I can't belive it... I bet it took a LOT for him to do this -- although his health was starting to get the better of him, and being POTUS sure as heck wasn't doing him any good in terms of recovery.
It appears he is endorsing Kamala Harris, however that just seems INSANE because I doubt she could muster the kind of national support that Biden did... heck she didn't even do well in the 2020 primaries -- I don't see Democrats running her... but I am sure hope Biden's mental state can hold out until 2025 because we are doomed if he is found un-fit for office and Harris becomes POTUS #47! Not to mention Trump will have to make a new batch of hats to read 45 - 48!
Now the big question on everyones minds is who will replace him?
What an incredibly selfless act of patriotism. To walk away from the thing you worked your entire life to achieve in order to give the American people the best possible chance of preserving democracy.
I can think of no better legacy for a public servant. He wanted to leave it all on the field, and by doing this, he did. Love him or hate him, this deserves respect.
I'm not gonna sugar coat it, because you'd prolly eat it... but, President Biden's mental health is the main reason that he stood aside. And for that, it's deserving of even more respect!
Because it didn't come without a bunch of arm twisting! Although them slippery Democrats could have always had this planned out!
It's just a short matter of time before they also force him to step down as POTUS, under threat of Article 25 -- to bring about #47.
There is just no other way... getting him to step down from the election was just the first step -- that letter he wrote pretty much paves that way.
When is the DNC anyway?
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Oh you just watch and see! If he's unfit to run for POTUS, then many will demand that he is also unfit to lead!
5 months is an eternity in politics! One by one, high ranking Democrats will be hauld in front of congress and grilled about who knew what and when they knew it about Biden's cognitive decline.
Furthermore, in many states it has blown past the time limit to switch candidates... this puts even more pressure on Biden to step down -- especially since he's backing Harris!
Then we have the REAL problem... just last week Biden told us all he was not going to quit and he was going to run! But today he just does a complete 180? Something is VERY wrong! VERY-VERY wrong and it won't be long before they have to spill the beans.
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It was the polling data after his debate performance that lead to his decision. The numbers showed him losing in several swing states.
C'mon PowerStroker... we all seen the videos -- even if leftist sites like YouTube and Google are already scrubbing them.
We all seen the videos where he dismissed the polls -- we all seen the video just last week where he swore that he was going to run and win!
Please don't try and bullsh!t us here... It's bad enough you guys have been lying to us for the past three years! It's bad enough your liberal RAG sites like Google and YouTube are already hiding the videos we all seen with Biden being defiant and swearing that he would not step aside.
Something has happened! I think people have known for a VERY LONG TIME, but like you -- they just lie. And you know you're lying!
It wasn't the polling data! And it damn sure wasn't Democratic! They twisted his arm, took away his campaign money and then finally they gave him a real nasty version of COVID that probably took him out.
Why didn't Biden get on video? Why did he write a letter? Why wasn't it on official White House letterhead?
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Why didn't Biden get on video ...Why did he write a letter ?... Why wasn't it on official White House letterhead ? ...
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Stellar, it is thought that your POTUS Genocide-Joe has dementia...This means the sob can't even remember his own name if bad enough...
Everyone has been played-off, & the gamesters are cashing-in-their-chips right now, until its time to roll again in 2025 or so...(But they're in for a surprise perhaps).
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Democrats have worked to conceal the seriousness of POTUS Biden's health for quite a long time! Many knew Biden was not all there back when he ran in 2020... but people were so fed up with the COVID lockdowns they wanted change!
Funny thing it, we're about to go right back to it... as the politicians keep fist fu@king the universe!
This inflation is no joke... something very big is about to happen -- I can feel it! And no, your alien pals aren't going to be able to stop it.
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1.Democrats have worked to conceal the seriousness of POTUS Biden's health for quite a long time!
2.Many knew Biden was not all there back when he ran in 2020... but people were so fed up with the COVID lockdowns they wanted change!
