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The Supreme Court didn't intervene in the election because there was no credible evidence of wrongdoing on the scale that would have changed the result. People being upset with the result isn't good enough reason to do anything. "Us guys" have nothing to do with it, it's the US department of justice, and at least 2 state prosecutors.

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I'm sorry PowerStroker -- BUT THAT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH! 

Even if only ONE STATE was guilty of tampering or otherwise rigging an election -- that would be reason enough for the SOCTUS to intervene! Your theory that not enough states that Trump needed to flip in order to win set the bar higher than SCOTUS was willing to go is absolute BULLSH!T! There was some SHADY stuff going on here in Michigan -- and some of it was even caught on video! Not to mention elections inspectors being denied the ability to inspect ballots! 

I'll say it again, it's not Trump who is responsible for J6 -- it's the SCOTUS' inaction to the countless lawsuits that were filed by the states! Had the SCOTUS stepped up and took on the cases then I don't think we would have seen J6! 

You can say what you want, but things are only going to get worse at elections from here on out until a more trustworthy system is found! Used to be we would all know who won the election by the end of the night! Not anymore! Too many people cheating! The cheating that I'm talking about is mail in ballots, where there is absolutly no oversight of the voter! The head of any household could harvest and fill out the ballots without anyone getting wise! This can still happen at the polls, but not on the scale that it happened in our last election! 

The Presidency is SERIOUS business PowerStroker! If people can't make time to go in and vote under the watchful eyes of the polling volunteers -- then they really shouldn't be voting at all! Save for deployed service personel and the very elderly, mail in voting for all is nothing more than a HUGE blow to the rights of people to vote freely in the household, especially the young and venerable!

Just keep in mind that everything that is happening to Trump WILL happen to other Presidents from here on out. If Biden and the Democrats are unable to keep this economy floating until the next election, and a bad recession hits -- Trump will be back in there and the shoe on the other foot. Of course by then Biden will claim to have dementia or something, so he is un-fit for trial... the narrative is already being put out there.

Things in Government are seriously out of hand right now! We have people serving into their 80's and 90's! That Senator from California, Dianne Feinstein for example -- she has given power of attorney to her daughter, yet is still voting in congress? WTF? And how about that useless Fetterman guy who was elected and spent most of his time in office at Walter Reed for depression? Do you think Mitch McConnell was just trying to draw attention to these things when he had his mini-stroke on TV? We have serious problems in our Government with regards to fitness and old age. How about RBG who pretty much died on the bench, spending most of her time in the hospital and clogging up the SCOTUS? She should have stepped down LONG before then, but these people don't do that! They cling to power and get rich making inside trades and you don't seem to care one bit.

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the SCOTUS is the court of last appeal, not the first stop. The frivolous claims of which you speak didn't even pass muster through the Federal Circuit or Appellate courts. Further, SCOTUS doesn't run elections, the states do. If a state has a problem with their election, it's settled through the individual state courts which actually have jurisdiction over such matters.

Do you guys really have no better candidate than Trump? Can't you find ANYONE who isn't corrupt and constantly drowning in scandal, which Trump was long before he ever went into politics.

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I never suggested they went directly to the SCOTUS... many of the lawsuits did indeed start off in State court, but you know how State courts stick up for the State... anyway, what cases did make it to the SCOTUS to be "considered" on appeal were ignored. I stand by my thoughts that the SCOTUS was in a no-win situation and it was just easier for them to look the other way and let Biden and the States have their way. You can deny it, but the fact there was no SOCTUS ruling on the matter is why J6 happened. The other half of the country didn't feel they got their day in court! 

Trump is the front runner for the Republican Party... I find it funny you gaslighting so much in one thread... You know damn well it's the GOP voters who picks the candidate in the Primaries! There is a vote, and whoever wins that vote is traditionally the winner and can run as President for the GOP. If you guys don't like Trump so much, you should all go in on the primaries and ask for the Republican ballot and vote for someone else! That is what you guys were broadcasting to do on local radio news channels the first time Trump ran for office! Biden is the incumbent, there will be no need for Democrats to vote in the primaries anyway! With regards to scandal, well buddy... You guys have some skeletons in the closet, and this new deal with Iran getting another $6 billion for hostages reminds me of Obama giving Iran planes full of cash in the dead of the night. I have no clue why Democrats like giving Iran money all the time! NONE!

 



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Every state gets to set its own election policies within basic federal guidelines, SCOTUS didn't see any legitimate cases that required a Constitutional question to be resolved, the lower courts had it handled. SCOTUS declines the vast majority of cases that are presented to it, letting stand the appellate court rulings unless they see an unsettled Constitutional question, there was no such issue here, and thus they didn't involve themselves.

You have the right to bring a case to them, and they have the right to tell you to pound sand because the lower courts already ruled correctly. Being unhappy with a lower court ruling isn't a sufficient cause of action.

