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PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Danny Masterson 30 years to life sentence

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Well PowerStroker, it would seem to me that you feel the only people who should have the right to protest are left wing Democrats... You think it's totally fine to burn down an entire city in protest, but let some group of right wing people protest at the capital and they should be put down by way of lethal injection? I don't recall ANYONE being raped at J6 -- and the only person I recall that died was a female protester, who happened to be service member.

As far as this other guy Danny... I never heard of him before he got a 22 year sentance. I don't know the details of the case, but I'm sure the guy must be a liberal if you're crying for a reduced sentence.

My thoughs are things are getting WAY TOO partisan... and anymore the courts are just looking for fame in these cases! That is a really bad mix... We have Prosecutors and Judges that want to be a household name, or get into the history books.

I can't say that I know much about either case you mention, excpet it's almost gotten to the point where people who commit murder do less time than someone who gets convicted of rape decades later... the statutues of limitations only applies to politicians and the Government. Anymore a woman could have buyers remorse 20 years later and have someone convicted of rape and jailed for 22 years... but again, I don't know the details of that case as I have not been following it.

I'm still feeling under the weather...

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

I never said it's ok to burn down a city in protest. And Enrique didn't just protest, he was involved in a conspiracy to overthrow the freely elected government and install his chosen president by force, overturning the will of the majority of voters. If that's not raping an entire nation I don't know what is.

Danny Masterson played Hyde in That 70's Show, and was just sentenced to 30 years to life on his first rape conviction.

Brian Sicknik was the cop who died on Jan 6th, and there were others who died afterward.

This wasn't intended as a political post, and I don't know what Danny Masterson's politics are. I was just asking about sentencing for crimes and whether they are proportional.

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Monday 11th of September 2023 11:49:07 AM

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Back when the Floyd thing was in it's early stages you seemed to feel the riots and fires were justifiable... the post are here if you want to spend the time to look. At that time you seemed to indicate your support -- which I found VERY ODD given the fact it was your own city! But now you're saying otherwise. Whatever.

The issue that strikes me as the most concerning is why it took decades to charge this gut Danny Masterson... yes I have seen that 70's show, but I can't place which one he was. I think this issue should have been dealt with back then when it happened and I'm at a loss as to why decades later it's being tried in court! Nobody has the time to dig into all these cases, and even the ones ongoing with Trump! As someone who is no stranger to court procedure -- I can tell you it's the wild-wild West in the courtroom and unless you're very rich or famous the odds are hevily stacked in the prosecutor's (read that as "an arm of the court") favor.

I'm not saying that Brian Sicknik was any more or less of an acceptable loss than Ashli Babbitt -- I'm just saying there were a lot of "odd" things that happened. Enrique seemed to be the front man for the Proud Boys -- he seemed quite happy being the face of that movement... I'd imagine that is why they hit him the hardest... although a lot of these people could end up getting pardoned if a Republican gets in there. That in of itself should tell you that life seems to be little more than a game of Monopoly. Get out of jail free cards are handed out by all Presidents towards the end of their term. It's almost as if they know the job requires bending or breaking the law so they have provisions in there to allow Presidents the ability to set people free. No doubt they mix in some regular people so it doesn't look so bad -- but make no mistake, nothing in this life is absolute but death and taxes.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Protests were absolutely justified after a police officer from a notoriously bad department murdered an already cuffed man in the street. I never said violence or destruction was justified, and actually much of the damage was done by white supremacists that came to town to instigate things and make things worse. The "umbrella man" who smashed windows at the auto parts store was identified as a member of the Aryan Cowboys, a white supremacist group. Not that the local population didn't do any wrong because they did. But none of the protesters during the George Floyd event killed any police or were trying to rob you of your vote or subvert democracy, or capture and kill freely elected representatives of the people. The January 6th rioters are an entirely new level of evil. The George Floyd protesters were protesting for justice, but the January 6th seditionists were fighting against democracy - big difference.