3.Funny thing it, we're about to go right back to it... as the politicians keep fist fu@king the universe!
4.This inflation is no joke... something very big is about to happen -- I can feel it! And no, your alien pals aren't going to be able to stop it.
R1. True, but Bernie Sanders was going to reveal the ET truth, so they wanted the Biden / Harris ticket to win, so it would be business as usual, & the 1991 US-of-I Defence Strategy implemented as stated...All this is in the UFO thread via Mr.Greer & Danny Sheehan...I even said this back in 2018 or so...Where have you been ???
R2. No, they had no-one-else at hand who would "keep-the-ball-rolling" as per the 1991 US-of-I Defence Strategy, the NWO Bush bollox...That's what was written in the letter at Bush's funeral, that the scam was blown, & they've been in "oh shyte" mode since...This is why the madness exists. COrona VIrus Disease 2019 = the WEF great reset.
R3. Well the Democrats ( who still mail me asking for money ) have under Genocide-Joes campain collected over 240-million dollars that they don't want to give to Kamila lol! Look out, Hillary approaching...( Now, what's in the lap-top ) ???...
R4. It's part of the "Great Reset" Stellar, where the New World Order is trying to equalize monetary values world-wide, to ease their ingress, as indicated by the Jagoff's video, where all the proof is. All this is done via the WEF.
Anyhow, there's far more important matters to discuss like PowerStroker's 460 build yo !
And get out & do a CE-5, you'll be so-glad you did !
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I've had time to think about it and what Biden did by standing down is basically quitting on the American people! Not only that, he's a cheat!
Joe Biden's legacy should be that of a cheat and a quitting loser!
Biden should be immediatly removed from office under the 25th amendment! Let Kamala fall apart for three months -- let the air out of her balloon! Make the Democrats REALLY think about what another 4 years of Kamala means at the DNC!
He stood down! That means he QUIT! Now he is trying to force everyone to nominate his VP while he pulls strings behind the curtain! That's CHEATING! If you are the incumbent you take the good with the bad! You have to campaign at the same time as you lead!
This is all bullsh!t and if Republicans don't pull their heads out of their asses RIGHT NOW it's going to be serious problems and it will be their election to lose!
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He didn't quit the presidency, he just chose not to seek a second term once this one expires. How is it cheating when he isn't even playing? To invoke the 25th, his cabinet would have to vote to remove him. Aside from being old, what cause do they have to do so?
He's not forcing anyone to vote for Harris, but he is endorsing her. It seems the entire party is coming together to support her, but Joe's delegates are now free to vote for whomever they want at the convention, though many are now going on record stating they will vote for Harris.
And exactly what do you have against the vice president anyway? Has she wronged you at some point?
Not only that, Joe Biden and EVERYONE close to him knew he was un-fit to lead LONG AGO! They ALL concealed it -- most especially Kamala!
Nobody is getting behind Kamala! You Democrats are just clueless followers who will do as your told -- or else! You suck! Your policies suck and everything out of your mouth is a lie or a perversion of the truth!
Kamala did a POOR job on immigration -- TOTAL FAILURE! She's a con artist that tries to curry favor with the black folk by falsley claiming she is black! Sort of like how Elizabeth Warren claimed she was native American when she wasn't! It was all BS!
Not only that, while Kamala was the AG in California she went after the reporters who broke the story that a California Planned Parenthood was selling body parts! You get that? Instead of going after Planned Parenthood she went after the whistleblowers!
All of the lying and cheating your party has done over the past three and a half years needs to be brought to light! You party has cried wolf so many times and lied that I doubt ANYONE trust them -- except for you and your party line towing pals in the Unions! Remember what Joe Biden told a Union Worker in Detroit -- "I don't work for you!" that is the ONLY truth to ever come out of a Democrats mouth!
The FACT is -- Joe Biden QUIT! We all seen his debate performance -- he's unfit to lead and currently hiding behind the curtain trying to pull a fast one!
