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FELONY ELECTION FRAUD

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Yes, thank you PowerStroker... but I'm not digging the title, at least for what I want to talk about.

But I do appreciate you making this thread, because I'd like to ask you about the $800k hush money payment from Bill Clinton to Paula Jones!

What are your thoughts on that NDA (aka hush-money payment)

If Trump paying Stormy Daniels hush money was Felony Election Fraud -- then by rights, so would have been Bill Clintons -- correct?

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

No comment, PowerStroker?

I sort of figured... and BTW, there may have been some Felony Election Fraud -- but it would have come from your side... that's all I'm saying.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Having sex with a porn star isn't illegal. Paying hush money isn't illegal. However if one does not categorize the hush money expense properly on taxes, that is a crime. Or if other people are paying to kill damaging news stories for a politician, in dollar amounts that exceed the federal maximum campaign contribution, that too is a crime. If any such crimes are committed for the purposes of influencing an election, that then becomes a felony under New York law, and it has been that way for a very long time. I would imagine most states have similar statutes.

What I'm most amazed about, is that the law was recently broken 34 times by someone who spent his life living in New York. Someone with so much inherited wealth that he can afford a full time team of lawyers. Did his lawyers not advise him properly, or did he just not listen? I'm thinking the latter, and now he's going to pay whatever price the judge imposes.

Moral of the story, never assume you are the smartest guy in the room by substituting your own judgement for professional legal advice.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

With regard to the Clinton / Paula Jones payoff. Wasn't that just Bill paying directly out of his own personal funds? As far as I know, he didn't claim that payment as a business legal expense or conspire to have other people foot the bill in order to create a fake paper trail to hide it's purpose did he?

In Clinton's case:

Ethical - NO
Illegal - NO

In Trump's case:

Ethical - NO
Illegal - YES

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SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

PowerStroker wrote:
Having sex with a porn star isn't illegal. Paying hush money isn't illegal. However if one does not categorize the hush money expense properly on taxes, that is a crime. Or if other people are paying to kill damaging news stories for a politician, in dollar amounts that exceed the federal maximum campaign contribution, that too is a crime. If any such crimes are committed for the purposes of influencing an election, that then becomes a felony under New York law, and it has been that way for a very long time. I would imagine most states have similar statutes.

What I'm most amazed about, is that the law was recently broken 34 times by someone who spent his life living in New York. Someone with so much inherited wealth that he can afford a full time team of lawyers. Did his lawyers not advise him properly, or did he just not listen? I'm thinking the latter, and now he's going to pay whatever price the judge imposes.

Moral of the story, never assume you are the smartest guy in the room by substituting your own judgement for professional legal advice.

You know PowerStroker... Cohen was Trump's lawyer! So much for attorney client privilege! Of course Trump was being advised by his lawyer! An NDA is a legal agreement, it was also carried out and advised to him by his lawyer! Thus the classifications of "legal expenses" were justifiable in my opinion! I would also like to add that Trump gave away ALL of his Presidential paychecks to various Government agencies -- so I highly doubt it was ever an issue of him not being able to pay out of pocket, rather he was just following his lawyers instruction! Pretty fu@ked up that Trump's own lawyer betrayed him so badly! The only thing worse than that were the 12 partisan peices of sh!t that sat on that rigged Jury! The whole trial was a fu@king joke! Gag orders, totally unfair rulings by the Judge, who by the way was as conflicted as they come -- having donated to a "stop trump" campaign and his daughter being a Democrat activist! The moment the Judge ruled this was not going to be televised, the Judge and the courts lost ALL credibility to me! So it really matters not that he was found guilty by 12 people who were no doubt as corrupt... the fact that all of the Jurors identities have been kept private is also another reason I reject that kangaroo court!

In fact, NYC as a whole has really turned me off... I doubt I would EVER visit that place ever again and I feel bad for anyone living or doing business there. This was a classic case of "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime" straight out of the book of Democrat communism!

New York is now the rotten apple! All they had to do was televise the trial live, refrain from gag-orders and let the Jury pool be known and I might have had some respect for the proceedings... as it stands it was nothing more than a rigged trial!

I'm not at all shocked that you are happy with the results... I just hope you feel the same way when it's one of your own party that is being unfairly prosecuted somewhere in a deep-red state court.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

PowerStroker wrote:
With regard to the Clinton / Paula Jones payoff. Wasn't that just Bill paying directly out of his own personal funds? As far as I know, he didn't claim that payment as a business legal expense or conspire to have other people foot the bill in order to create a fake paper trail to hide it's purpose did he?