Ashli Babbitt was the only traitor that received justice in real time.

Republicans were under attack too, why on earth would any future Republican president pardon any of these traitors?

Anyway we're getting off topic, I'm just curious whether you think Danny Masterson's sentence may have been excessive compared to far worse crimes that had lesser sentences?

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Tuesday 12th of September 2023 01:08:24 PM

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

It's very on-brand for you to say the fires were started by white supremacists because that's just the idiocy that you subscribe to... there is NO PROOF to these claims you make, but you try and parade them as fact -- when they ARE NOT!

Babbitt was murdered -- your boy Floyd died of a drug overdose after for Police officers sat on him because he flipped out while being arrested. They didn't shoot him, they just held him down and let the drugs he swallowed to conseal do their work... yet Floyd was a hero, and his family got MILLIONS. It was your states money, you are having to pay for it -- so it's really YOUR PROBLEM.

But this is getting off topic... but don't forget -- you took us down that path!

With regards to the sentencing -- I have searched Google online to find out why it took 20 years to prosecute Danny for this crime and have found NO explanation. But at least I now know which one of the cast Danny was on that 70's show... odd because his character was a laid back guy, guess he's a good actor.

I think we need to find out why this took 20 years to prosecute. If what he did was so bad that it merited 22 years in jail it shouldn't have taken 20 years to prosecute. Can we at least agree on that?

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Yes, we can agree on that. BTW Danny was sentenced to 30 years to life and won't be even eligible for parole for 25 years. It was Enrique who got 22 years for a worse crime, which is my point.

Babbitt wasn't murdered, she was killed in defense of democracy. She chose to enter a federal facility without authorization and engage in a violent insurrection to prevent freely elected representatives from doing their Constitutional duty. When the officer told her to stop and she didn't, she sealed her own fate. Floyd was already cuffed and in a prone position, he did not choose his fate.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

I don't recall seeing Enrique touch a single person in J6... Are you suggesting his protesting alone was enough to merit more than 22 years? You feel that being at a protest is worse than rape?

Babbitt was an unarmed woman shot dead without a single warning shot. We all seen the video, it was so loud in there that she probably would not have even heard any verbal commands from the coward who took his shot while in hiding. But you're right! She made her choices -- just like Floyd who resisted arrest! Floyd may have been cuffed but he was a big boy! He wouldn't stay in the back of the police car, and that alone was enough reason to subdue him! He didn't have to be out on the streets high and passing counterfit money -- these were choices he made! Just like the choice he made to resist arrest! You are aware that at one time he held a loaded gun to a pregnant womans belly while he robbed her -- right? I'm sorry but you just don't come back from something as low as that in my book PowerStroker! If that is the kind of person you wish to circle your wagons around -- so be it!

I didn't realize Danny got 30 years -- and that does seem like a stiff sentence considering all these girls were hanging out with him at his house doing drugs during the heights of his acting carrer. Still, it's not okay to rape women! However it all goes back to why it took so long to try this case! 20 years after the fact makes me think something is not right! The suffering these two women went thru seems to be more with the courts not promptly acting on the allegations in a timely manner. I still feel that in the case of rape, women have the responsibility to speak up ASAP -- as in the very second they are able to get away from their rapist! Waiting even a week to report somethig like this seems more like buyers remorse to me when it comes to a rape charge because if they really were raped they need to come forward right away!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Enrique organized a private army to engage in treason. It wasn't a protest, it was an insurrection which is worse than rape - especially when people died. Enrique has the blood of cops on his hands, Danny doesn't, but Danny gets the harsher sentence.

I'm under no illusion that George Floyd was a model citizen, and I've previously stated as much. But he did nothing that would warrant being murdered in the street. And it was murder as determined by a unanimous jury who looked extensively at all of the evidence. I've heard a rumor that Floyd's $20 may have been counterfeit, but has anybody proven it? And even if it was, can you prove he knew it? One would think that with this much media attention that the Minneapolis Police Department would have carefully examined that $20 bill, and if it was counterfeit, don't you think they would have introduced that into evidence during the Chauvin trial?