My disappointment is that Trump is leading in your party when you have far better choices without all of the fascism and baggage. It's as if you guys want the biggest most corrupt asshole you can find, why is that?

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I know how the SCOTUS works PowerStroker... and I also know that they felt it was better to let Trump go down for calling attention to a serious matter that threatens our Republic than to get involved themselves. They are ALL only human, and all of them are living way above the people they are placed there by to make important choices. They started kicking the can down the road like everyone else... and that is far from Supreme! If I were Trump, I'd have nothing but CONTEMPT for the courts right now! 

I've been pretty disappointed at the direction your party has been going the last six months, talk about baggage! It's as if you guys want the biggest most corrupt asshole you can find, why is that?

 



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Biden doesn't strike me as corrupt, hell, you were even praising him not too long ago.

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Yes I was, but the past few months I have been having serious concerns with the direction your party is taking this country!

- Democrats paying MORE money to Iran for hostages, AGAIN!

- Democrats prosecuting their political opponents (Trump) both in Federal, and now in Democrat leaning State courts! Why did they wait 2 1/2 years? They did to to interfere with the election! That's crooked shit!

- Democrats bringing RICO charges against Rudy and ALL of Trumps inner circle?

This is just out of hand now... NEVER BEFORE IN HISTORY have we seen this kind of thing! EVER! 

And I don't think I have to remind you the allegations around Biden and Hunter in Ukraine during the Obama administration! And now we are sending Ukraine BILLIONS of dollars, on the verge of war with Russia? 

I don't like the way ANY of this looks, and as I have said in the past -- every time a Democrat gets in there it's okay at first, but then they take things WAY TOO FAR! Why?

I'm even seeing talk about a COVID re-imgergance... 

So yeah... I'm a little concerned!



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No Democrat ordered Garland to prosecute Trump, though many in both parties encouraged such prosecution after the events of January 6th. We fully respect the non partisan independence of the Justice Department.

If Hunter has done some shady shit, he should be prosecuted too, but just like in Trump's case, nobody should order or prevent the Justice Department from doing anything. Follow the facts and law wherever they lead, and if they lead to a corrupt partisan, then prosecute them like anybody else.

The reason for so many unprecedented events, is because it's a reaction to alleged unprecedented behavior by a former POTUS. Belonging to a political party does not immunize one against prosecution, nor should it. This is not a partisan prosecution, in fact, I'd bet you real money that the vast majority of the witnesses called by the prosecution, will be registered Republicans who will swear under oath to the wrongdoing they witnessed.

I hope these trials are televised so people can see the truth for themselves.



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You know PowerStroker, this all goes back to the boy who cried wolf... there has been so many partisan fabrications from the start of Trumps 1st day in office that it's really hard to trust anything at this point.

Trump has had many in the GOP turn against him, often times because they were RINO's or just didn't like Trump... offering constructive criticism, or saying mean things aren't the same as some of these folks who are trying to bring him down.

I just don't see how we had a guy like Trump be President for four years and then now, all of a sudden 2 1/2 years later he's a criminal? Nah...

And this thing in Georgia where they say Trump told his people to find some 11,000 votes, and that somehow translates to conspiracy? If someone is short $11,000 you tell them they better FIND the money! These cases are all very weak, and many of them seem like nothing more than retaliation for having the gull to even question the election results. I don't like what I am seeing, it reminds of times I have gotten run up by crooked courts and a jury full of partisan idiots out to get the guy from the next town over... aka the "Autozone" ordeal. I also think a LOT of people in this country feel the same way in their own experences with the courts, and deep down they are relating with Trump...

I'll agree with you, if something is proven then fine -- but if it can't be proven then this was all politically driven and "Trumped" up! Don't you think the cabal (Democrats) who were likley behind this (like all the other ones) should be held accountable? We're talking RICO stuff here PowerStroker! I just don't see how anyone comes back from this! It's politcally driven! I mean for gawds sake, Hillary was on Rachel Mad-Cow laughing about this!

These trials HAVE to be televised! It's matter of public trust at this point... 



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I just don't see how we had a guy like Trump be President for four years and then now, all of a sudden 2 1/2 years later he's a criminal? Nah...


 

Well, it seems the people randomly selected to serve on all of the grand juries are concluding that he was a criminal all along and should stand trial accordingly. The odds of randomly selecting all Democrats to serve on a grand jury is almost impossible... But we are talking SEVERAL grand juries across the country. This isn't a partisan prosecution, it's justice.

 



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Really?

Name ONE that isn't in a Democrat district... I'll wait.



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Democratic district does not mean 100% of its people are Democrats, it means a slight to moderate majority of them are. Is it your belief that everybody on all of the grand juries happens to be a Democrat? You gotta be kidding me.