I used to think very highly of Biden's integrity prior to this stunt! But now it's clear! BIDEN IS A QUITTER, A CHEAT, AND A LOSER!
It's my opinion Biden only picked Harris because he wanted a blow-job from her! Given her past, I don't blame him! But I'm not gonna vote for some chick just because she gave Joe Biden head! Hell, by that logic we may as well try and elect Monica Lewinsky!
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qt."To invoke the 25th, his cabinet would have to vote to remove him... Aside from being old, what cause do they have to do so ?... _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
* Maybe for illegally selling countless thousands of weapons-of-mass-destruction to support the illegal land occupation by Israel, in an illegal war, that's killed thousands of innocent people & counting ???...
It sure sounds like a better reason than anything Stellar is coming-up with...
Just sayin'...
-- Edited by Rastus on Tuesday 23rd of July 2024 09:03:52 AM
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Obviously his cabinet agreed with the aforementioned policies as they happened, since they were responsible for implementing it. If they didn't object at the time, why would they vote to remove him now over it? Besides, much of the arms sales you complain of were authorized and paid for by Congress. They could remove him too, by impeachment. But all he did was implement laws they sent to his desk.
Sorry to tell you guys, but Biden is going to finish his term. Any wet dreams you have to the contrary are just that.
Doesn't matter at all if Biden finishes his term (even though I don't think he will)... Democrats are DONE!
There is no way in hell that Kamala will get the old people vote... I doubt she will get the black vote either -- given the fact she was a ruthless prosecutor who kept people in jail for slave labor making license plates in California.
You see, it really matters very little if Biden finishes his term -- because Democrats are OUT! I wouldn't be shocked if Democrats lose the Senate -- and Republicans improve their majority in the house!
But here is the thing -- Republicans WILL move to enforce the 25th amendment! And there will be a fair amount of "brown people" (as you call them) that will break with your party to ensure Kamala at least gets to sit in the POTUS chair -- even if for only 5 more months before the voters toss the Democrats out. I think it's fitting karma that Biden be removed from office by the same "brown people" that he and his party put in congress.
It's not looking good for Democrats! Sure, the hard core party liners are trying to make it seem like their is all this hype -- but nobody (read that as a majority of Americans) wants Harris for POTUS.
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Oh, and BTW... they will remove him due to his declining mental health. I know you guys been lying about it the past four years -- but the cat is out of the bag now!
My only hope is that soon President Trump makes sure that everyone who had a hand in deceiving the people for so long, and especially the ones that towards the end strung out his stepping down to force Democrats to nominate Kamala, are held accountable!
Everyone used to wonder how state courts were able to railroad Trump in these most recent court cases -- but now it's clear that Biden has been asleep at the wheel for a long time! Democrats were literally getting away with murder as Biden drooled and shit his pants.
If I was Biden, I would not have been a quitter and given up... I would have made my own party show the country it's true colors! I bet you're glad he's a quitter and a loser -- because it softens the reality that Democrats don't give AF about democracy or voting...
Further proof is their jamming thru Kamala as the nominee, and extorting Biden to abandon his 2024 campaign!
Nice Nazi Hitler party you belong to PowerStroker!
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I think it will happen much quicker than six months... I wouldn't be shocked if they have Biden out of office before the end of October!
Why wouldn't they? Democrats are trying to flip the script -- they want someone fresh in there and kicking Biden to the curb allows the party the luxury of not having to answer for Biden or his family dealings.
Biden should have known better! He chickened out! I'd have much sooner voted for Biden than Kamala! In fact the ONLY reason I would never have considered voting for Biden was because Kamala was on his ticket! It's ironic isn't it?
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I told you, prior to Biden pulling this stunt with Kamala and dropping out (quitting) the race -- I genuinely did like Joe Biden as a person.
I also said I'd never vote for Biden recently for the sole reason that a vote for Biden would be a proxy vote for Harris (due to his age and health).