I can't swear to a certainty that every one of the $20 bills in my wallet right now is genuine. That's the problem with murdering someone before they have their day in court, now it can't be proven one way or the other. And even if it was counterfeit, since when is a $20 petty misdemeanor a capital offence? I've always known that to attack the seat of democracy would likely be a capital offense, but that's because democracy is worth a hell of a lot more than $20.

To be murdered over $20 that may have been legitimate anyway, by a cop who has now been found guilty of evading taxes on hundreds of thousands of dollars is hypocrisy at its worst. Where is your outrage over the white murderous former cop evading taxes by an amount that absolutely dwarfs what he murdered George Floyd over? If this truly has nothing to do with race, you should be far more outraged by Derek Chauvin. He didn't just kill a black guy, he stole from all of us too.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Look, I'm tired of listening to your bullshit about Floyd... The guy was a piece of shit! He resisted arrest - he fucked around and found out! PERIOD!

Nothing you libtards do or say is going to bring him back -- and that is that!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

I'm not the one who brought him into a discussion about Danny Masterson, but once you did I had to respond.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Sure you did! You opened that door by saying that Danny should have only gotten 9 years for his crimes while Enrique should have gotten the death by lethal injection! For PROTESTING!

Well, how about these people?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/protesters-storm-kevin-mccarthys-office-110404058.html

Should they be sentenced to death by lethal injection for protesting too? Or is 22 years prison enough for you?

It's a slippery slope if you ask me.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

From the article you posted:

"Were proud to use nonviolent civil disobedience, among other tactics, to demand that our government take action to end AIDS,"

So long as they remained nonviolent, no, lethal injection is not indicated for this offense. However the McCarthy protesters did not leave when asked, and were therefore trespassing on a federal facility, which is a crime and they should probably be charged with that. Depending on whether they have any prior offences I could envision punishments ranging from community service, to some actual jail time measured in weeks or months.

People are free to peacefully protest outside the Capital on the National Mall anytime they want. And they may petition their elected representatives for redress of grievances. In fact, it's a proud American tradition.

What people may NOT do, is engage in political violence. People may not enter a Federal facility without authorization. People may not assault and murder police officers. People may not cause harm to or threaten an elected representative. People may not destroy property. Nor may people burn down a city or block traffic either, even if a very corrupt police department murders someone in the street. There's nothing slippery about this slope, in fact, it's pretty straight forward and simple to understand. Peaceful protests are protected by the Constitution. So to is treason specifically explained in the Constitution. Enrique did a hell of a lot more than just protest. He has the blood of police officers on his hands, and I'll call you out on it every time you try to spin things otherwise.

A coup attempt is not a protest, and unless severe punishments are levied, a coup attempt is only a dress rehearsal.

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Tuesday 12th of September 2023 01:09:16 PM

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Really the only difference here is crowd size... J6 was a MASSIVE turn out.

But you can dance around it any way you like! It won't change the facts!

Like I said, a slippery slope.

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

Now we got the recent Palestinians in the WH. Grab your popcorn!

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Ya'll acting like you didn't read the V8 Cafe from 2019-2022...

The squeaky wheel gets the oil.

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

Sentences make no sense. I was a FBI victim witness in 9th District, Seattle. Bout 2 years ago. Northwest Mint if you like to follow. 2 people, 13 and 15 counts every fraud etc. Stole $30 mil from 2500 people. She gets 3 years, 13 "concurrent" he gets 15 counts all concurrent. These counts were 13 years each! He is in min security, lompoc.

I read our police log. One character stole just over $10K twice. 2 consecutive, not concurrent, 8 years in KY prison. Look it up, not pretty place!!! But that's justice in Lib WA compared to Cons KY. BTW, the owner? This is his 3rd time in prison, Last was 3 years in Leaven.

Besides witness in court, I also did the sentencing zoom where I got to speak.