If this were a partisan thing, they wouldn't use a grand jury at all, it would be a direct indictment. The fact that they are showing evidence to a randomly selected grand jury and letting them decide whether to indict or not, is proof that this isn't a partisan prosecution. Further proof is the fact that Jack Smith filed the classified documents charges in a very red area, knowing full well that Aileen Cannon might be chosen as the judge, when he could have filed those charges in blue D.C. Where the crime of document theft actually happened. People are bending over backward to make sure this isn't partisan, and you just don't see it.

Your party has far better people than Trump. Chris Christie for example. He's also a macho prick, but at least he respects democracy. Why don't you guys pick someone like that?

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Ah-hem... a Grand Jury is not open in it's selection of Jurors, and there is nobody from the defense to voir dire them to establish bigotry, political affiliation -- or even competence for that matter! It's a behind the curtian affair! The courts can select anyone they want and we would never know because again, it's behind closed doors! So don't give me any of your liberal BS, I know how it works -- and this BS only seems to happen in very liberal districts! I've seen it with my own eyes, it's VERY REAL. There is nothing a bigoted sh!t fu@k liberal loves more than contaminating a Jury! 

This IS a partisan thing, and you know damn well they have to use a Grand Jury to indict! Jack Smith didn't file his charges in DC because he knows damn well it would have been a waste of time as the case would have been kicked back to Florida for improper venue! The only thing bending over backwards here is the law, as your band of liberal RICO criminal prosecutors and attorneys fist fu@k the rule of law with this mockery of justice!

There is NOBODY in the Republican party better than Trump at pissing off liberals... NOBODY! And that alone is reason enough to love the guy! The man literally hops up on the table and pisses in their cheerio's! And they love him for it, they even ask him to come back the following day and do it again!



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Unlike trial juries where the prosecution and defense can both reject jurors after interviewing them, grand jurors are randomly selected by the county... My mom was randomly picked to be on a grand jury, and the prosecutors in that case had no idea what her politics were. A juror that lives up to their oath will always put their duty ahead of any political considerations. Anyway, no prosecutor is going to ask for a grand jury unless they feel they have enough evidence to make a conviction. A prosecutor cares a great deal about their conviction rate, and isn't going to risk lowering it to grind a political axe, at least not the professional ones.

So your highest aspiration is to piss off liberals? Not to improve the lives of working people, or to leave the planet better for future generations than we received it?

Your standard for choosing a president is really based on how many people he can piss off? How many children he can rip from the arms of their parents and put in cages? Why not base it on how many brown people or Jews he can exterminate in death camps? There is an actual American Nazi party, perhaps you'd like them even more than Trump.

Reminds me of the Office episode when Michael was going to base who would replace him as manager on who could eat the most hot dogs.

Obama ran on Hope, and Trump ran on bigotry. Hope isn't macho, but maybe macho is overrated.

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My highest asperation is to not have to make a distinction between a liberal and a conservative.

I see it happen on both sides, you can act like you guys didn't burn down your city when Trump was President -- and you can act like you're some kind of centrist! But the bottom line is everyone is human, and liberals are no morally superior to conservatives.

I'm really not sure what the hell is going on, but it doesn't look good for Trump or Biden (if Trump gets back in there)...

Is this payback for Hillary when she got radied by the FBI? I don't know, but it's insane to watch because it shows what an out of control party will do remain in power! Do the ends justify the means? Is Trump any worse than the people who are out to get him? If you're going to save us from Trump, who is going to save us from you?

I am not angry, nor am I afraid... any aggression you sense is only with that fact that most people don't have the means and resources as Trump to fight this off, and normal people like you and I would just be mowed down with no publicity. It's also doesn't look good that so many attempts to discrace and invalidate Trump thus far have turned out to be fabrications and failures. It has the appearance they are throwing everything but the kitchen sink at him. I know he can be a riotous dick at times -- but no more than you on occasion!

It doesn't pass the sniff test... boy cried wolf too many times, and maybe he is dirty? But now I have a hard time believing you guys!



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It wasn't us guys that unloaded a truckload government owned documents at Mar a Lago for which there is no shortage of photos that you can see with your own eyes.

It wasn't us guys who called the Georgia Secretary of State and told him to "Find 11000 votes" that was Trump, and you can hear it with your own ears.

It wasn't us guys who dropped trumps own lawyer in to the crowd on Jan 6th, that you can see with your own eyes (that footage came from right wing media btw).

And once those are adjudicated, then perhaps Alvin Bragg can show you some evidence of how New York's campaign finance laws were violated, but it may take a while to get to that one.

He's innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt... I just wonder if any doubt that remains after seeing with your own eyes, and hearing with your own ears is "reasonable." That's up to the juries I guess.



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A truck load of documents? 30 some files, folders. Bidung had 1850 boxes in several locations. He did not have presidential powers, Trump did.

What you want to indict him next for? Tearing off a mattress tag in 1963? He incited the shootout at OK corral?

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Photos from Trump indictment show boxes of classified documents stored in  Mar-a-Lago shower, ballroom | PBS NewsHour

Trump indictment: Former president kept classified docs in Mar-a-Lago  bathroom, ballroom

Biden doesn't own a stage or have special chandeliers for his toilets, that's your boy.