Lost a lot of respect for Biden with this latest stunt of trying to force Kamala on us and quitting. Lost a LOT of respect for him!
I also lost 26 points on my credit score since last night so clearly the machine is at work trying to punish me for speaking my mind! It's not shocking -- you can pull up threads on this forum where I have had credit lines cut immediatly following donations to the Trump campaign... I'd say it was coincidence, but it happened to THREE different cards and every one was right after a donation to Trump!
That is just the way your party operates. Cheating, quitting losers -- the lot of you!
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Doesn't the fact that President Biden allowed Trump to blow through huge sums of money attacking him, allowed the Republican convention to play out, waited for Trump to select a total MAGA crank vice presidential candidate that won't appeal to any independent voters whatsoever. And then gave you guys the old 'rope a dope' by dropping out of the race tell you that he actually does have a pretty darn good grasp of things?
Biden is trying to save democracy from Trump TWICE and might just pull it off. What a legacy!
-- Edited by PowerStroker on Tuesday 23rd of July 2024 03:41:48 PM
I can't belive it... I bet it took a LOT for him to do this -- although his health was starting to get the better of him, and being POTUS sure as heck wasn't doing him any good in terms of recovery.
It appears he is endorsing Kamala Harris, however that just seems INSANE because I doubt she could muster the kind of national support that Biden did... heck she didn't even do well in the 2020 primaries -- I don't see Democrats running her... but I am sure hope Biden's mental state can hold out until 2025 because we are doomed if he is found un-fit for office and Harris becomes POTUS #47! Not to mention Trump will have to make a new batch of hats to read 45 - 48!
Now the big question on everyones minds is who will replace him?
Fake Biden walked away because that was option 1, option 2 was 25th. Real Joe is long dead.
Rumors "he/whoever" is not well, Vegas? TIA, minor stroke, Kamel (another double) visit in Delaware, Frank "spend what time we have left with him" PART OF THE MOVIE.
Now "he" isn't needed anymore watch for "the fakes" death to be publicly announced, covid complications, stroke, whatever. It won't be long before it's announced. GH BUsh was also dead 4 years before it came public and it was "brain cancer" No it wasn't, it was gitmo and a the needle. Same with McStain.
It's known as a "Rommel death" If you confess everything, spill all the beans and cooperate you will die with your legacy intact, keep face, family won't be bothered.
Democrats have worked to conceal the seriousness of POTUS Biden's health for quite a long time! Many knew Biden was not all there back when he ran in 2020... but people were so fed up with the COVID lockdowns they wanted change!
It was not Joe in 2020. Even the debates were his double/s. It wasn't because covid lockdown, hide in his basement that he didn't campaign. He was in fucking GITMO.
Reminds me, watch Nancy Drew on upube. Goes to DC everyday, shows the boarded up buildings, no one there. Took a video in the visitor center of the presidents photos, also no dopey Joe pic in whitehouse but no video allowed there. Guess what, last photo is DJT. No pic of Joe. Nancy asked why not at the visitor center in 2023. Answer? No picture because of covid.
50% of his campaign he swore to close GITMO. Obama did an Ex/o to close it. Trump rescinded Obamas and wrote one to keep it open AND expand it. Along comes dopey Joe who merely needs to rescind Trumps order, write his and close GITMO. Problem here? Can't rescind or write a "real" Ex/o if you don't have presidential powers. Hear fake Joe say he can't do anything at the border cause "he doesn't have the power"? Take your time.
I don't believe for a second people voted for Joe because they wanted change and sick of lockdown. They voted for Joe because they are brainwashed, ignorant orcs.
Keep watching folks, lot of shit coming down, changes, good ones. Money gonna change bigtime, world wide.
Doesn't matter at all if Biden finishes his term (even though I don't think he will)... Democrats are DONE!
