Rastus wrote:

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Yo,

Shawnee said....

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There is NO threat of WW-III, no threat of nuclear war, just false flags and distractions.
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+1 here Sir !

( One may even think that the Military Corporate Industrial Complex is clearing out old-stock-warehouse items, to make way for new ones, especially with the near 1-Trillion Dollar DoD budget this year )...

*(To imagine a quote from Uncle Sam at the moment, on behalf of AUKUS & 5-Eye's )....

"Sell, sell, sell / fire, fire, fire-away !!! Use everything all up, new stocks coming soon"...

Too bad for all the folks in Europe ( & possibly State-side ) breathing-in all that D.U.

But business is business.

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 Using up that depleted uranium ammo isn't such a good idea.

I must admit... Obama being banned from Russia does give him an almost 2Pac "Gangsta" image...

Do people on this earth even exist anymore who could handle carving a new face into Mount Rushmore? Some say safety regulations alone would prevent anything like it from being done in the future...

Such a shame... the pussification of America! 

But if it keeps Obama's face off the side of Mount Rushmore, I guess it's for the better!

Lindsey Graham has challenged Putin to appear at the Hague to see who has an arrest warrant out on them...

I wonder if Putin is gonna show up?

It's a whole new world today Rastus...

But I'll give Eisenhower this, I been in the game since 1975 and so much has changed since then -- but it's still the same game!

And I might add, Rastus... that Putin claims to be putting nuclear missles in Belarus in July!

Never mind the dude in charge there in Belarus is rumored to be just getting over a serious poisoning... 

But what does that matter... the guy who objected to Putin extending his term beyond the statutory maximum at the time had either a piano or a safe somehow fall on his head... check it out if you like... they might not report that stuff on counterpunch!

Oh, I see... no little line item and numberd response for that line of questioning above, huh?

So you're banned from the mainland, Rastus? Is that the way of it?

Rastus wrote:

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Stellar007 wrote:

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1. Oh, I see... no little line item and numbered response for that line of questioning above, huh?

2. So you're banned from the mainland, Rastus? Is that the way of it?

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R1. I can only repeat myself 100-or-more-times Stellar, before I even get sick of doing-it again & again...People like Shawnee are wiser, where they post once, short & sweet, & then grab the pop-corn & burbon, & watch the fun...

R2. Even on this little island, the Police & politicians are corrupted to the core, but it's far worse on the mainland...I choose to stay here simply because my home state of Victoria seemed to be the beta-testing-station for the world-wide COrona VIrus Disease 2019 enforcement's...I was so disappointed with the way people were treated, I couldn't give a rats-ass about the gov't there...They need to see what happened in Minnesota & learn imo.

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A1. Shawnee might have his moments... but he's still an American! He's is as good as some, better than most... you say short and sweet, but really... it's ben DECADES we been in these forums! Lot's of Scotch and Marlboro's! And yes, it's fun... 

A2. I don't even know what "little island" that is exactly, but it would seem you left somewhere under a cloud... Minnesota? That's a long way from Transylvania! 

Nobody: Knock-Knock

Putin : Who is there?

Nobody :

Me thinks me knows where that $6.2 billion dollar accounting error was spent!

I don't want to sound like a pessimist, but you been saying the same thing for years about Nuke plants and all I see them doing is opening up new ones all over the country and re-comissoninig closed reacotrs or extending the leases on older ones still running!

Really the world does not know what the USA has... The USA didn't have to show anyone anything until WWII!

I should also note the movie Oppenheimer is due out in theaters this July... if that's not interesting enough for you, Barbie is being released the same day.

Russia is Russia... I'm not one bit envious of Snowden or Steven Segal, or anyone else who wants to live there.

If Russia was as strong or smart as you suggest Rastus, this war would have been over by now and Zelenskyy captured or killed long before he could network with the rest of the world for all the aid he has gotten!

Personally I think Ukraine should have to re-emburse us for the aid, but how the hell they going to do that in the middle of a war with Russia? And then after the war is over Ukraine will just get chummy with Russia again and stiff us on re-payment. I think this back and fourth has been going on for quite some time now, this is just the first time Russia has moved on Ukraine is all... 

SELLC wrote:

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1. Well it's like I said, this is the first time Russia has moved on Ukraine like this, so perhaps there will never again be a back and fourth after all this bloodshed. 

2. Honestly I don't even think a new leader in Russia is going to repair the damage done to relations between Russia and Ukraine... but then again, look at Japan and the USA's relationship since WWII...

3. No doubt Russia has nukes, and in a nuclear war nobody wins! But as far as Russia's ground game, I'd have to agree with PowerStroker! They have lost a lot, and I'm none to impressed.

-- Edited by SELLC on Sunday 2nd of July 2023 09:21:27 PM

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R1. The Ukraine was annexed by the USSR for years, & then "freed" in the 1990's when the USSR became Russia once again. The main issue with this war was the white-supremacist-Nazi infiltration into the Ukraine gov't, & the NATO missiles that were illegally placed. There's also a desert-like National Park above the main target city in the Ukraine, that has sea-port access. I've forgotten its name but it may be Eupatoria. It's understood by many, that a Space-Craft lies under the sands of this National Park, & everyone wants to get at it first, for speculative reasons.

R2. And don't forget Stellar, Russia was an ally in WW-II, not an enemy. They became the enemy after Germany's senior scientists were taken to the US-of-A under operation "Paper-clip" as guided by Allen Dulles. So advanced were the Germans in their space technologies...Everything is about UFO's & the ET's my friend.