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30 some files. That pic could be from anywhere. AND he had a right to any he wished. 



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PowerStroker wrote:

It wasn't us guys that unloaded a truckload government owned documents at Mar a Lago for which there is no shortage of photos that you can see with your own eyes.

It wasn't us guys who called the Georgia Secretary of State and told him to "Find 11000 votes" that was Trump, and you can hear it with your own ears.

It wasn't us guys who dropped trumps own lawyer in to the crowd on Jan 6th, that you can see with your own eyes (that footage came from right wing media btw).

And once those are adjudicated, then perhaps Alvin Bragg can show you some evidence of how New York's campaign finance laws were violated, but it may take a while to get to that one.

He's innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt... I just wonder if any doubt that remains after seeing with your own eyes, and hearing with your own ears is "reasonable." That's up to the juries I guess.




 Do you actually believe that a political party who has no problem arresting their top political opponent and his lawyers would have any problem cheating in an election?



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He wasn't arrested by a political party, or by the direction of a political party and I would challenge you to provide proof otherwise. He has been charged by the non partisan Department of Justice, and by 2 state prosecutors, all upon having been indicted by randomly chosen grand juries. We have had a lot of prior Republican presidents and never arrested them. Maybe there's something actually criminal about Trump?

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I think where your partisan DOJ and State prosecutors messed up was when they also decided to arrest Trumps attorneys at the same time... 

Nothing you're going to say will remove the partisan stench from this mockery of Justice... Unfortunately it has reached a level to where people like Soros, Obama and many other dirty Democrats (including yourself) have simply gone too far. 

I understand this condition you have prevents you from seeing it, but most Americans are shocked at the partisanship on display at such high levels of the Government. It's gone beyond anything we have ever seen before... I mean, Rudy Giulianii? What are you guys trying to do? Get this poor old guy in a corner so you can haul George Bush and every other Republican in front of a partisan Jury? Had I not seen this level of partisanship on disply with my own eyes, I might be blind like you are right now... I hope you enjoy this trial, as it will be televised! Only this isn't going to be some boring Oliver North trial -- this sh!t has the potential to rattle the entire Judicial system down to its very core, and I worry it will lead to a civil war in this country! The way I see it -- ALL Presidents have blood on their hands... You can't be a President and run a country like the USA without being pulled into a dark area that has many no-win decisions!

Eventually word will spread that the successful prosecution of Trump and his attorneys is just a pre-cursor to the government rounding up and jailing everyone who voted for Trump! I mean why not? They are already rounding up his entire legal team and inner circle -- why stop there? It explains why Democrats want to dis-arm America... I didn't see it at first, but more and more this current administration is looking more and more like an Obama administration every single day! The big hand-tip was in Democrats once again paying Iran for hostages...

I won't even get into the double standard that Hunter is adding to this equation -- but I will say that more Republicans have crossed the isle in the interest of preserving the sanctity of the office than Democrats! This should not be seen as an act of weakness in the party, rather a last ditch effort to save our entire system of Government... but now the wagons are going to have to be circled, because clearly Democrats no longer care about the optics of their actions anymore. It's really sad.

 



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Oh, and BTW... in response to your Mar-a-Lago bathroom and ballroom photo

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Optics are VERY important PowerStroker...



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The difference between the Trump classified documents, and the Biden & Pence classified documents is intent. Biden and Pence had a few mixed in with other crap, and as soon

as they discovered them, they reported it and returned them to the National archives. Then they fully cooperated with the investigation and allowed agents

to do a thorough search to make sure there weren't any more. This was not at all the Trump situation.


Did you not witness the events of January 6th? Did you not see democracy itself under attack? Everyone involved needs to be prosecuted, not for partisan reasons,

but for deterrent ones to keep either side from ever waging such an attack again. This was the Kennedy assassination of our generation.

You're circling your wagons around the wrong people my friend.



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Are you guys crying wolf again PowerStroker?

You always seem to have creative excuses when it comes to Democrats breaking the law... It was an accident seems to be all the justification any Democrat needs whenever they fracture the occasional law... Meanwhile, someone finds out Trump ripped the tag off a matress back in 1969 and they convene a Grand Jury in a liberal state! Give me a break dude!

I told you PowerStroker! J6 happend because a lot of Americans were not happy about the thoroughness of the election tampering investigations! Had the SCOTUS just taken up the case promptly (appeals) then I don't think J6 would have ever happend and I think Trump could have been talked down from the ledge... even still -- Trump did not lead a march into the capital! He asked everyone to remain peaceful! IT WAS ON TV AND ALL OVER THE INTERNET! Where were you? And if the SOCTUS had taken up ANY one of the appeals -- Trump would have won and YOU KNOW IT! Then YOU GUYS would have marched on J6! Don't say it isn't true because you guys were burning down cities across the nation with your race bating and Soros paid goons!

