Yo,

Don't you guys think its perfectly clear that the Deep State selected Elon & his electric-car bullshyte, & made him famous & lots of money, because he served their purpose better than Toyota, & the Water powered vehicles they have had since 2014 ?...And that you didn't know about ?...

1. Elon serves the deep state, that is clear...In fact, he's likely an honorary member now, & frequents the Bohemian Grove sausage festivals every year.

2. His cars source lithium which needs green-lights from land-owners & mines, all owned by the "elite"...

3. He lied about his charging stations being self energizing, relying on your "grid" & nuke-plants to support the power-needs.

4. All the cameras are proving to be spying devices on the general public

5. He was allowed to do this since it kept the old-guard in business, whilst fooling the population of advancement in clean energy & cars...All bullshyte.

6. As for his 1930's rockets, well, they're 1930's rockets...Once again, keeping you fooled, & the old-guard in the business...

7. As for his "Twitter", its the perfect place for free advertising of Deep State mind-control, & spying on the masses as they post their stupor, & even pay for it...


And yet, nothing mentioned or even discussed in here about a car that's powered by water.

I thought it was about a Hydrogen powered car? There already working hydrogen cars operating in California where they actually have a fueling infrastructure. They have hydrogen fuel cell vehicles which convert hydrogen into electricity to run an electric motor, there are also hydrogen powered internal combustion engines which are less efficient.

It takes an enormous amount of energy to separate hydrogen from water, I doubt they are filling the cars fuel tank with water and having the car somehow do that separation, because where does the huge amount of energy come from to perform that electrolysis? Most likely they are filling the vehicle with pure hydrogen that has already separated from water offsite, or more likely, hydrogen extracted from natural gas which takes far less energy.

Not so fast PowerStroker... vacuum at 29.9 inches of mercury will boil water at room temperature. Of course this would be fine in hot climates, but it would still present a serious challenge in Northern states that dip below freezing -- or at least well below 72 degrees from late October on through the winter. It would also be a big challenge to keep said water from freezing solid in temps 32 degrees F and under. No doubt changing the waters freezing point would also change many other factors in the process as well.

But even still, hydrogen powered cars have been around for quite some time in various stages of experimentation and not just exclusively from Toyota. 

Actually water will boil at 72F at 29.12 inches of mercury (vacuum)

Water will boil at 6F at 29.87 inches of mercury!

So I guess it does not even matter if water is frozen... it will boil off even in single digits if the vacuum is high enough!

But don't just take my word for it...

https://www.shipcopumps.com/tools/mathwizard/index.php?category=npsh&id=boiling-points

Hydrogen is a gas... there are many methods to seperate hydrogen from water.

https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-production-electrolysis

It's relevant because steam has been used to power things since before fuel! Steam is also a gas, and when pressurized and valve controled it has great power.

Using vaccum to turn water into a gas may decrease the amount of electricity needed for said process of making hydrogen out of water.

For ANYTHING to run on water, it must actually run on water -- without separating! IE: Steam!

Vehicles turning water into hydrogen don't really run on water... they run on hydrogen. 

 

 

 

-- Edited by SELLC on Friday 20th of September 2024 09:43:57 PM

Rastus wrote:

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Yo,

Stellar...

1. You pour water into the cars fuel tank...Ergo, it's a water powered car as far as that goes.

Pressure & temperature are directly proportional to each other. Very important basic physics, but I understand that you may not have done any of this at school.

eg. Temperature goes up, pressure goes up too...Temperature goes down, pressure goes down too.

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I'm sorry Rastus, but when you pour water into a vehicle with the reality that there is a device to extract hydrogen from said water -- that means it runs on hydrogen. 

What you have is a mobile hydrogen maker! 

With regards to schooling, well... my school was just fine! In fact, I graduated mostly because of my automotive career with co-op credits my senior year! Only went to class 1/2 day and worked the other half for credits needed. I'd say they did pretty good considering I have been in this profession since graduation! 