In Clinton's case:

Ethical - NO
Illegal - NO

In Trump's case:

Ethical - NO
Illegal - YES

Once again your partisanship is on display for all to see... Nobody really knows what the details are because the trial was held behind closed doors! The only thing we know for sure is the Democrats star witness was an admitted liar, a cheat and a thief! Not only that he served time for his lies and his improper handling of this matter! But that didn't seem to matter one bit to the 12 Democrats on the Jury! We can safely say they were Democrats because the Democrat Judge has concealed ALL of their names so nobody can investigate if they lied during the voir dire process of Jury selection.

Never mind that ALL 34 counts had exceeded the statutory limits for prosecution! That alone opens the door to a SCOTUS federal question in of itself! Let alone the Judges clear Cannon violation! It's also funny how the Columbian born Judge was selected, almost as if he was hand picked! If it comes to pass he violated Judicial Cannon's and unfairly used his court to serve his partisan leanings then it should be considered treason and result in immediate disbarment and deportation!

And we also cannot overlook the fact that NYC gave Jean Carroll an $83 MILLION dollar judgement -- when clearly based on the things she post on Twitter are anything but innocent!

It's clear that New York is trying to burry Trump! The rest of the WORLD can see this PowerStroker! Not just the rest of the country! It's a VERY BAD look on New York! I've got a feeling the rest of the country is going to give New York a wake-up call this November!

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
PowerStroker wrote:
With regard to the Clinton / Paula Jones payoff. Wasn't that just Bill paying directly out of his own personal funds? As far as I know, he didn't claim that payment as a business legal expense or conspire to have other people foot the bill in order to create a fake paper trail to hide it's purpose did he?

In Clinton's case:

Ethical - NO
Illegal - NO

In Trump's case:

Ethical - NO
Illegal - YES

1. The only thing we know for sure is the Democrats star witness was an admitted liar, a cheat and a thief! Not only that he served time for his lies and his improper handling of this matter! But that didn't seem to matter one bit to the 12 Democrats on the Jury! We can safely say they were Democrats because the Democrat Judge has concealed ALL of their names so nobody can investigate if they lied during the voir dire process of Jury selection.
2. Never mind that ALL 34 counts had exceeded the statutory limits for prosecution! That alone opens the door to a SCOTUS federal question in of itself! Let alone the Judges clear Cannon violation! It's also funny how the Columbian born Judge was selected, almost as if he was hand picked! If it comes to pass he violated Judicial Cannon's and unfairly used his court to serve his partisan leanings then it should be considered treason and result in immediate disbarment and deportation!
3. And we also cannot overlook the fact that NYC gave Jean Carroll an $83 MILLION dollar judgement -- when clearly based on the things she post on Twitter are anything but innocent!
4. It's clear that New York is trying to burry Trump! The rest of the WORLD can see this PowerStroker! Not just the rest of the country! It's a VERY BAD look on New York! I've got a feeling the rest of the country is going to give New York a wake-up call this November!

ROTFLMAO !!!

R1. That's just politics for you yo !

R2. SCOTUS is a real issue you need to deal with. Unelected, self-serving tyrants that are behind all illegal activity...One might say that RKM has their money-in-the-bank.

R3. Yep, we gotta believe what we read on Twitter yo !!!

R4. I don't know Stellar...The people in New York have a 3-vote to-1 advantage per-person over the rest of the country...You might want to change that corrupt arrangement first, among many other things...

Watch & learn...

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Attorney client privilege is void when the attorney is a participant in the crime. In fact, here's a list of lawyers in legal trouble themselves for putting their Trump loyalty ahead of their duty to the law: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kenneth-chesebro-indicted-in-wisconsin-here-are-all-the-former-trump-lawyers-now-facing-legal-consequences/ar-BB1kGNVr?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=f50311c4d3f7447f99e41fbd3733b17c&ei=12

Trump's legal team helped pick the jury that convicted him of 34 felonies.

The court transcript is a public record and has been reported on widely. The court room was packed, and even had an overflow room for people who wanted to watch the trial. Though not televised, this wasn't done behind closed doors.

This case is an example of why a president needs to make an effort to be president of all the United States, and not just the people who agree with him. Because odds are, a randomly selected jury is not going to be comprised entirely of people who agree with him. Not that it matters, because the duty of a juror is to the facts and the law, not their ideology. This is true regardless of political party, and hopefully serves as a deterrent against bad behavior by a president. At least it has for presidents of both parties or over 200 years, until Trump came along. Why do you think Nixon resigned? Nothing has ever deterred nepotism baby Trump from his bad behavior, and now he gets to await sentence and submit to the criminal justice system, just like anyone else who did the same would have to do. This is what a child grows into when they are never spanked.