I don't think anyone needs to worry about J6 ever happening again -- because the next protest is going to turn into civil war, and if you don't think EVERY REPUBLICAN is looking at whats happening to Trump as a clear message that once they get finished with him, they will come after everyone else -- then you don't read the history books pal! This is why a RESPONSIBLE Government would NEVER let some BULLSHIT like this happen! To convict Trump would be a stigma on every red blooded American who voted for him! They aren't just going after Trump! They are trying to hem up his lawyer and everyone close to him in a position to help him defend himself! What idiot in your party thought it was a good idea to drag Rudy into this? The guy is a national hero who is just doing his part as a private citizen in his career! They have already flipped many of Trumps lawyers -- Mike Cohen to name another! If THE LAW IS THE LAW -- then damn it the attorneys should have to die on that cross defending their client come hell or high water until they are excused, and even then the attorney client privilege needs to be much more respected! What we are seeing is an absolute erosion of the Judiciary and Cannons / Oaths that govern it! You guys look like a monkey fucking a football out there with this! It outlandish! They might as well fire up MAD TV again!

I have no choice but circle the wagons around Trump! I voted for him! He was your President for FOUR years PowerStroker! He didn't get us into any wars and took out some bad hombres! For gawds sake he carried the nuclear football! I don't want to hear any more of this nonsense from you! You know you're wrong! Go cry wolf with Rastus on vacation! 



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The reason so many were unhappy about the tampering investigations is because of false statements in court made by attorneys.

Attorneys are not allowed to participate in crimes, or knowingly make false statements in court. That is why so many are in trouble.

 

If Trump gets convicted, that isn't the stain on those who voted for him, their vote is.



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I don't think these issues are exclusive to either party PowerStroker! Lots of people in Detroit voted for Kwame Kilpatrick -- just like lots of people voted for "this thing is fucking golden" Rod Blagojevich... BOTH DEMOCRATS mind you, with the latter having been pardoned by Trump!

Do you really think you guys are doing anything but thrusting voters into the arms of Trump with this stunt? I can see a Mayor, or a Governor -- or even a Secretary of the State who just happens to be married to an ex-Presidnt! But to actually pull this sh!t on an ex-President? I don't know dude... Teflon Don is eating up this attention! Liberals all across the country staying up waiting to see Trump do the perp-walk in Georgia... most people think he is guilty just because he's been indicted, because that is just how it usually works... the whole "I faught the law and the law won" only seems to apply to good 'ole boys! 

But keep this in mind PowerStroker... when is the last time you seen a big celebrity actor not be able to hang a Jury? OJ, Depp, and even Baldwin who blew someones fu@king head off! You don't think Trump's legal team isn't gonna pull an "If the glove don't fit you must aquit" maneuver? I'd be SHOCKED if you guys get a single charge to stick! And even if you do the next Republican President will pardon him and use your own playbook to put one of your ex-Presidents on trial. You think I'm joking! But I'm not! 

You seem to forget... Trump won the election in 2015 because people got fed up with Obama and the Democrats! 2008 was a bitch for many! Take a look around -- strikes, market wobbling, war, China in trouble, and winter is coming! It's the economy, stupid!

And let's be honest, Biden is getting up there in age... his high profile as POTUS makes it much harder to hide this fact. Do you really think Kamala Harris is going to carry the votes needed if the economy slumps and Biden starts showing clear signs of declining mental health? I wouldn't be shocked if it didn't come to pass that he uses such a defense if he were to ever be put on trail like Trump... THEN WHAT?

 



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Nothing about this is a stunt, and if a Democrat attacked democracy or willfully and knowingly stole classified documents after leaving office I'd be calling for his or her head too.

Fortunately, it's highly unlikely that such a person would ever advance very far in Democratic politics.

Unlike you I don't instinctively circle the wagons around someone in my party just because I may like their politics.



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That is exactly what you do every single time you reply in here PowerStroker! It's almost as if a Democrat can do no wrong in your eyes! For example the classified documents farce, look how you were so easy to dismiss the exact same issues with Biden! It's like, oh it was just an accident and he gave them back... this level of hypocrisy is just bad comedy at this point! And I won't even get into the Hunter allegations, but it looks no better on Biden than it does on Trump... or any other ex President for that matter!

It's not enough to suggest keeping classified documents is okay for Democrats, and high crime for Republicans but now you're suggesting that Bill Clinton didn't have his own little "impeachment" ordeal? How far did Monica Lewinsky advance in politics? All the way to the desk of the POTUS! albiet under the desk... but hey, anything to get a-head -- right? Whatever took the focus off everything else -- right? Such people in your party are what they call "fall guys"... 

Trump is in the biggest fight of his life right now! He is going to stand trial for partisan trumped up charges in liberal courts... Of course I am going to extend him the courtesy of being INNOCENT until proven guilty! Especially considering all the lies and failed attempts to hem him up during his Presidency... 

