Senate Dems revolt against DHS funding bill amid Minneapolis chaos, hiking government shutdown risk

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

RE: Will Democrats shut down the Government in two weeks?

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Just ICE huh? None of the other law enforcement agencies seem worried about Covid. And the people attracted to jobs in ICE don't seem to be the kind of people who believe in Covid, or vaccines, or that the Earth is a sphere.

I think that we should pass a law that states a federal law enforcement officer's department and badge number should be embroidered large and legible on the back of their uniforms. That way they can "protect themselves from covid" all they want and still be identifiable and responsible for their actions. And that a public database should exist where anyone can type in that badge number and see who that officer is, level of education, years of service, and whether they have any disciplinary actions or excessive force complaints against them. What do you think?

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Thursday 30th of October 2025 08:08:44 AM

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

I can see you have never had a visit from SWAT or any of the alphabet agencies before... have you?

Anyway, you get all that information from them in the complaint they file when you're standing tall before the man, aka Judge... usually the following morning.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

The thing is, the people arrested by ICE often never get to see a judge. That's why this is so important. If they can do it to them, they can do it to you.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

No PowerStroker... no they can't.

I'm not in the United States illegally! I was born in the USA and as such, I'm a United States citizen -- afforded certain inalienable rights...

Now these criminals who have entered the country illegally, or overstayed their visas... You know, the ones you Democrats try to protect and put before actual Americans so they can vote in your local state elections -- yeah, these people don't have no rights!

Not even the right to know who is street sweeping them!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

It takes a judge to determine whether someone is in the country illegally. It's not at the discretion of people who refuse to even show their face. There have been reported cases of American citizens being swept up in these actions, this is unacceptable.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Last I checked, Judges had to follow the law as well... an illegal immigrant is just that - illegal!

Furthermore, activists Judges who don't follow the law, or have bias in their rulings and overstep their authority are smacked down by higher courts.

I think in the case of some of these activist Judges they should be held accountable! Furthermore, the ones releasing dangerous criminals for assault and rape need to be held accountable much like an adult is when they let their kids run wild.

Who are you voting for Mayor, PowerStroker? You voting for Omar Fateh?

You see, the problem with self segregation is that eventually these illegals and really anyone with a Minnesota drivers license can vote in state elections...

Thus taking over cities and turning them into the shitholes they come from.

You're not too bright, are you PowerStroker?

Also, I should add... Any Americans caught up in sweeps that are protesting against ICE doing their jobs probably aught to be swept up. Look at what you guys did to J6'ers! You weren't worried about it back then!

Good thing you don't have any kids! Because you would be leaving them with a very big problem with your way of thinking!

-- Edited by SELLC on Thursday 30th of October 2025 08:26:04 PM

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Judges DO have to follow the law. What I'm saying is many of the people arrested for allegedly being here illegally aren't even brought before a judge at all, they are just disappeared without any judicial oversight. I don't live in Minneapolis so I don't get to vote for their mayor. J6ers committed crimes and were violent, people have the right to protest so long as they do so non violently. If liberals protest in a violent way, then they should be arrested too.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

If you are here illegally you really should not need any judicial oversight! They just need to be sent back from where they came!

It's really VERY simple!

The J6'ers were not violent at all when compared to what the Floyd protestors did in Minnesota! They burnt that town down! Furthermore it's been shown there were some 200 undercover in that mob!

So you don't live in the city, so you can't vote for Mayor... but lets say you did -- who would you vote for?

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

If not a judge, then who determines the legality of someone?

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
The J6'ers were not violent at all when compared to what the Floyd protestors did in Minnesota! They burnt that town down! Furthermore it's been shown there were some 200 undercover in that mob!
How many cops died and were injured as a result of the Floyd protests?
So you don't live in the city, so you can't vote for Mayor... but lets say you did -- who would you vote for?
I'm not familiar with the candidates, so probably whomever the party endorses.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Well it would seem a lot of your party are of the same mindset, at least in NYC where Zohran won Mayor.

Still too soon to call it for your pal Omar.

Democrats acting like there was some blue wave in tonights election when most all of them were hard-core blue strong holds.