And while chemistry, physics and science were not my majors, my business and mechanical were -- and here is what they tell me, even if I know it's going to piss you off! Do you know what the best and cheapest way to make hydrogen is? With the assistance of a nuclear reactor in the cooling phase! Suck it up buttercup! It's time for you to go right back to school, maggot!  Toyota will be undercut by companies selling hydrogen powered vehicles with a much less expensive hydrogen tank, refilling it and paying them much like we do with gasoline, electricity -- or whatever the hell else they think up next!

Yo,

Stellar said....
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qt.1."I'm sorry Rastus, but when you pour water into a vehicle with the reality that there is a device to extract hydrogen from said water -- that means it runs on hydrogen".

2."What you have is a mobile hydrogen maker"!

3."With regards to schooling, well... my school was just fine"!

4."In fact, I graduated mostly because of my automotive career with co-op credits my senior year"!

5."Only went to class 1/2 day and worked the other half for credits needed".

6."I'd say they did pretty good considering I have been in this profession since graduation"!

7."And while chemistry, physics and science were not my majors, my business and mechanical were -- and here is what they tell me, even if I know it's going to piss you off"!

8."Do you know what the best and cheapest way to make hydrogen is"?

9."With the assistance of a nuclear reactor in the cooling phase"!

10"Suck it up buttercup! It's time for you to go right back to school, maggot"!

11."wink Toyota will be undercut by companies selling hydrogen powered vehicles with a much less expensive hydrogen tank, refilling it and paying them much like we do with gasoline, electricity -- or whatever the hell else they think up next"!

12."And neither you or Toyota have explained how they are going to deal with waters freezing point in cold climates".

13."Maybe they will introduce a vacuum in the water tank? As I am sure any additives used would only serve to make a mess of the cathodes other such electrodes... that is if the scale doesn't get to them first"!

14."You ever seen a cathode in a hot water heater after about 5 years"?
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ROTFLMAO !!! For nearly a week, our host ignores the Water-powered-vehicle, now he's wanting to explain the low-down, & me answer questions that are kept in the Patent world lol !!!


R1. Apology accepted. But it's Toyota advertising the car as water powered, take your issue up with them Einstein.

R2. Whatever. What you have, is no more gas-bill yo ! And no pollution.

R3. Swell.

R4. Swell.

R5. Now you're talkin'.

R6. I don't judge people.

R7. Stellar, I'm happily semi-retired, how about you ?

R8. I never looked into it, since your gov't murders people for doing so.

R9. I'm sure there are countless ways Stellar...What exactly is this "cooling phase" of which you speak ?

R10. I have a Bachelors in Marine Engineering, that secures me an annual income of over 200-K US-dollars, & you want me to go to school ?...

R11. Only after paying for the Patents to do so...

R12. Alcohol.

R13. You're the mechanic, you tell me...I'm simply a Marine Engineer Officer.

R14. You'll save a lot of money a year not having to pay for gas, so who cares, something has to break yes ?....And it would likely be technical-water to be used in the filling-up of said vehicle, to prevent the early onset of corrosion. Technical-water is pure water, & it can be collected from your cars evaporator pipe, or any water dump from an air-conditioning unit. That's a free-be for you Stellar !

-- Edited by Rastus on Saturday 21st of September 2024 08:08:06 PM

SELLC wrote:

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1.You talk a lot about nuclear reactors to not know what the cooling phase is. Perhaps you don't know as much as you thought?

2.That is what it looks like to me.

3.And FYI -- you're either retired or you're not retired... this is also one of them things where you have to pick a side, or crack your nuts on the fence switching sides to whichever has the greener grass.

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R1. You made the statement Stellar, & yet appear to be looking for another free-be, since you can't answer my query...Are we discussing reactor cores or spent-fuel ?

R2. You don't work hard, or bother to study & learn from books. This means your retention levels are low. Re-read the juicy bits in the Fuku thread.

R3. I'm retired Stellar. But to the people forking out gov't cheese, I'm busy looking for work...So I'm 1/2-way, semi-retired yo !

-- Edited by Rastus on Wednesday 25th of September 2024 07:33:13 PM

SELLC wrote:

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1.Are you kidding me? 