There is no way in hell that Kamala will get the old people vote... I doubt she will get the black vote either -- given the fact she was a ruthless prosecutor who kept people in jail for slave labor making license plates in California.
You see, it really matters very little if Biden finishes his term -- because Democrats are OUT! I wouldn't be shocked if Democrats lose the Senate -- and Republicans improve their majority in the house!
But here is the thing -- Republicans WILL move to enforce the 25th amendment! And there will be a fair amount of "brown people" (as you call them) that will break with your party to ensure Kamala at least gets to sit in the POTUS chair -- even if for only 5 more months before the voters toss the Democrats out. I think it's fitting karma that Biden be removed from office by the same "brown people" that he and his party put in congress.
It's not looking good for Democrats! Sure, the hard core party liners are trying to make it seem like their is all this hype -- but nobody (read that as a majority of Americans) wants Harris for POTUS.
No one wants Kamel, democrats especially. Right don't care, already a done deal, we just laugh watching dems scramble. Take a look at everything, botched assignation, all court cases fall apart, look at scotus rulings and much more. Watching the left scheme over and over and fail over and over is like watching roadrunner cartoons, dems are dead ringers for the character wiley coyote.
Kamel was NEVER ELECTED by anyone, not a vote but fake dopey Joe just picks her. No one else did.
I do agree, Dem party is done. Not necessarily extinction but people are becoming AWAKE and seeing thru the lies, bull and govt/cia/media propaganda. Many anyway, some never will even when it happens and is in their face. Woke is not awakened. Dem party could rebuild and possibly return to a good party, the party of pour parents and JFK.
qt."GH Bush was also dead 4 years before it came public and it was "brain cancer" ...No it wasn't, it was gitmo and a the needle. Same with McStain".
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No doubt there's lot's of stuff that gets done behind-the-scenes, likely arranged through the RKM etc, but with GH Bush, I'm pretty-sure he was alive looking at the video footage right before he died, when he couldn't help himself, & had his hands all over Taylor Swift's ass...He even had to make a formal apology !
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You would have found a way to lose respect for him right before the election no matter what. I've seen your mental gymnastics for years now.
I'm sorry that in the spirit of TRUE tolerance I'll often times state my possition on something -- yet still entertain and listen to other view-points, even complement things I might agree or be impressed with... but there is no gymnastics in what I say.
For example, I complemented you on your little rebuild effort -- stating before, during and after that you were wasting money trying to make upgrades to a pre-programed engine management system... yet you were shocked when I "circled back" to my original possition -- which was always the same and never changed.
Another example would be my rather tolerant and quiet nature for the past few years with regards to Biden and the Democrats... same story here PowerStroker!
Unlike Democrats, I don't demand that people take my possition if they are my friends, or want to use my services. Be it automotive customers, forum users, fellow social media folks who I follow, friends -- or even enemies! You can be you!
That is something Democrats... or should I say "politics" in general -- does not allow.
Yes, I think you're dumb as sh!t if you think because Biden has recommended Harris and quit his campaign that I'll just blindly follow his worm-brain suggestions! HELL NO! I've never liked Kamala Harris! DEMOCRATS DON'T EVEN LIKE KAMALA! The proof is in the results of the last 2016 Democrat convention whereas Harris polled so poorly she droped out without as much as a single delegate! Furthermore I have ALWAYS stated that the only reason I could not get behind Biden was because of his VP pick! That chick is as fake and low-down as they come! I know her type! She fits right in with the Democrat mantra!
Kamala Harris' record speaks for itself... hahahahahahahahahahaha
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qt." I complemented you on your little rebuild effort -- stating before, during and after that you were wasting money trying to make upgrades to a pre-programmed engine management system... Yet you were shocked when I "circled back" to my original position -- which was always the same and never changed". __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Stellar, that's a horrible statement to make, & incorrect too...
1. It's a premier, exalted, even King-of-them-all, V-8 that needed attention. ( A 30+ year production run speaks volumes about its ability to shine ).