I knew a Democrat was going to win in NYC, I just didn't know which one.. Zohran or Cuomo! There were two Democrats on the ballot -- one who won the primary, and another who didn't and had to run as an independent.

Republicans had a weak candidate -- which is to say he was pretty casper and not exactly as relatable as would be needed with NYC voters.

I guess now that the election is over and Democrats held on to their strong-hold they will probably fold and approve a clean CR so they can try to cling to Obamacare -- which is a mess!

Republicans should come out with something better! As I have said above.

-- Edited by SELLC on Wednesday 5th of November 2025 03:58:46 PM

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

I'd love to see a Republican plan, do you have a link to any legislative language for the Republican healthcare plan?

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Not yet... but it's for sure an opportunity for Trump and Republicans to shine and offer something even better!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

An opportunity they've been ignoring for over a decade.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

We had to wait that long so Democrats could finally see what was in that crap ass bill they called Obamacare.

That ugly monstrosity of a Presidential library in Chicago explains what a poor engineer Obama was/is!

Why would his healthcare plan be any different?

The wheels are falling off Obamacare! Its great hes still around to see it.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Obamacare is basically a scaled up version of what Governor Romney did in Massachusetts. Marjorie Taylor Greene seems to think the Obamacare subsidies should continue.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

MTG... pfft, I thought we traded her out for Fetterman?

Did you see the live broadcast today from Trump and the pharmaceutical companies and RFK Jr?

The deals were so good one of the executives from Ozempic passed out!

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Here we go again...

Senate Dems revolt against DHS funding bill amid Minneapolis chaos, hiking government shutdown risk

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/senate-dems-revolt-against-dhs-funding-bill-amid-minneapolis-chaos-dramatically-hiking-government-shutdown-ri

We're all tired of these Democrat shenanigans... it's not enough they turned Minnesota and NYC into a shithole -- now they want to drive the rest of the nation into the ground as well!

It's clear the Democrats are not good stewards of our taxpayer money! It's clear Democrats like to cheat in elections -- and it's clear that once again, Democrats will be responsible for shutting down the Government once again!

Guess you guys need another reminder from the electorate come mid-terms.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Welp... The Democrats did it again! The Government is now technically shut down.

Great job PowerStroker! Once the Government is opened back up Monday some group of Billionaires will donate enough money to keep DHS open.

This ain't over!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

I suppose these funding lapses could have been avoided if DHS didn't trample on Constitutional rights and murder citizens in the streets.

It's amazing how fast the right went from "don't tread on me" to "comply or die."

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

Elections have consequences. Cutesy times over.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Define "Cutsey time" ?

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

It's an election year... Government is back open!

Back to work!

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Although I did feel like "The save act" should have been slipped into the bill... you need an ID for everything else! You should need an ID to vote!

Republicans better turn out this November because should the Democrats get a majority in congress, it will be back to buying Lamborghini's for illegal immigrants!

I recently had to get a special "Enhanced License" in order to get on a domestic flight inside the US! So I damn sure expect that people voting in this country are citizens!

-- Edited by SELLC on Tuesday 3rd of February 2026 11:51:41 PM

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

I don't mind having people prove citizenship when they register to vote for the first time. The problem with the SAVE act is that the way it's currently written, it will disenfranchise any woman who got married and took her husbands name without also going to court for a legal name change. Most women don't do that, they simply go to the DMV with their marriage license and have their drivers license updated. The save ACT will prevent them from voting. Also, there is a provision where at the federal level, state voter rolls can be purged, which goes against state administration of elections as spelled out in the Constitution. If you guys fix those provisions in the language of the bill, it will probably pass as a standalone piece of legislation. But I have a feeling that the disenfranchisement of women from voting and partisan purging of state voter rolls is exactly the goal here.

Prove me wrong.