Within the Republican Party, there are many patriotic men and women of honor, of faith, and of selfless public service. So why the hell can't you guys just pick a better candidate that embodies your hopes instead of your grievances?

By elevating a man who embodies only your worst qualities, you did this to yourselves.

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Wednesday 5th of June 2024 09:34:22 AM

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

PowerStroker asked...

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qt."Why do you think Nixon resigned "? ....

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This is a complicated question, as Mr.Nixon was doing too-much-good for the country, & the "real people in power" wanted him out, as he was ultimately costing them money& power....

1. He stopped the Vietnam war after he thought enough that enough money was made by the war profiteers. Remember that more bombs were dropped by the US-of-I in Nam than in WW-II...

2. He created the EPA.

3. He instigated trade arrangements with China, for the first time in over 25-years.

4. He implemented SALT, which would have upset the local Nuclear idiots.

5. Most importantly, like Mr.Kennedy, he wanted to reveal the UFO truth, & that broke the camels-back, & the Illuminati / Cabal / Bo-Grove sausage-festers / Bildergerger's decided enough is enough, we're losing you right now, & created a bogus "wire-tapping" scenario via a leaked informant known as "Deep Throat"...( Insidently, Deep Throat was a porn film title )...

Funny how sex & scandal go together in your politics...

Check this out yo...

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Also I should add that it isn't the Biden Justice Department that prosecuted this case. It was done by a New York district attorney who does not answer to Biden.

Biden has never, and will never tell the Justice Department to prosecute anyone, or to not prosecute anyone. To do so would be an enormous abuse of power. It should also be noted that the DOJ under Biden is presently prosecuting a Democratic Senator, and the president's own son. In a banana republic, Biden would stop both, but he doesn't because he believes in the rule of law.

Barr did weaponize the Justice Department, Garland is cleaning it up and following the evidence wherever it leads. Sometimes evidence leads to inconvenient places, that just means he's doing his job. Which is exactly what Alvin Bragg did in New York.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Just who are you trying to kid, PowerStroker?

Prior to this kangaroo court, and it's 34 trumped up counts -- President Trump had a spotless criminal record!

It's clear what Democrats are doing, and it's crossed a line this time. Everyone sees it! Even Democrats themselves!

Nobody gives AF about what some corrupt court in New York thinks!

Everyone knows this was political persecution by a city that notoriously eats their own! In fact, New York is comming off as a jealous girlfriend that is green with envy about their boyfriend dumping them and moving out of state!

Everyone knows Democrats have been in "Get Trump" mode from the very first day he rode down that escalator and announced he was running for President!

Democrats have cried wolf so many times now with sham impeachment efforts, fake dossiers, and long since statutorily expired grivances that over half the country can't even stomach it anymore!

Nobody is shocked that corrupt Democrats have made an absolute mockery of our justice system! Most of us understand that Democrats wish to completly DESTROY America so they can pervert it with their own crooked one-way system!

I know it's real because I've had credit lines cut for donating to Trump in the past! During election years our phones are packed with scam/solicitation calls for the sole reason of ensuring Republican fundraising efforts go un-answered.

Since you're such a George Floyd lover it shouldn't bother you at all when America elects a felon for POTUS come November!

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

PowerStroker wrote:

Barr did weaponize the Justice Department, Garland is cleaning it up and following the evidence wherever it leads. Sometimes evidence leads to inconvenient places, that just means he's doing his job. Which is exactly what Alvin Bragg did in New York.

When Trump wins the election and Garland is replaced as AG -- then we will REALLY see where the evidence leads! And everyone already knows it's going to lead right to the doorstep of the DNC!

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

PowerStroker wrote:
Attorney client privilege is void when the attorney is a participant in the crime. In fact, here's a list of lawyers in legal trouble themselves for putting their Trump loyalty ahead of their duty to the law: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kenneth-chesebro-indicted-in-wisconsin-here-are-all-the-former-trump-lawyers-now-facing-legal-consequences/ar-BB1kGNVr?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=f50311c4d3f7447f99e41fbd3733b17c&ei=12

Trump's legal team helped pick the jury that convicted him of 34 felonies.
The court transcript is a public record and has been reported on widely. The court room was packed, and even had an overflow room for people who wanted to watch the trial. Though not televised, this wasn't done behind closed doors.