2. PowerStroker did a thorough job in adding even more bulletproofness to that engine, in every single way.
3. Nothing was over-looked, or spared no-consideration.
4. These engines last forever in std trim when taken care of. This one will last beyond forever !
5. The enhancements that were made, as assessed by the Competition Cam programme suggest at least 325-Hp & well over 550 ft-lbs of Torque ( I need to check again ).
6. This monster motor cost less than 1/2 of what a "Crate" std replacement item would have cost.
7. This motor is built tough, & ready-to-go to handle any future upgrades reliably.
*That Hp-number would easily lift by 100 on the basis that a 35/72 intake, 74/31 exhaust, hydraulic cam with around 0.530" lift along with the auto-tuning, programmable 800 CFM EFI carb, & single-plane intake...And at least 30-40 Hp more with a dual exhaust...
He built a super-duper-reliable-sleeper that can growl from time-to-time when needed.
It's for use in his truck, & that's the biggest consideration to always keep-in-mind.
-- Edited by Rastus on Tuesday 23rd of July 2024 10:31:52 PM
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qt." I complemented you on your little rebuild effort -- stating before, during and after that you were wasting money trying to make upgrades to a pre-programmed engine management system... Yet you were shocked when I "circled back" to my original position -- which was always the same and never changed". __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Stellar, that's a horrible statement to make, & incorrect too...
1. It's a premier, exalted, even King-of-them-all, V-8 that needed attention. ( A 30+ year production run speaks volumes about its ability to shine ).
2. PowerStroker did a thorough job in adding even more bulletproofness to that engine, in every single way.
3. Nothing was over-looked, or spared no-consideration.
4. These engines last forever in std trim when taken care of. This one will last beyond forever !
5. The enhancements that were made, as assessed by the Competition Cam programme suggest at least 325-Hp & well over 550 ft-lbs of Torque ( I need to check again ).
6. This monster motor cost less than 1/2 of what a "Crate" std replacement item would have cost.
7. This motor is built tough, & ready-to-go to handle any future upgrades reliably.
*That Hp-number would easily lift by 100 on the basis that a 35/72 intake, 74/31 exhaust, hydraulic cam with around 0.530" lift along with the auto-tuning, programmable 800 CFM EFI carb, & single-plane intake...And at least 30-40 Hp more with a dual exhaust...
He built a super-duper-reliable-sleeper that can growl from time-to-time when needed.
It's for use in his truck, & that's the biggest consideration to always keep-in-mind.
STFU, Rastus... for gawd sakes dude spent $1k on a set of headers and hooked it up to a stock converter with a dingy ass muffler.
I don't want to hear anymore BS about it... it's a speed density system and he would have had the exact same results with a run-of-the-mill boat anchor reman engine!
PowerStroker has no kids, isn't married -- and living in his girlfriends house... not only that, he's a flaming liberal!
Don't come in here talking smack about an engine you have never seen in the flesh outside of photos... we all know PowerStroker is not an honest man -- and even he admits it doesn't feel any faster than before.
Pack it in!
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Stellar...
1. The poor Sob changed his oil only to find metallic particulate floating around...That's a major oh-shyte moment...
2. He searched around, & learned that he could refresh-it-himself, for 1/2 the cost of a "crate-eng", AND install top-shelf components.
3. I'm sure the day will come when a full twin-exhaust will live under the body.
4. Those extractors look like they'll only fit-up with the motor-pulled-out, so he fitted them now to save doing it a 2nd-time later.
5. Yes, he may not be getting the performance potential out-of-them at the moment, but there's a reliability aspect where back-pressure is reduced on adjacent valves, the header length for each cylinder is equalized to evenly remove heat & offer enhanced scavenging, at least at low-rpms...
6. The next owner is going to smile big-time when he / she reads his thread, & sees the effort & parts put in there, if he doesn't take advantage of his own efforts.