I didn't watch the debates last night, but I did watch Trump on Twitter! He seems quite calm and collected for a guy who will be doing the perp walk today. I'm sure it will be all over the internet before dinner. 



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I've said many times that Blago was a fuck head. I've also expressed my disappointment about John Edwards. I've also said Hunter should receive no special treatment.

Joe Biden said he would not pardon his son if convicted, nor should he. And I've explained that in the documents cases with both Biden and Pence, there does not appear to be

any intent - which you know is required to charge with a crime. Had Biden purposefully taken documents and refused to return them after being notified by the

National Archives that he still had possession of them, then I would be calling for his prosecution too. You're comparing apples and oranges.

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And just like that you're convicting Trump... That is what we have trials for PowerStroker!

Turning in papers AFTER the raid on Trump for the same thing?

Yeah...okay.

And don't think I didn't get the whole comparing apples to oranges line...



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No, I'm not convicting him of anything, that's up to a jury of his peers whether the prosecution meets the burden of proof or not.

When corruption rears its ugly head in my party, which does happen at times, I instinctively want it purged. You however seem to circle the wagons around it.

Blind tribalism is not a recipe for good governance, but different strokes for different folks I guess.



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When I supported Trump with donations back when he was POTUS some credit card companies would cut my credit lines whenever I gave him a donation! Citi was the WORST! I've got PROOF too, and I posted it in here back when it happend!

Not only that, I have been banned from numerous left wing web forums for nothing more than refusing to drink their cool-aid! Twitter being one of them!

Now when I see what is happening to not only Trump, but many other people who were just doing their job it makes me PISSED! 

I really don't care how ignorant and dumb you want to act PowerStroker! You know damn well what I am talking about! The fact you're willing to dismiss everything Democrats do, but be quick to judge Republicans for the SAME THING makes you a political HACK!

Getting tired of seeing all this money pour into Ukraine! When Trump was POTUS Ukraine was actually going to bring Hunter up on charges for all the kickbacks he was getting! Are you going to act like you forgot about that?

And this is just Ukraine! There are many-many other stories like this coming out of China and other nations! 

Between Obama giving Iran billions, and all these back room deals with Joe and Hunter -- making millions off their public office jobs with their pay-to-play schemes it really makes me wonder how you could act so ignorant all the time... but you are a jackass, aren't you?

A lot of this stuff was water under the bridge! But if you guys think you're going to prosecute Trump on these bullshit trumped up charges and get away with it -- YOU'RE WRONG! 

If I have to be made look bad because you guys cheated on an election and you're going to prosecute Trump for simpily challenging an election -- then damn it, that favor should be returned to Democrats in SPADES! This is bullshit!

If Biden and the Democrats can't beat Trump without cheating (elections and now election interference) then I don't see this ending well!

You can act as dumb as you like, and for awhile I went along with it! But this attack on Trump is an attack on every red-blooded American who voted for him -- PLAIN AND SIMPLE! Your people made a GRAVE mistake, and trying to take down an entire political party with a RICO act in Gerorgia isn't going to work! Congress is already ALL OVER that overreaching GA Prosecutor like white on rice! They are probing her now and may be hauling her ass in front of congress to answer for HER crimes! You forget, the feds can march in there and arrest that Prosecutor the minute they have what they need! 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jim-jordan-launches-probe-georgias-fani-willis-ahead/story?id=102532160

If you read that article they are trying to link state and federal officials to these crimes -- you know, the REAL RICO scheme! All of these no-name people looking for their 5 miuntes of fame are going to get it! They are your "fall-guys/gals"...

You talk a good game about "wanting to purge" the corruption from your party -- but from where I'm standing you're just as guilty as the rest of them! 

Biden already knows he's dirty and he's been working on his act to plead incompetent to stand trial every since he was running for office in 2020!

It's like I said... this isn't going to end well! FOR ANYONE! You guys fucked up -- BIG TIME!

 



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Not only that, I have been banned from numerous left wing web forums for nothing more than refusing to drink their cool-aid! Twitter being one of them!

I saw what you posted on Twitter, don't tell me that didn't violate their policies.

Now when I see what is happening to not only Trump, but many other people who were just doing their job it makes me PISSED! 

It is not the job of an administration to violently try overturning an election they lost.

Getting tired of seeing all this money pour into Ukraine! When Trump was POTUS Ukraine was actually going to bring Hunter up on charges for all the kickbacks he was getting! Are you going to act like you forgot about that?

No they weren't, Trump tried pressuring them into prosecuting the Bidens, and he was impeached for it.

Between Obama giving Iran billions, and all these back room deals with Joe and Hunter -- making millions off their public office jobs with their pay-to-play schemes it really makes me wonder how you could act so ignorant all the time... but you are a jackass, aren't you?

Obama returned Iranian money pursuant to a court order, we've been through this. It wasn't taxpayer money, it was Iranian money Even Nuffan understood that.