This case is an example of why a president needs to make an effort to be president of all the United States, and not just the people who agree with him. Because odds are, a randomly selected jury is not going to be comprised entirely of people who agree with him. Not that it matters, because the duty of a juror is to the facts and the law, not their ideology. This is true regardless of political party, and hopefully serves as a deterrent against bad behavior by a president. At least it has for presidents of both parties or over 200 years, until Trump came along. Why do you think Nixon resigned? Nothing has ever deterred nepotism baby Trump from his bad behavior, and now he gets to await sentence and submit to the criminal justice system, just like anyone else who did the same would have to do. This is what a child grows into when they are never spanked.

Within the Republican Party, there are many patriotic men and women of honor, of faith, and of selfless public service. So why the hell can't you guys just pick a better candidate that embodies your hopes instead of your grievances?

By elevating a man who embodies only your worst qualities, you did this to yourselves.

That's funny PowerStroker! Instead of posting a link to another Democrat hit-job, why not post a link to these "transcripts" you claim are public record! It's because you're FOS! All of the Jurors identities have been sealed! What kind of BS is that? Don't we have a RIGHT to know the identities of the 12 people who completly made a mockery out of the Justice system?

The only reason these 12 jurors came back with a guilty verdict is because they were all coerced by a staunchly Democrat society that would see them forever blacklisted if they did not tow the party line in the Jury room! That is the bottom line here! That is the truth, and that is why their identities have been sealed! Of all the political and celebrity trials that have been televised over the years -- this one was probably the most important and historic since the invention of TV itself! Yet it was not televised? The Defendant was gagged by court order and the entire Jury had their identities sealed?

GTFO here with your perverted sense of justice, PowerStroker!

Your thoughts on Attorney Client Privilege are just as corrupt! We hire attorneys for counsel and advice! If an attorney is dirty and giving bad advice it should fall on the attorneys shoulders -- and it did! Cohen was CONVICTED for his poor judgement and stripped of his law license! Yet that didn't stop corrupt Democrats from being able to use him as a credible witness... Your arguments are a threadbare recital of the facts, PowerStroker... a very poor-poor reflection of your hack mentality that you would think it's okay for your own Attorney to betray their oath! Might as well let Doctors start selling peoples medical records and Catholics start recording their confessions! Where does it end?

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

No, you don't have a right to know the identities of jurors. It would only lead to harassment and abuse of them.

Democrats don't have a right to know their identities either, which prevents us from "blacklisting" them from the society we apparently control.

And yes, Cohen was also unanimously convicted by a randomly selected jury of his peers for the small part he played in these crimes that benefited Trump and were ordered by Trump. Crimes for which Trump too was convicted of 34 felonies by a different randomly selected unanimous jury. A jury who had no fear of retribution from either political side. A jury that was able to stick to the facts and the law because their identities were sealed. A jury that Trump's legal defense team interviewed and helped select. So yes, there were 2 separate randomly selected juries for Michael Cohen and Donald Trump that came to the same conclusions here. It only takes 1 jury to establish legal finding of fact, and we have 2 so far. An excellent point Rex!

Cohen being stripped of a law license doesn't mean he doesn't have some relevant testimony to offer. In fact, his long tenure as Trump's personal goon, uniquely qualifies him to offer testimony here. Testimony that was corroborated by several other witnesses, which is why the jury found him credible in this case.

It ends, when corruption and evil is completely rooted out, not a second before.

May God have mercy on Trump's soul, because Bubba won't when shower time comes around... Bubba you see, is a very large man with some kinky fetishes, and Bubba has needs. And Trump has such cute little feminine hands and stuff. This could be the beginning of a beautiful relationship. Trump is after all a big fan of intercourse. I think he's about to get all he could ever want.

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Thursday 6th of June 2024 03:21:20 PM

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SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

PowerStroker is clearly unhinged and drunk off the liberal Kool-Aid when he starts quoting Mark Twain...

So NYC gave Trump a black eye... do you REALLY think he will serve a single day? And even if he does, do you think the Secret Service is gonna let anyone put their greasy LA hands on him?

The answer is NO! On both accounts!

You party has gone so far off the rails this time it's not even funny! They are literally proving everything Trump said -- all the while they seriously think that nobody is noticing.

With the level and speed of cognitive decline, I don't even know if they will be able to keep him standing -- let alone debate Trump. It borderlines elder abuse if you ask me! But if that's what he wants to do -- it's his business... thankfully he's not a SCOTU justice that can serve a life term if he wants... who can forget RBG who clung to power until the very end! Thankfully Presidents can only serve 4 year at a time and they term out after 8!

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

I mean it's literally starting to look like the movie "Weekend at Bernies"

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

Yo,

PowerStroker said...
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qt."It ends, when corruption and evil is completely rooted out, not a second before"....

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I agree completely, & you can start by rooting-out Genocide-Joe & the sausage-festival attendants at the upcoming Bohemian Grove meeting...