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Wednesday 4th of February 2026 03:39:59 PM

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

PowerStroker wrote:
I don't mind having people prove citizenship when they register to vote for the first time. The problem with the SAVE act is that the way it's currently written, it will disenfranchise any woman who got married and took her husbands name without also going to court for a legal name change. Most women don't do that, they simply go to the DMV with their marriage license and have their drivers license updated. The save ACT will prevent them from voting. Also, there is a provision where at the federal level, state voter rolls can be purged, which goes against state administration of elections as spelled out in the Constitution. If you guys fix those provisions in the language of the bill, it will probably pass as a standalone piece of legislation. But I have a feeling that the disenfranchisement of women from voting and partisan purging of state voter rolls is exactly the goal here.

Prove me wrong.

Um... okay, 1st off -- when Brandee got her "Enhanced License" this exact same obstacle was instantly defeated by simply showing her marriage certificate! So your claim above about women being disenfranchised is BS!

With regards to voter rolls being purged I will first require YOU to state the exact section of the Constitution where it says that purging voter rolls is not permitted for Federal elections! That makes as much sense as taking a sh!t right after a shower!

For Federal elections the Government SHOULD be purging voter rolls to ensure accuracy! Your reply is typical BS Democrat nonsense! You don't mind if people have to prove citizenship? I could care less if you or anyone else "minds"!

That is the way it's supposed to be!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Brandee couldn't be disenfranchised because the SAVE Act isn't law yet. And I didn't say voter rolls can't be purged for federal elections, I said state voter rolls can't be purged by the federal government. The states run their own elections thank you very much.

I'm just asking for a revision to the legislative language to make sure women can't be disenfranchised, and that states maintain their own voter rolls. Just because Brandee hasn't been disenfranchised yet, doesn't mean she couldn't be if the SAVE act passes in its current form. I'm looking out for her.

All it takes for this to become a bipartisan bill is a little bit of clarifying language, you must be on board with that right?

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Thursday 5th of February 2026 03:35:04 PM

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

PowerStroker wrote:
I don't mind having people prove citizenship when they register to vote for the first time. The problem with the SAVE act is that the way it's currently written, it will disenfranchise any woman who got married and took her husbands name without also going to court for a legal name change. Most women don't do that, they simply go to the DMV with their marriage license and have their drivers license updated. The save ACT will prevent them from voting. Also, there is a provision where at the federal level, state voter rolls can be purged, which goes against state administration of elections as spelled out in the Constitution. If you guys fix those provisions in the language of the bill, it will probably pass as a standalone piece of legislation. But I have a feeling that the disenfranchisement of women from voting and partisan purging of state voter rolls is exactly the goal here.

Prove me wrong.

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Wednesday 4th of February 2026 03:39:59 PM

Maybe if they want to exercise their right to vote they need to change their license. It's law most states. Stop whining and get ready for reality.

You cunts worried about getting shot in Minnie? No one has ever been shot if they stay home and don't interfere with federal agents removing criminals. You're pathetic.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Observing isn't interfering.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Observing you say?

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

No, that's ^^^ not what I mean by observation.

The video depicts willful destruction of government property. In that case, the solution would be to bring him before a judge to face charges.

My guess for Mr. Pretti's motive in this encounter, is that the people in that vehicle aren't actually in the business of following due process laws by bringing people before judges to face charges, but are instead just making people disappear. Two wrongs don't make a right, but the wrong done by the people in the vehicle is far, far worse.

One way you can tell who is more honorable in a situation, is to see who is concealing their identity.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

The people in that vehicle are on official business removing illegal immigrants from your state! They do not need a warrant, and the people they are making disappear from the streets have no right to due-process!

This situation has only brought itself on because bringing these people in front of your liberal Judges and retarded Jury pool does not result in anything but BILLIONS AND BILLIONS being stolen from assistance programs!

I'm sure all of the masked people who burnt down your city for Floyd were honorably concealing their identity in the riots... Face it PowerStroker! These ICE agents are wearing masks to protect themselves from your states woke mind virus!