A lot of this stuff was water under the bridge! But if you guys think you're going to prosecute Trump on these bullshit trumped up charges and get away with it -- YOU'RE WRONG! 

His mob used political violence, and one of his own lawyers was in the crowd. His own voice was recorded asking to "find" enough votes, these aren't fake charges.

If I have to be made look bad because you guys cheated on an election and you're going to prosecute Trump for simpily challenging an election -- then damn it, that favor should be returned to Democrats in SPADES! This is bullshit!

The thing is, you don't have to look bad. Like me you could seek to purge corruption from your party, but you choose to circle the wagons around it.

If Biden and the Democrats can't beat Trump without cheating (elections and now election interference) then I don't see this ending well!

Biden did beat Trump without cheating, by a lot.

You can act as dumb as you like, and for awhile I went along with it! But this attack on Trump is an attack on every red-blooded American who voted for him

My blood is red too, and I have voted for disappointments like George W the first time, I don't take his failures to be a stain on me because I learn from it.

 

Biden already knows he's dirty and he's been working on his act to plead incompetent to stand trial every since he was running for office in 2020!

On what charge?

It's like I said... this isn't going to end well! FOR ANYONE! You guys fucked up -- BIG TIME!

It would be a big time fuck up not to prosecute this behavior, because then it just becomes a dress rehearsal for next time.

 


 



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Really? What did I post on Twitter PowerStroker? I'm on Twitter now and don't have the same problems back when it was being run by a libtard... well, I'm sure that my post are being throttled / shadow banned -- but anyone looking for my stuff can at least still find it! I might not get as much of an audience as I should (I paid for the Twitter Blue - Now X Premium).

Pretty much your responses have gaslit everything that I have said above... why even argue with you about them? Honestly!

Trump asking for someone to find votes is a lot like a bank or collections agency telling you to find the money when your payment is late!

You don't have time to show up for court? Well you better FIND the time, or we will help you! So I really don't want to hear your double standards that only apply with negative consequences for Republicans.

If you can't agree that this is out of control -- an entire Administration being brought up on RICO charges by some rouge state prosecutor, then I can only guess you must wear and fart thru silk panties!

With regards to Iran, we didn't owe them sh!t! It wasn't Obama's cross to bear since he wasn't involved when it happend originally! Therefore it should have been left to the attorneys who were litigating it! And yet you totally dismiss that such an agreement was made under duresss with the US Servicemen and Women who were taken HOSTAGE! This is why I say it's pointless to argue with you -- you're a hack...

Most of the corruption seems to come from your party PowerStroker! If it doesn't fit your narrative then it must be racist! Everyone knows that! 

I happen to think George W did a great job for the plate he was handed! I'm sorry you feel otherwise, perhaps he should have just gave Iran a few billion in cash -- in the dark of night by airplane like your boy Obama... and now Biden? Has Biden already paid out on that deal PowerStroker? You probably wont even address this... but there it is!

Trump didn't have a mob! He had supporters! You calling Trump supporters a "mob" just further reinstates my point about why the wagons need to be circled around Trump! 

You keep saying your DOJ isn't corrupt -- but did you know they recently went after Space X for refusing to hire undocumented illegal alliens? Can you believe that? Maybe you should look into it!

On what charge? Well that's not my job or place to dictate these things... I guess if I wanted to throw sh!t at the wall and see's what sticks I could go off half-cocked like that prosecutor in GA... I think they have made a connection with staffers from Biden's Admistation to the DA in GA having meetings right before the indictment. If it's true, then it looks like election interference. 



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To answer your question about what you got in trouble for on Twitter, it appears to be repeated hateful conduct.

Regarding the Georgia RICO indictments, well, the grand juries seem to think the charges are legitimate. I suppose the suspects could ask the judge for a pretrial evidentiary hearing to

see if enough evidence exists, and ask for dismissal if there isn't, you know, for second opinion on the matter.

I wonder why they haven't done that? Could it be that they know more than enough evidence exists, and they'd prefer to keep it out of the public domain?

Don't they know there's "red blooded Americans" who don't care about the law or even democracy, and will support them no matter what they did?

Perhaps the blood of some is too red, and that's why they get banned from things like Twitter. And for some perhaps, potentially banned from freedom itself?

 



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I just think it's funny you don't find any issue with someone sitting for the national anthem -- that somehow their rude gesture should be tolerated, yet my natural reaction to it is somehow any worse?

That is just bullsh!t if you ask me PowerStroker! 

 

When I ribbed Elon Musk about selling DOGE at .72 cents before it cratered -- there was nothing wrong with that! At the time I made the Twitter post Elon was not even the owner...

apparently you have never read any of Elon's Tweets if you think mine is bad. I seem to have a love hate relationship with Elon Musk and I think it's healthy... What is unhealthy

is this relationship we have PowerStroker -- you remind me of Eden! I think she is a Democrat too! You guys seem to have a really high opinion of yourselves that people only exist to

entertain them, you're just not as shy. You don't feel I had a right to rib Elon after dumping my load of DOGE and making a handsome profit before it tanked?