2.Any point where the water is being heated to the point most conducive to seperating hydrogen from water! I don't know the deatails of which is more optimum, but it has been suggested that such byproduct of nuclear energy generation (heat) could be used to elementate cost of said process. You figure it out! 

3.I work harder than most Rastus. You just don't see it because the amount of time for me to post it up in here isn't available to me anymore since the kid and my help have moved on. I'm no longer able to spend as much time educating people as I used to... there is a great number of threads I would like to create from newer VVT and VVL systems (brand specific because I've been doing them all lately) and even the C8 Corvette write up -- although you do have some details of that early in another thread, because otherwise you wouldn't even know about it.

4.I'm not retired Rastus... I imagine I'll be like RBG and they will have to haul my lifeless corpse out of my work. I enjoy working with and learning the new technology that comes out! Sure, it's a MAJOR PITA -- but there is something very satisfying in reparing something that is broken... I just wished I had more time and energy to document and share it! Currently I use this place as my recreational hang out, I don't get out much -- nor do I want to anymore. So I come in here and a few other places on the internet to fulfill them sorts of desires and share what I can when I can.

5.t's really none of my business, your finances. I'm not trying to make it my business either -- I'm just telling you the vibe I'm getting from your posts over the years. It's purely speculative, and solely for entertainment. I have no idea your financials -- you could just be another cheap ass billionaire making sure you're getting your cut from the gubernment. Cool... You could be totally broke living life in the moment day by day. Cool... It really matters very little here in this digital existence we call a forum.

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Yo,

R1. Never, just playing the "mirror-game"...But to answer the core questions, (a) Nuclear reactors have control-rods that move in & out of the core, that's immersed within "dirty" water. These control the state of the nuclear reaction...Move them in & the reaction lessens & water cools, pull them out, & reaction increases along with the heat. (b) Spent fuel is generally stored on-site at the nuclear plant, generally within the building itself above the reactor, in a cooling-pool. Once the pool is full, the spent fuel is transferred into often a tin-shed on-site with another ( often unmonitored ) cooling pool for further long-term storage. At some point, it's either reprocessed for another fuel cycle with the Plutonium extracted for weapons-use & sale on the black market, or it gets buried at places like the WIPP in NM, or in the ocean, or now Australia...

R2. In a Nuke-plant, everything fissioning is held in a high-pressure containment vessel. The heated "dirty" water then interfaces with a heat exchanger & heat is then transferred to "clean" water, that boils & is turned into high-pressure super-heated steam. This then turns a turbine-wheel, that has an alternator on the other end of its shaft that generates electricity very poorly.

R3. You forget Stellar that I bagged-the-shyte out of the new "Vette when it was released because of the bogus HP claims, attributed to the use of electric motors. I'm pretty sure I was the first to post on this matter.

No doubt you work hard, everyone does.

R4. It's your web-site Stellar...Personally, I'd drop all the Twitter bullshyte & the other sites you frequent. It's not good having a host that lives in virtual reality.

R5. It matters little to me discussing my affairs, though I'm wise enough to know my limits. I don't bullshyte either, there' too much of that in the world, so I understand your suspicious & negative mindset to a degree. I do however insist on getting over negative-catalyst quickly, & the victim-saviour-prosecutor triad of living a life, & do what you can to be your best.

Big changes are in the works, & lots of shyte to come, especially after the election, even if things seem poor now. I do recommend CE-5, opening ones mind to a wider panorama, & doing whatever needs to be done to break-away from the mind-control inflicted on your persons. A successful CE-5 will do this, or spending time with Mary or the others in the Spirit thread. The time is now to act.

-- Edited by Rastus on Thursday 3rd of October 2024 06:16:19 AM

BTW - Elon and his SpaceX just managed to catch a heavy booster with a lobster claw... I think Elon and the World as a whole is sending WAY TOO MUCH of our rare elements into space -- but I suppose if SOMEONE can figure out how to mine an astroid to replace that what has been ejected into space, then perhaps we have a chance. 

Be we will see...

I was just kidding Rastus... besides, I get home sick very quickly. 

What do you think of this newer sample? A preponderance of bass, or a fresh take on a classic?