7. He spent al lot of free time & $$$ doing something he likely didn't want to do with his week-end time.
From now on, & certainly when the new dual exhaust is fitted, every little further upgrade made will see a massive jump in performance each time.
*And remember Stellar, for years now, I've been suggesting the Euro-logs for your 560...PowerStroker has a far better exhaust as it sits now, than your funky exhaust fitted to Goldilox.
-- Edited by Rastus on Wednesday 24th of July 2024 04:42:52 AM
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Actually the poor SOB drove around using cheap gas... thus he probably wiped out his thrust bearings with all the detonation over time... and he's a mechanic -- he knows better!
BTW - my 560 has paid me to drive it all these years, even for all the premium gas it has drank.
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I bet you he's spending that extra on Premium fuel now though... let's ask him!
Hey PowerStroker, you still using that cheap gas in your fresh rebuilt engine?
I don't mean to answer for PowerStroker, but I already asked that question in the 460 thread, & his answer is he's still using the regular gas, which is why he left the engines compression-ratio as std at around 8.8 : 1...
1. Ford engineers designed the motor to run on the lesser fuel, that's why the compression ratio is lowish. And I'm sure the ignition & EFI maps are set correctly, plus the O2 sensor will keep things where they need to be.
2. The amount of dollars saved per-year on a vehicle that runs regular would be substantial, especially when average mileage is less than 10-mpg.
3. 9ctane doesn't make more power-per-se, but offers a cleaner & longer controlled burn, & has additives to keep everything clean from the pump to the engines valves & pistons.
4. If Ford demanded 9ctane fuel, he'd use it.
5. Check-out the old cylinder-head pictures, the engine was running really-well.
Perhaps someone with a claimed 1,600 lb/ft rattle-gun did the damage to the bearings when undoing the crank-bolt to change-out a leaky front seal at some point ?
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I was running premium for break in, but now back to regular unleaded. It runs fine and doesn't ping. Ignition timing is still set to the stock spec of 10 degrees btdc, and I'll probably leave it there since it makes all the power I need. If I know I'm going to be towing something I may fill with premium to do that, but this engine still has EGR and was designed to run on regular unleaded. The bearings just wore out from over 30 years of service. Hell, I'm worn out from 30 years of service.
I bet you he's spending that extra on Premium fuel now though... let's ask him!
Hey PowerStroker, you still using that cheap gas in your fresh rebuilt engine?
I don't mean to answer for PowerStroker, but I already asked that question in the 460 thread, & his answer is he's still using the regular gas, which is why he left the engines compression-ratio as std at around 8.8 : 1...
1. Ford engineers designed the motor to run on the lesser fuel, that's why the compression ratio is lowish. And I'm sure the ignition & EFI maps are set correctly, plus the O2 sensor will keep things where they need to be.
2. The amount of dollars saved per-year on a vehicle that runs regular would be substantial, especially when average mileage is less than 10-mpg.
3. 9ctane doesn't make more power-per-se, but offers a cleaner & longer controlled burn, & has additives to keep everything clean from the pump to the engines valves & pistons.
4. If Ford demanded 9ctane fuel, he'd use it.
5. Check-out the old cylinder-head pictures, the engine was running really-well.
Perhaps someone with a claimed 1,600 lb/ft rattle-gun did the damage to the bearings when undoing the crank-bolt to change-out a leaky front seal at some point ?
1st of all, your name isn't PowerStroker... I'd also add his compression was increased when the heads got decked -- not to mention he used different heads... no mention of cc's for either.
2nd - WTF are you talking about? A 1991 Mercedes-Benz 560SEL also gets about 10 miles to the gallon city driving and REQUIRES Premium fuel!
3rd - Premium has NOTHING to do with making more power and EVERYTHING to do with staying stable enough under certian load conditions so that it doesn't pre-ignite (diesel). Why you have to act stupid? Or did you not know this?