 

 

And with regards to that final email to Twitter, of course I was angry! They had locked my account! It was purely partisan thing too! Twitter also locked President Trumps Twitter account!

That's just crazy, even in the aftermath of J6 -- which Trump had nothing to do with and wasn't even there!

 

This hateful conduct you speak of only seems to apply to Republicans! It's okay for Beyonce to post photos of her hateful conduct (disrespectful) but it's not okay for me to call her out on it?

That's real interesting, I think they have a name for that! It's called bigotry!

I wonder if this Grand Jury pool wasn't selected from the straight Democrat voting rolls... you know they have access to that stuff, we don't... but they do! 

From what I understand they are indeed asking for a dismissal today and tomorrow... congress is also looking into this as well.

 

I should also mention, AGAIN, that I'm not banned from Twitter... Elon bought them out and fired all them liberal hacks! It's proof that people with your mentality are the problem, it proves that

your thinking is the real danger we face as you're unable to put politics aside and think it's okay for people (read that as conservatives and Republicans) to be banned -- or brought up on bogus charges

so that you can influence an election, or even better yet -- prevent someone you don't like from running for President. That is what this proves!

 

Oh, and thanks for stretching the page Big Randy! LOL, you won't get the reffrence but it's my name for people who post massive photos. 

 

 



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Sorry for stretching out the page, it's just that there were SO many stolen documents it's hard to really see them all in a smaller picture.

Have you tried calling anyone a faggot on twitter now since the ownership change? A real experiment on the topic would involve

trying the exact same thing with the new ownership to see if the results are any different.

By "Congress looking into this" you mean Jim Jordan running interference again right? I have a feeling his blood may be a little bit 

too red to be objective in these matters, but whatever he wants to do I guess.

 



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Yes, actually I called Tim Cook a faggot under the new ownership when I was very upset after spending a lot of money upgrading phones and being unhappy with some features...

A week later Apple fixed the issue, so I deleted it on my own accord. So now what? I should also mention that I have called Elon a reatard on many occaisions in disagreement with 

various things he has proposed or said under his ownership -- and gues what? He took it like a man and I was not punished for my opinions.

Should we conclude that Democrats are unable to handle any possition of authority without trampling peoples rights? YES-YES! This is exactly what it PROVES!

 

I also find it very bad form that you would suggest Jim Jordan is "too red blooded" to be objective knowing your party cheated an election and is now trying to prosecute Trump for

calling you out on it. These little games you guys play, you think they are cute... trying to act bi-partisan, lying, cheating and stealing. It's all fun and games until your bluff gets called.

That is when you guys start trying to play the victim card... race, sex, wealth -- you name it and you guys will pervert it.

It's like I said PowerStroker, the Democrats just take things too far and end up losing their support! Take for example this big Democrat push to let children change their sexual orientation!

That's just insane! That's more insane than when you guys were trying to let men use the womens restrooms at the end of Obama's term! That is how I know you're going to lose in 2024.



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I should also mention that timing is everything! It's no coincidence Democrats waited until when they did to bring Trump up on charges.

The court dates that Trump has to hop thru at critical times of the 2024 campaign season are not coincidence...

People can see that CLEARLY! And while early on in Biden's administration I thought perhaps we could all be wrong about Democrats cheating in the election

Yet what I am seeing now only re-enforces what everybody already knew back then -- YOU GUYS CHEATED, got away with it -- and are trying to do it again!

If you can't see it's the Democrats looking like the real monsters here -- then perhaps you are rabid with the same sickness? 

Maybe you should talk to your therapist about that PowerStroker? Maybe he can give you some more meds to go with the regimen you're already on.



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How did Democrats cheat in the election exactly? If you're talking about expanding mail in voting, some states like Oregon have been almost entirely mail in for a very long time. As long as whatever policies are applied equally statewide, it's not cheating.

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Had it not been for COVID and many of the "rush" ballot rules, along with the highly irregular distancing recommendations -- and just basically COVID in general then I might feel differently.

I'm not sure what this trial is going to unfold, all I know is thru discovery I'm pretty sure this is going to be ugly... At what point does the Judge revoke Trumps bail for "saying mean things" and this whole situation turns into something of --- hell I don't know what!

I'm all for Justice! But this is just plain embarrassing for the whole country, regardless what party you belong! Okay, it's even worse if you're Republican -- but I can only assume the under-dog in all this will be Trump... 

Biden is getting old, and I'm not very confident in Harris! But they will be the ones running for 2024...

I just have to feel like anyone involved in politics being brought up on RICO charges for something as silly as this, a whole entire administration -- well dude... I don't see how it could be any more divisive! This is a powder keg case... the entire world is watching. 



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