Dude was clearly unhinged! Kicking tail lights out of a tax payer vehicle, spitting on the Agents... GTFOH

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
The people in that vehicle are on official business removing illegal immigrants from your state! They do not need a warrant, and the people they are making disappear from the streets have no right to due-process!
They need a judicial warrant to enter private property unless given consent. They do not need a warrant to conduct immigration enforcement in the public space... And EVERYONE in this country is entitled to due process whether they be a citizen or not.
This situation has only brought itself on because bringing these people in front of your liberal Judges and retarded Jury pool does not result in anything but BILLIONS AND BILLIONS being stolen from assistance programs!
That's a political issue that can be resolved with the political process, it's not something ICE is qualified to deal with, nor is it part of their legal mandate.
I'm sure all of the masked people who burnt down your city for Floyd were honorably concealing their identity in the riots... Face it PowerStroker! These ICE agents are wearing masks to protect themselves from your states woke mind virus!
If they are conducting themselves honorably and within the law, they have nothing to fear about their identities being known.
Dude was clearly unhinged! Kicking tail lights out of a tax payer vehicle, spitting on the Agents... GTFOH
As I said, charge him with destruction of government property and let the courts sort it out, that's the way it works.

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Sunday 8th of February 2026 07:58:13 PM

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Habeas corpus, Latin for "you have the body," is a fundamental legal procedure allowing prisoners or detainees to challenge their confinement's legality before a court, forcing authorities to justify holding them. As a crucial safeguard against arbitrary detention, it requires a prompt judicial review to determine if the detention violates constitutional or statutory rights.

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Sunday 8th of February 2026 07:56:53 PM

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

You come off as such a moron trying to make excuses for people here illegally -- who are also ripping off the country with their aid assistance scams.

I don't think you're grown up enough to even be voting, and I sure as hell don't want the rest of the country turning into the shithole that your state has quickly become.

Perhaps you just need to look in the mirror to see the problem?

I know people on crack that make more sense than you do! The people who have died in your state have died because of the ignorant stuff you and the Democrats tell them!

Someone is going to have to pay for the billions that were stolen -- I think we need a special tax on Minnesotans until such time the FULL AMOUNT is paid back with interest!

In the meantime, ICE needs to keep clearing out more and more of these illegals -- along with making voting more secure so you cheats can't cheat anymore!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Elections are in no way part of ICE's jurisdiction. In fact, it would be illegal for them to even show up to a polling place in uniform as it would violate existing voter intimidation laws.

Are you at all concerned with the $20 Billion Trump gave Argentina without any vote in Congress about it? I believe that is MORE than whatever fraud took place in MN.

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Monday 9th of February 2026 03:36:38 PM

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

No... Argentina paid back the $20 billion already!

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/argentina-has-repaid-us-currency-swap-deal-2026-01-09/

Now when will your state be cutting a check for the money you stole?

With regards to voter intimidation laws -- since when did you guys ever follow the law?

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Minnesota didn't steal the money, individual people did, and they are being prosecuted. Hopefully they will be forced to pay restitution.

Besides, it's less than 10 billion, that's a petty cash rounding error around here.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Well, if $10 billion is a petty cash rounding error in Minnesota then we should be seeing a check very soon!

ICE is in your state because the rest of the nation does not share your confidence in holding these criminals accountable.

The sooner you guys get your sh!t in order, the sooner the Feds can pull out! I'll be anxiously awaiting an article about how MN has re-paid it's money owed!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

ICE doesn't investigate or have any jurisdiction over financial crimes, they only deal with immigration violations.

If this was truly about fraud, Trump would send in investigators from Treasury and main Justice, why isn't he? If you truly want the money back you should send the right people.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Like I told you in the other thread, ICE comes in and cleans up -- then the bean counters come in. It's totally possible the bean counters have been there since ICE arrived and you haven't even noticed.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

What are they "cleaning up" exactly, brown people?

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Ummm... Walz and Frey are pretty casper looking to me!

BTW, the SAVE act passed the House today -- no thanks to Democrats!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Walz and Frey haven't been arrested by ICE, because unless they specifically obstruct official ICE operations, they can't be.

Now, if you really think Walz and Frey have been involved in fraud, there are federal authorities that could investigate and prosecute them. Treasury and Main Justice come to mind. So if it's truly about fraud, why aren't investigators from Treasury and Main Justice here?

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Your whole state is corrupt... yourself included. biggrin