county commissioner, in a ballot harvesting scheme that resulted in 134 counts of voter fraud being leveled against them.
Gregg County Commissioner Shannon Brown, Marlena Jackson, Charlie Burns, and DeWayne Ward are all charged with being part of an organized vote harvesting scheme. This voter fraud allegedly took place during the 2018 Democrat Primary Election.
The four are charged with targeting young, able-bodied voters, harvesting their mail-in ballots to cast ballots fraudulently, claiming the voters were disabled. In most cases this was done without the voters knowledge or consent, authorities said.

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I think we are all seeing the nonpartisan issues of early mail in voting! Factor in the fake China Virus accelerating a process that has never been done in many states, and you have what we have here... 

A shit show!

Everyone should just show up and vote in person, with the small exception of Seniors and Deployed Military. This whole COVID created a situation where a lot of people moved back with their parents, many of whom are technically now ineligible to vote because they have changed addresses. The ballot harvesting and unfair forced voting with no privacy that a younger person (read that as under 35 because that's the reality) is very real. The harsh economic conditions will leave many dependents of households feeling obligated to vote a certian way as they live under the roof of their parents. 

My family votes at the polls, and while we all usually agree on who is best, when they are at that voting booth they are FREE to vote as they please in PRIVATE! I fear that is not what has happened in many Democrat districts! If people in bad areas feel unsafe at their polling locations than perhaps the idiots should quit voting Democrat! DUH!

 



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Just think how much money Soros and company saved this year in Liberal States and Cities with unsolisited mail in ballots! Think of all them buses and community ballot whippers that were not needed in the hood this year! All the extra savings afforded a little extra money for Soros to burn down a few cities and pay for all the people to protest for weeks and months on end! 

I am sure Democrats really feel good about how COVID helped them this election, until of course the high court says what everyone knows - that regardless of a pandemic, war or whatever may be that equal rights to ALL voters is the law of the land. I think we will also come to find that many people who voted probably don't live where their ballot was sent. Election integrety is VERY important regardless what chaos is playing out. The fact COVID was used to pervert the voting integrity in many liberal states and cities is beyond disgusting. The upmost scrutiny should be placed on these liberal cities and states that were trying "new" ways of voting. 



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What exactly do you think the Supreme Court is going to do that every other judge (including conservative ones) hasn't already done?

The Supreme Court is still a court, and as such, requires actual evidence of things. So far the Trump legal dream team hasn't been able to produce anything of consequence.

My guess is they will refuse to even hear the case.

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What evidence? It's a well known fact that people who filled out and retruned unsolisited ballots in the mail were granted more rights and protections than the people who voted in person. 

The 900 pound gorilla in the room that no Democrat want's to talk about is the fact that it was mainly in the swing states run by Democrats that decided to change election laws at the last minute. Most of the country was doing business as usual in terms of voting and that is why they were able to generate accurate calls on election night. The SCOTUS will take up the case because precedent needs to be set going foraward because almost half of America has lost faith in national elections. Many states are wondering how this could happen, but we know how it and why it happend. 

For Democrats it would just be a whole lot easier for Trump to concede, but he will not. Had Biden conceded the night of the election while Trump was ahead then none of this would be an issue, but the fix was in and that is why Hillary told Biden not to concede. It doesn't help that people like Soros were offering to buy votes from ex-cons (specifically black ones) in exchange for paying off their court fines. 

I think the SCOTUS will take up the issue, there are a lot of conservatives on the bench who were treated very poorly by Democrats during their confermation. They are well aware of the depths Democrats will sink and the lies that they will try and peddle as truth. 

 



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It's a well known fact that people who filled out and retruned unsolisited ballots in the mail were granted more rights and protections than the people who voted in person. 

 


 

The people who voted in person had the right to vote by mail, they just chose not to. 

To actively choose not to utilize a right, doesn't mean you don't have said right.

Trump doesn't need to concede, it would just be classier if he did. Either way, January 20 will usher in a new administration.

Any SCOTUS judge who makes a ruling based on how they were treated during their confirmation, isn't qualified to be a judge, and deserved any mistreatment they received.



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SELLC wrote:

It's a well known fact that people who filled out and retruned unsolisited ballots in the mail were granted more rights and protections than the people who voted in person. 

 


 

The people who voted in person had the right to vote by mail, they just chose not to. 

To actively choose not to utilize a right, doesn't mean you don't have said right.

Trump doesn't need to concede, it would just be classier if he did. Either way, January 20 will usher in a new administration.

Any SCOTUS judge who makes a ruling based on how they were treated during their confirmation, isn't qualified to be a judge, and deserved any mistreatment they received.


 

They chose not to because they did not trust the liberals who were driving the early mail in ballots. From US Post Office delays, on thru to swaths of traditionally Republican votes showing up in dumpsters and creeks all over it was clear that the conservative vote needed to be cast in person, regardless of the risks! No one was made aware that a mail in ballot would be allowed to count if late, or even if it was late you would be able to "cure" said ballot! It also goes without saying that no one was told that mail in ballots could be checked online either. Not even sure how that works considering in GA they claim no personally identifiable information could be ascertained from a ballot once it was removed from its protective envalope, which happened to be thrown away the moment they were removed. 

The whole process is shroud in mystery and that is NOT how you conduct a national election! Proper accounting and the ability to audit the vote must be transparent otherwise the integrity of a national election is held hostage by a few corrupt states and cities! This appears to be the Democrats "work around" when it comes to the electoral college. 



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Don't trust mail in. Go to the poll or stay home and don't vote. During the primary looked like we needed absentee so ordered one. The envelope had a huge bold black R on it. Why? Alert cheaters in usps to not deliver? Counters to toss or hide? Why weren't poll watchers  allowed to watch? Anyway we did get a open poll and I went, cancelled the absentee and voted in person primary and Nov 3rd

 

 

 



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Must have govt issued ID

Vote in person.

Purge voter rolls every election.

No DNC connected Soros or Dominion. HAND COUNT

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Don't you think if there were a liberal conspiracy to rig the election, we would have knocked off McConnell, Graham, and Collins at the same time?

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PowerStroker wrote:

Don't you think if there were a liberal conspiracy to rig the election, we would have knocked off McConnell, Graham, and Collins at the same time?


  Nope. 



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