4th - Fords also claims their newer engines only need oil changes every 15,000 miles! Okay -- sure! Ford also told it's 6.0 PowerStroke Engine customers they were "maintaince free"... in other words Fords is full of shit and could care less if some cheap ass wipes out his thrust bearings -- in fact they want people buying new trucks! So what Ford says really needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
5th - Dude didn't take his heads apart for a burnt valve, or a crack... he took it apart because he got glitter in his oil -- and clearly from the bearing photos it was the result of preignition.
Also, it wouldn't matter if someone with a 1,600 lb/ft impact gun used it to undo the crank bolt... so what? Now a dip-shit pounding his balancer on with a hammer would slam that crank up against the thrust bearing! But that has nothing to do with a powerful impact.
Ultimatly you have people out there spending thousands for performance, yet they are too cheap to run the good gas... like some dip shit putting regular gas in a Lamborghini...
IIRC that truck is a regular cab with a short bed -- aka "sport truck"...
People in this country are free to fuck around and find out. I don't care what he puts in his gas tank! I just think it's funny AF!
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Heads are new, not decked so their combustion chamber size hasn't decreased. The E7 and F3 heads have the same combustion chamber size, just different valve and port sizes. The block was decked a little bit just to clean up the head gasket sealing surface. If at some point I hear pinging at part throttle I'll be sure to up the octane, but so far it hasn't been necessary.
I've only owned the thing since 2016 and it's clear that it had a hard life for a long time before I got this regular cab long bed truck.
Your Mercedes is a luxury car with a higher compression ratio. Mine is a truck engine, apples and oranges here.
That's it PowerStroker... whenever you finally do get to making your way to Detroit -- and we have that drink, I'm buying you your own bottle of the cheap shit!
If you can actually hear the pinging -- that's REAL BAD! It's the detonation that you don't hear -- over a long period of time that pounds the snot out of soft bearings... almost like smacking them with eight little hammers 1000's of times per minute! Almost like a 1,600 ft lb impact if you will!
And um... a truck is heavy -- and if it's pulling a big load it's even MORE apt to detonate...
I just don't understand a person who would spend big money improving their engine and then put cheap gas in it... save that stuff for your Honda!
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If it makes you feel better I'll put in mid grade next time, and maybe from now on just to be safe. Premium is a bit too expensive to run all the time for my purposes though. It's not like I'm driving a Mercedes or anything.
I actually have to do some work on the truck after work today... Previous owner did a F350 Front Dana 60 swap to get rid of the TTB suspension. The track bar is an aftermarket adjustable one with heim joints which are really noisy and there's no lasting way to lube them, so I got a bushing style adjustable track bar to replace it with.
It's your truck bro... you could pour slick50 in there for all I care! I just ask if you're going to do anything on my behalf you do it right -- or don't even do it at all! That means 93 or greater octane! Don't even mention my name around your truck at the pump unless your giving it the GOOD STUFF.
I don't drive the Mercedes... It needs paint! But otherwise it fires on the first crank and increases in value every year it sits there.
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My Mercedes-Benz 560 SEL has 9.0:1 compression ratio... I have a US spec 560.
HOWEVER, if I had a Euro 300HP version it would be 10.0:1 and have adjustment knobs to retard the timing because in Europe you might be in areas that don't sell premium gas... these knobs basically knock the timing down.
Something for you to think about as a guy running +2A on his base timing.
-- Edited by SELLC on Wednesday 24th of July 2024 08:31:48 AM
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That 2A keyway allowed me to achieve stock valve timing as indicated by actually degreeing the camshaft. Ignition timing is also spec at 10 degrees btdc. I'm not doing anything crazy here.
That means the position of ZERO on your crank sprocket would be the EXACT same as a regular non-indexed chain and sprocket kit.
You do understand that, right? If you needed 2 degrees to bring that cam into spec -- the duration is longer than advertised... do you need me to explain what "advertised duration" means also?
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