R3. This is a contrived & staged war, for lots of reasons apart from money, that I've again indicated above.

Yo,

Here you go PowerStroker...Here's a few quotes first-up, followed by a link to the article, & there's plenty of articles...


qt."That there is a not insignificant neo-Nazi component in the Ukrainian political scene shouldnt be denied. Nor can it be refused this was given large and visible expression in proportion to its size, mobilizing against the Russians in 2014 and again in 2022. The notorious Azov regiment, formed in 2014 (Azov battalion) in order to battle pro-Russian forces in the Donbass War, is a group that has flaunted neo-Nazi symbolism through the use of swastikas and other fascist imagery. And from within a much broader set of popular protests, one might well expect an ultra-nationalist, ultra-right wing tendency to flare up, especially in the context of a foreign invasion that is certain to provoke a great swell of patriotic sentiment. At the same time, however, one should remember that the Azov regiment is estimated to have from 900-2500 members. The Ukrainian military as a whole, including soldiers, border guards and the National Guard numbers over 300,000. The Azov regiment, therefore, constitutes a remarkably small percentage in the overall balance of forces".

"The logic is once again simple and crude in its outline; the US wants the Russians out of Ukraine in terms of their own imperial interests, you want the Russians out of Ukraine; ergo, you must be in favour of US imperialism. Ive lost count of times that I have been told that Im a supporter of US government or in the pay of the CIA (like they would have me), or that I have swallowed wholesale the lies of the globalists. This last one, by the way, comes up more and more frequently, and it is perhaps no great coincidence. Naturally, if the only binaries are those that open up between great state actors, and if the majority of people on the ground are mere dupes then it becomes that much easier for the anti-imperialist position to coalesce into the conspiratorial one, for the conspiracy theory works to condense and merge the array of state actors from above into a single transcendental power the globalists, the New World Order and so on. In the same moment, the power of the majority of ordinary people is reduced to nowt, in as much as they become the mere empty-headed playthings of the entity behind the curtain, the one pulling the strings".

www.counterpunch.org/2022/12/02/267301/

PowerStroker wrote:

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1. Is Zelenskyy a Nazi?

2. We have plenty of neo-Nazis right here in the US, and the ones that voted, voted for Trump. In fact, per capita I'll bet we have significantly more of them than Ukraine ever thought of having.

3.Why didn't Putin invade us if de-Nazification is really his goal?

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R1. Who really knows ??? A puppet for sure regardless...

R2. Sorry about that sad-state-of-affairs...Apparently we have them here too, & in numbers also.

R3. Putin is still a puppet too, though a powerful one. He's ultimately playing a game on behalf of the "cabal", that's in its death-throws...

Here's some more quotes from the same article...

qt."Most people, I think, share this sensibility. They understand we are dealing with a vastly powerful country and a tyrannical dictator at its head, reigning down fire on a smaller country in a violent attempt to occupy and annex it.  In England, where I live, it is quite common to see images of the Ukrainian flag adorning cars or houses as an expression of solidarity.  I appreciate that some of this will inevitably be an expression of anti-Russian prejudice channelled through bellicose British patriotism.  There are deep seams of that to be mined here in a post-Brexit, post-empire UK, for sure.  Russia is a country that our politicians are forever urging us to revile while allowing the financial wares of its billionaire oligarchy and those connected with it to fill the coffers of the Conservative and Labour parties alike.  Not to mention the grip that Russian finance has on London and the elite property market there".

"In this account, then, the poles become reversed; it is no longer the case that Russia is enacting a violent and bloody war of occupation in fact it turns out that the more diminutive Ukraine is the real threat here, and it is the Russians who are acting in terms of self-defence.  The US and NATO, having progressively encircled Russian territory for years, are looking to infiltrate Ukraine, to ensure it becomes a member of NATO, and thus fortify the power levelled against Russia.  Many of these accounts argue that the Euromaidan protests of 2013 which eventually led to the overthrow of the then president Viktor Yanukovych were simply orchestrated by Washington in order to overthrow a democratically elected leader.  But this account has key limits".

"It is hardly deniable that the US government and NATO are pressing their own interests.  And it is also true that US imperialism is surely the most wide-ranging and extensive strain at work in the modern world today, given the control of markets the US secures often through puppet dictatorships and the sheer number of bases it has accrued across the world, alongside the overwhelming military hardware that adorns these".

"But, since the dissolution of the USSR, Russia itself has hardly been slack in terms of its own international and internal incursions.  Since 1991 it has invaded, occupied or attacked Moldova, Georgia, Chechnya, Syria and Ukraine.  Many of these assaults were about supressing independence movements; Moldova had proclaimed independence and, in response, Russia occupied Transnistria which was already home to a Russian military base. In Russia itself, the Chechen independence movement was furiously suppressed in two wars involving more than a decades worth of bloody violence".

It becomes quite clear to me, how the "cabal" operate, divide & conquer via confusion & fake news day-to-day, to hide the real agenda's of the elite.

SELLC wrote:

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You make a good point! I too thought perhaps disinformation at first too -- just like when he said he was going to march on Moscow... 

I think it's very possible he could have staged it... but the odds are he's dead, because we haven't heard from him -- and really there was no point in faking his death because he's a very recognizable fellow. Although some people still think 2Pac and Elvis are still alive!

Long live the King! 

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 No proof of anything, no body. On a passenger list? OK but took a different plane? There is more to him and Putin and what's going on.